Re: [lace] RE: Demonstrating

[Clay Blackwell]

You're a very clever girl, being able to "speak" lacemaking, knitting, 
binary...  Now you have me thinking...  What other "languages" can we discover?

Sent from my iPad

> Some people look a little quizzical if they don't knit, but when I mention
> binary, and that it's like computers - 1's and 0's.  Quite a few people then
> get a light bulb moment, as they understand that concept.
> 
> To some extent, it's about how lace is presented and people's perceptions.
> I know I've gotten into 'Mutual Admiration Societies' with other craftsmen
> and women at various demo's over the years :-)
> 
> 

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[lace] Re: Demonstrating, pillow cases and teaching (long)

[Leonard Bazar]

"Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:48:02 +
From: laceandbits 
Subject: Re: [lace] Freehand Lace with 6 pairs or less

"A large
fully-dressed  pillow with many bobbins and dense pattern is discouraging and
elicits the usual  "I don't have the patience!"."

Oh how I agree with Jeri on
this one.  And it can be a real act of diplomacy to try to tell potential
volunteers that their 'boasting' pillow with 200+ expensive bobbins and fine
Point Ground lace completely hidden by pins is not going to be an inspiration
to new lacemakers. On the contrary, it will frighten them away.  


One of the
best show pillows I have seen is Arachne Leonard Bazaar's.  From memory it is
a largish circular cloth (maybe a metre or so across, but I'm sure he'll let
us know), worked in a 5 pair braid lace, all cloth stitch (is that right?)
with minimal plated fillings, Bruges style.  I seem to remember the design is
made in thirds, and when i saw it last, at least one third was finished and
hung impressively at the front of the pillow.   The work in progress is so
basic that I have seen Leonard invite people to do some for him when there is
a queue for the have-a-go pillow.  They can immediately understand how this
simple stitch and braid can make a beautiful and even complex design.

Jacquie
in Lincolnshire"
 
Dear Jacquie
 
Many thanks for the kind commendation;
cannot of course miss the chance to elaborate!  The pillow to which Jacquie
refers appears at the annual Knitting and Stitching show at Alexandra Palace,
and is very much, I hope, the right horse for that course.  The visitors are
serious textile hobbyists, and also textile students and school parties, so
interested in a new craft, and also want to learn about lace on a technical
and practical level.  The pattern's from Anna, July 1993 (yes, I have been
working it for some time!) and the design is from Vogtland/Erzegebirge, though
Russians have assured me it's from there.  It's in 20/3 linen, ie young
string, and the tapes/braids use 6 or 7 pairs.  It's built up of a centre
30cm/12inches in diameter, and the centre can be surrounded by 4 trapezoids,
making a cloth of 70cm/28" in diameter (that's where I am now) and the outer 8
trapezoids bring it up to 120cm/48" - some time this millenium!  The
original's
 braids are half in cloth stitch, half in half stitch, with leaves in the
filling.  I am following the variant with cloth stitch braids, with a twisted
passive pair on one edge, and the filling is plaits.  This shows how even a
beginner can modify a pattern.  The bobbins are plain, made from broom handles
or similar, and the pillow a flat one about 2 foot/ 30 cm across, so no
visibility issues.
 
As Jacquie says, anyone can work a few rows, and we have
found the best way to teach, on a one-to-one basis, is to forget all about
whole stitch, half stitch, cross, twist, left, right, numbers above 2, and
simply say "all you do is move a bobbin over its neighbour; you have two
hands, each can hold a bobbin, so you can use two pairs at a time".  Then make
stitches, just saying "in the middle, other 2, in the middle - see they've
woven through - move them, and do the same with the next ones".  People pick
this up in a few minutes, and seem to have no problem copying, however young
or old; I suspect it's because they are using just the bits of the brains that
control the fingers, with none of this rational nonsense; rather like we can
"remember" numbers when tapping them out on a key pad, or when guitarists can
memorise music, even with chords, in a way other instrumentalists find harder;
I learnt the flute at school, and the guitar aged 40; I can play
 the flute much better, but memorise guitar music much more easily, even
though it's chords.
 
