Re: [lace] Re: BLacing with hair
Tamara and al spiders, I have'nt thought of not putting in the middle pin of a spider, I suppose because that was the way I was taught, but I have now tried it and find it looks much neater, thank you Tamara Sue Harvey Norfolk UK - Original Message - From: Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: [lace] Re: BLacing with hair On May 26, 2005, at 9:47, Mark, aka Tatman wrote: You don't need a pillow and bobbins to do bobbinlace LOL! No, you don't :) I used a halfstitch ground to weave the back of my niece's hair for prom this year. Kind of tiring on her part to lay there as we separated the strands, gelled them, and attached clothes pins to the ends to act as bobbins. [...] This is probably not a new idea, but thought I would share that. :) I BL-ed my oldest stepson's wife's hair (in rose/Flanders ground) one year, for a Christmas party. She's Chinese, has strong, thick, hair down to there (around her hips), and it seemed to be a natural thing to do :) I didn't gell it, and I used hair-clips to hold the strands, and I did it curtain style - 8 pairs, from the top of the head, made two roses on top of the lower hair, which was left loose. I got the inspiration from David Downunder (D. Collyer in OZ), when he wrote us a report of making lace with the parasitic vines climbing a tree in the courtyard of the hospital he was working in at the time. Anything you can do, I can do better sang Annie Oakley (aka T Duvall), and Kathy got her unique hairdo as a result :) The only thing my wife didn't let me do is stick a pin in her head so I could finish the second half of a spider I highly recommend working a bit with either Freehand Lace or else Milanese... You'd discover very soon that central pins aren't always necessary for spiders; in fact, they can be a nuisance, since - often - the threads bunch around the pin in a sort of nipple. Without the pin, the pairs settle down flat, and the whole spider looks much better. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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there was one girl in my class who knwe how to plait in 4... She was the most popular girl, showered with gifts and friendship :) If you were in her good graces, she'd take apart your schoolgirl two that Clay mentions, and re-do them her style... 30 yrs later, when I started making lace, I realised she was doing it too :) Very interesting your story. This reminds me of a girl in my daughters class, exactly 13 years ago. She was a portuguese gipsy. And so, her mother used to take her to school with a very long thick and black braid (much longer than her waist!). It was a four strand braid, adorned with flowers. Really astonishing. I asked this mother to teach me how to make it, because I only knew how to make the classical 3 strand braid. And she did show me. Starting to learn how to make braids in bobbin lace reminded me of this braid. But... it was not made the same way we make a braid: the twist of the two pairs (of hair strands) was made from the outside to the inside; then a cross of the two inner pairs. 13 years later, this girl (now about 18 yrs old), who doesn't dress in the gipsy fashion any more, has short hair. But, Tamara, I don't know if she makes bobbin lace! Possibly not! Many greetings to all Antje González, in Guadalajara, Spain http://es.geocities.com/antjeglezherrero/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: BLacing with hair
On May 28, 2005, at 11:06, Antje González wrote: Very interesting your story. This reminds me of a girl in my daughters class, exactly 13 years ago. She was a portuguese gipsy. And so, her mother used to take her to school with a very long thick and black braid (much longer than her waist!). It was a four strand braid, adorned with flowers. Really astonishing. I asked this mother to teach me how to make it, because I only knew how to make the classical 3 strand braid. And she did show me. Starting to learn how to make braids in bobbin lace reminded me of this braid. But... it was not made the same way we make a braid: the twist of the two pairs (of hair strands) was made from the outside to the inside; then a cross of the two inner pairs. That *is* interesting... If you twist both pairs from outside in (ie, you twist the rh pr, but cross the lh pr), then your center cross is likely to be off; it'll go - l to r - over two threads instead of one over, one under... I've tried to reproduce this on my practice pillow (which I use while writing to Arachne), but the thread is too fine (and the motions too new - I keep making mistakes g) to see what the result looks like. And, of course, I have no idea *how* my little school-friend moved the 4 strands... When she did it on other heads, I paid no attention (I had been told, repeatedly, to stay away from all manual labour; I was expected to stick to mental exercises g); when she did it on my own head, I couldn't see what the results were (I didn't develop eyes in the back of my head until I started teaching g)... I know my friend was not a Gypsy; there was not a single Gypsy in our school, though there seemed to be many in the streets and parks... -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: BLacing with hair
