Re: [lace] Rage
We need a gallery, dear Ilske, to show contemporary, original art work done in lace techniques, and possibly for sale, just like other art. You see how this differs from our webshots site. More about this later. -- Aurelia Hello Aurelia and everybody, It seems as if I missed something or I didn't understand. Why do we need a new place showing our works? We have the Arachne-webshot-album which is open for all Arachne-members where we can show our works and some of us still do? Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rage
Hello Aurelia and everybody, It seems as if I missed something or I didn't understand. Why do we need a new place showing our works? We have the Arachne-webshot-album which is open for all Arachne-members where we can show our works and some of us still do? Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rage
On Jul 30, 2007, at 15:17, Aurelia Loveman wrote: Dear Clay -- Did you copy your thought about Gallery Director to Devon? And did you get Tamara's L-O-N-G e-mail (about how she hasn't got the fire or the ego!)? Funny... I have a little feature which tells me how large each message (sent or received) is, and my L-O-N-G one clocked in at 3KB. While yours (the one I'm responding to) took up 8.3KB of e-space. Probably because I didn't append the entire trail (4 messages) to mine and only used relevant quotes, which is what we're supposed to do. It seems that length, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rage
Dear Clay -- Did you copy your thought about Gallery Director to Devon? And did you get Tamara's L-O-N-G e-mail (about how she hasn't got the fire or the ego!)? Nothing like having cold water thrown over a new baby. However, I imagine that happens routinely with the emergence of a new idea. We would have to inquire (from the Arachne owner?) how she would feel about having a gallery subsidiary? She might quite possibly not agree. In which case, a small group of those of us interested in the idea might set up our own gallery website. That would give us, of course, more freedom to select items to show. Although, there doesn't seem to be any problem on either the IOLI or the CRLG sites about showing work. Evidently anyone who wants to can submit a piece, as long as they are IOLI/CRLG members. In our case, the defining issue might be: is the piece an original design?(we are back to our discussion of what is "modern," what is "contemporary"). Arachnes, keep the e-mails coming. They are interesting! Dear Aurelia - By Charter Members, do you mean a group which makes decisions about which artists/works to display? I think we can tap the incredible collective mind of Arachne for "nominees". We'd need to be clear about the qualifications we're looking for. (And... some variety in those qualifications is desirable - collectors, artists, teachers...). I'd like to defer the responsibility for Gallery Director to someone else - Devon, immediately comes to mind. She is such a scholar in the field, and is respected by so many lacemakers around the world... I think her oversight would immediately take the project from "just another website" to something important. In order to convince her to serve, we'd have to offer lots of support! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Clay -- Just got your e-mail. I like as little structure as one can possibly get by with. But a little bit is needed. I propose that we plan on an e-gallery that will open on January 1, 2008. That will give us five months in which to: (1) settle on a name; (2) write up a founding statement; (3) assemble ten charter members; (4) collect proposed show items; (5) find a webmistress. No doubt I have left out a hundred things still. As to item (3): are there legalities to this that I don't realize? And do you feel up to being gallery director? I would anticipate that when we have got our opening prospects in order, and a list of our participating artists by name, we would send an opening anno uncement to art museums around the country (as, Dallas Contemporary Art Museum; Philadelphia Institute of Contemporary Art; Seattle Art Museum --- there are dozens of art museum web sites). As to your other thoughts: A) No, I think any distinction between modern and contemporary is going to vanish increasingly as we talk about it, and we will find ourselves more concerned with such lace attributes as transparency and delicacy (we will have problems here); B) Yes, we can. That brings us to my item 3 up above: will our charter members be judges, or contributing artists, or both? >My first suggestion is that our eagle-eyed Miss Aurelia be >chairperson of the vetting committee!! I like your criteria, Miss >A!! (I think that "ugly or clumsy" and "lace" do not belong in the >same sentence - not to mention the same show!!) > >And my other observations are... A) Does it "matter", at this >point, what the distinction is between modern