We can then say they've learnt the basics much quicker
than they learnt to knit, and point out how other laces are similarly
structured.  Having seen this tape, Honiton makes sense.  With the inevitable
questions about fine thread and time, we can then say that of course when
using thread finer than ordinary sewing thread it takes a  while to make
anything, but if you want to work that fine, it's the only way - you can't
knit it.  There's usually a scarf worked in thick wool on display, and we can
say making it took less time that knitting would.  This year's example was
mainly in torchon ground, so I could point out the rows of weaving, just as
done on my pillow but with twists, and they can see how little work,
relatively speaking, is involved in making a desirable object.
 
I take a
couple of the Terra books, and the one on Brugs Bloemwerk lets me shoe how
this sort of braid can be used to make striking collars and cloths, easily
designed and customised, and the one on Russische kant starts with various
braids and trims, suing colours, which can readily be used or adapted to
customise and trim a classy garment.
 
We hope our double-act helps students
etc understand lace, and be tempted to learn and use the techniques
creatively, and other 

[lace] Re: Demonstrating strategy - Gossip Pillows

[lacel...@frontier.com]

 From: "lacel...@frontier.com"

To: "lace@arachne.com"  
Sent:
Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Demonstrating strategy - Gossip
Pillows
 


We did this one year at county fair -- the four-sided try-me
pillow.  We found out that it took at least one person full time to supervise
the pillow, and sometimes two people if all four work stations were in use.  A
zillion bobbins need to be wound in advance, or have another person just
winding all day.  You also have to think about the table/stand the pillow is
on.  It must be accessible on all sides.  Being prepared is important.  Don't
try to man a 4-pattern try-me pillow if you are doing a solo demo.

I suggest
the first time you try it, use just two work stations on the pillow, or
three.   And be prepared with extra wound bobbins.  Or have one bobbin of each
pair wound full so you only have to pull out some thread and re-wind the
second bobbin.  And have lots of
 beads for eyes.

If we use the snake
pattern, the person who finishes the end of the tail gets to keep it. 
Sometimes we use a fish pattern which is basically the head of the snake, with
only one bead for an eye, and leave the thread ends several inches long as a
tail when tied off.  We start the snake or fish to just past the eye(s) so
it's ready for working.  With the much smaller pattern, usually each person
finishes one and gets to take it.  There is more bobbin winding with the small
fish than with the snake, but it takes very little thread per bobbin.


Demos
can be a lot of fun.

Alice in Oregon  -- where it's still very cold.

 From: Jill Hawkins 
To: lace@arachne.com 
Cc: jeria...@aol.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013
8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Demonstrating strategy - Gossip Pillows
 

A
couple of years ago at a demonstration, one of the lace makers brought a 24"
cookie pillow for beginners to make a snake.  The enterprising lace maker had
put 4 prickings on the pillow (along each point of the compass: north, south,
east and west) and had 4 children work at the same time.  It was an extremely
good use of limited demonstration space and the children loved being able to
keep an eye on what the others were doing and who was working the fastest.
While this is not exactly a gossip pillow, it is a good strategy for
demonstrating - with adults as well as children.

Jill in Milton Keynes, Bucks
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[lace] Re: Demonstrating for the Diamond Jubilee

[Maureen Bromley]

Hi

I have just realised I did not give you the date, it is Monday 4th June.

Regards

Maureen Bromley



I am pleased to advise everyone that Wolds Lacemakers, which is based in 
the UK,  East Yorkshire/Lincolnshire  area,  will be demonstrating our 
lacemaking skills at Ferens Art Gallery, Hull from 12 noon to 4.p.m. as 
part of the Diamond Jubilee celebrations that are being organised by Hull 
City Council.  We aim to further promote lace and lacemaking within the 
area. We will also have on display a few photographs showing the lace 
jabot and cuffs which a few of us made, at her request,  for the current 
High Sheriff of Yorkshire.   If anyone wants any further information, 
please do not hesitate to contact me.


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[lace] Re: demonstrating

[Tatman]

On 10/26/11 3:39 PM, "TRENNA RUFFNER"  wrote:

> The funniest comment I ever received was from a young boy who dashed up
> and 
> said "What are you doing with the little baseball bats, lady?"

LOVE IT!  I got that exact comment(minus the "lady" part HAHA) from a boy
who approached me at my pillow.  I didn't have just any utilitarian bobbins.
I was using Bayeux bobbins that look even more like baseball bats.  It was a
good chuckle and gave me an excuse to strike up a good conversation with
him.