Actually my wife went to beautician school and one of her achievements was to weave a hat made directly from the hair on the mannequin's head. Altho it wasn't done in the BL technique G But probably similar half stitch ground if I remember the way she described it. Was a popular 70s/80s hair weave trend. We got the idea from a pic from a hairdressing website(sorry, don't recall which one) and the back of the head was woven like that, which sparked the idea. Except in the original photo the hairdresser twisted the hair before weaving and we wanted the strands gelled and flat to look more like a basket weave. Unfortunately we don't have good photos of her hair completed. The humidity did a number on her curls as we were working with them and flopped all over. Didn't happen that way when we did a run thru/dress rehearsal on her hair a week before. Had to use the hair cement to tame those curls! So the weave on the back of the head kind of hid some :( A bit dissappointed, but was still fun to do ;) But oh the possibilities! Mark, aka Tatman www.tat-man.net This is great -- how much more personal can you get wearing lace. Your inspiration really sets the imagination going -- how about an all cloth stitch head with all of the weavers having beads hung on the ends over the ears and around the nape? Could it then be jeweled lace? I would love to see the finished effect -- especially right side up. Any photos? Diane Zierold Lubec, Maine - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: BLacing with hair
On May 26, 2005, at 9:47, Mark, aka Tatman wrote: You don't need a pillow and bobbins to do bobbinlace LOL! No, you don't :) I used a halfstitch ground to weave the back of my niece's hair for prom this year. Kind of tiring on her part to lay there as we separated the strands, gelled them, and attached clothes pins to the ends to act as bobbins. [...] This is probably not a new idea, but thought I would share that. :) I BL-ed my oldest stepson's wife's hair (in rose/Flanders ground) one year, for a Christmas party. She's Chinese, has strong, thick, hair down to there (around her hips), and it seemed to be a natural thing to do :) I didn't gell it, and I used hair-clips to hold the strands, and I did it curtain style - 8 pairs, from the top of the head, made two roses on top of the lower hair, which was left loose. I got the inspiration from David Downunder (D. Collyer in OZ), when he wrote us a report of making lace with the parasitic vines climbing a tree in the courtyard of the hospital he was working in at the time. Anything you can do, I can do better sang Annie Oakley (aka T Duvall), and Kathy got her unique hairdo as a result :) The only thing my wife didn't let me do is stick a pin in her head so I could finish the second half of a spider I highly recommend working a bit with either Freehand Lace or else Milanese... You'd discover very soon that central pins aren't always necessary for spiders; in fact, they can be a nuisance, since - often - the threads bunch around the pin in a sort of nipple. Without the pin, the pairs settle down flat, and the whole spider looks much better. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: BLacing with hair
On May 26, 2005, at 19:00, Clay Blackwell wrote: Since I had a hard time doing the schoolgirl two braids on my own daughter's head when she was young, I am more than impressed with the skill required for these hairstyles! When I was in primary school, most of us had long hair (or, as long as it would grow; mine never even reached the waist g); short hair signified lice problem and the order from authorities to cut, so the parents were much against short hair :) So, all of us were able to perform a 3-strand braid on ourselves, one each side of the head. Some were able to start with two braids - one each side of the head - then join them into one braid down the middle (very chic g). But there was one girl in my class who knwe how to plait in 4... She was the most popular girl, showered with gifts and friendship :) If you were in her good graces, she'd take apart your schoolgirl two that Clay mentions, and re-do them her style... 30 yrs later, when I started making lace, I realised she was doing it too :) -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