and contemporary? ... >that point can be refined as our "show" evolves... and B) We can >begin to assemble our "gallery" before we find our web-master. and >C) To truly appreciate modern OR contemporary, it would be nice to >have some elegant examples of old laces (made by modern lacemakers), >as a way of educating the rest of the world who may have no idea at > >all what old lace looks like - beyond what they see at the local >craft store. (shudder...) ... And while I'm on a roll, those >gifted artists who represent the "brightest and the best" may find >that more exposure means more demand for their designs... thus >prompting more designs. Hm... 21st Century patronage!! >Well... Leonardo didn't get famous overnight either!! > >Clay >-- >Clay Blackwell >Lynchburg, VA USA > > -- Original message -- >From: Aurelia Loveman > >> My phrase "a rage for Binche" was not meant as a putdown. Not at all. >> My "prequel" to Devon said "Technique and Design," not "Technique OR >> Design." In fact I think (not an original thought) that it is >> constant refining and pushing of orthodox techniques that ultimately >> produces breakthroughs in ideas (design). Incidentally, and as an >> aside, I am waiting for some wire genius to exploit the memory >> feature of wire (thread hasn't got that talent), but that's what >> "virtuoso" performers
Re: [lace] Rage
My first suggestion is that our eagle-eyed Miss Aurelia be chairperson of the vetting committee!! I like your criteria, Miss A!! (I think that "ugly or clumsy" and "lace" do not belong in the same sentence - not to mention the same show!!) And my other observations are... A) Does it "matter", at this point, what the distinction is between modern and contemporary? ... that point can be refined as our "show" evolves... and B) We can begin to assemble our "gallery" before we find our web-master. and C) To truly appreciate modern OR contemporary, it would be nice to have some elegant examples of old laces (made by modern lacemakers), as a way of educating the rest of the world who may have no idea at all what old lace looks like - beyond what they see at the local craft store. (shudder...)... And while I'm on a roll, those gifted artists who represent the "brightest and the best" may find that more exposure means more demand for their designs... thus prompting more designs. Hm... 21st Century patronage!! Well... Leonardo didn't get famous overnight either!! Clay -- Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA USA -- Original message -- From: Aurelia Loveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My phrase "a rage for Binche" was not meant as a putdown. Not at all. > My "prequel" to Devon said "Technique and Design," not "Technique OR > Design." In fact I think (not an original thought) that it is > constant refining and pushing of orthodox techniques that ultimately > produces breakthroughs in ideas (design). Incidentally, and as an > aside, I am waiting for some wire genius to exploit the memory > feature of wire (thread hasn't got that talent), but that's what > "virtuoso" performers are all about. > > Well, now that dear Clay has taken a nutty little drift of thought > and made it respectable and desirable, what's our next step? How do > we begin to establish our gallery? And what is the distinction > between "modern" and "contemporary?" My only stipulation would be > that nothing ugly or clumsy be entered in our gallery. Let us not > forget that the fundamental nature of lace is __elegance. > > P.S. And yes, will I ever forget my wowed reaction when a Bulletin > came in, a year or two ago, with Janice Blair's "Mask" on it? Just my > idea of everything modern, contemporary, elegant and plain gorgeous. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Rage
My phrase "a rage for Binche" was not meant as a putdown. Not at all. My "prequel" to Devon said "Technique and Design," not "Technique OR Design." In fact I think (not an original thought) that it is constant refining and pushing of orthodox techniques that ultimately produces breakthroughs in ideas (design). Incidentally, and as an aside, I am waiting for some wire genius to exploit the memory feature of wire (thread hasn't got that talent), but that's what "virtuoso" performers are all about. Well, now that dear Clay has taken a nutty little drift of thought and made it respectable and desirable, what's our next step? How do we begin to establish our gallery? And what is the distinction between "modern" and "contemporary?" My only stipulation would be that nothing ugly or clumsy be entered in our gallery. Let us not forget that the fundamental nature of lace is __elegance. P.S. And yes, will I ever forget my wowed reaction when a Bulletin came in, a year or two ago, with Janice Blair's "Mask" on it? Just my idea of everything modern, contemporary, elegant and plain gorgeous. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