-- 
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[lace] Re demonstrating

[TRENNA RUFFNER]

I have a "demonstration" pillow that I only work on when in public. It has been 
in use for many years.  It has a simple but pretty torchon pattern and  it has 
several yards attached.  My bobbins are strictly utilitarian - noone is the 
least interested in stealing them.  I don't use my pretty and/or antique 
bobbins 
because I would rather folks looked at the lace.  I welcome onlookers to touch 
the lace - yes it will be a bit grubby when finally taken off for use. but it 
was meant to be washed in the first place if used as a trim on clothing.  My 
"show pieces" are all framed or in plastic sheet protectors so noone  can 
finger 
those .  The yardage seems to satisfy that impulse anyway. By demonstrating 
with 
a simple pattern, I can make the point that it really is not a hard craft to 
master, just as simple cross and twist - two movements like knitting. I found 
that  having a complex piece just put people off - sooo many bobbins!  With a 
simple piece I can assure them that with a bit of concentration and practise 
they could be doing the same thing in a couple of months.(Plus I don't have 
to to take out a lot of mistakes that always seem to happen when I am lacing 
and 
talking at the same time which would be discouraging on a complicated piece).  
And I have shown that it doesn't take a fortune to get into the craft   - 3 
dozen utilitarian bobbins, a home made pillow, and some thread and they would 
be 
in business.
The funniest comment I ever received was from a young boy who dashed up and 
said "What are you doing with the little baseball bats, lady?"
Trenna Ruffner
Michigan

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Re: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[robinlace]

 pene piip  wrote: 
After thinking about "Start With A Twist" I realized that Ulrike would not 
approve as this leaves a bigger hole.

But a number of lace traditions use the "open" method of TC instead of CT.  
They always "Start wtih a Twist" (well, except for CTC).

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Re: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[Sue Babbs]

Hi Jolene
Welcome to Arachne - and thanks for posting. Your suggestion re art schools 
is great, and I would also suggest that the textile and theatre costume 
departments of colleges and universities would also be interested in 
demonstrations.


Feel free to post questions / thoughts as they come up. Normally we just 
reply to  lace@arachne.com (for lace related topics) and only reply to the 
individual who has posted if we want to chat privately with them.


We also have Arachne-chat for non-lace related subjects, though that is much 
quieter than it used to be



Sue

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Re: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[jlynn1643]

Hello! My name is Jolene and I am 26 and brand new to lace making. I
recently went to the Fiber Arts Festival in Hemlock, NY where the Genesse
Country Lace Guild had a booth set up. They were demonstrating bobbin
lacemaking and that was the first time I had ever seen the process. I fell
in love immediately!! I attended my first guild meeting last month and I am
looking forward to my new adventure into the beautiful world of lace.

I would highly recommend live demonstrations because that is what worked for
me! I would also recommend demonstrating to your local art schools. There
are a lot of artists who would be excited to see this process. I know I
would have loved this while I was in school.

I also wanted to let everyone know that you all are doing such a great job
thinking of ways to inspire others to get into lacemaking. Even reading your
brainstorming e-mails have given me a lot of resources!! Thank you!!

P.S. This is my first time responding to these discussions and I hit the
"reply to all" button and I am not sure if this is the correct way to do it.
 Hopefully it works!




On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:33 AM, pene piip  wrote:

> After thinking about "Start With A Twist" I realized that Ulrike would not
> approve
> as this leaves a bigger hole.
>
> Maybe for demonstrating purposes "Stop, Watch And Try" would be better.
> Pene
>
>
> On 10/24/2011 11:12 PM, Tatman wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/11 4:58 AM, "pene piip"  wrote:
>>
>>  I really like the poster, Mark, but I wondered if "S.W.A.T." in lace
>>> terminology stands for "Started With A Twist"?
>>>
>> HAHAI was trying to think of what the acronym for SWAT would be in
>> lacemaking terms as I was working on the graphic.  I like your idea!
>>
>>
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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[pene piip]

After thinking about "Start With A Twist" I realized that Ulrike would 
not approve

as this leaves a bigger hole.

Maybe for demonstrating purposes "Stop, Watch And Try" would be better.
Pene

On 10/24/2011 11:12 PM, Tatman wrote:

On 10/24/11 4:58 AM, "pene piip"  wrote:


I really like the poster, Mark, but I wondered if "S.W.A.T." in lace
terminology stands for "Started With A Twist"?

HAHAI was trying to think of what the acronym for SWAT would be in
lacemaking terms as I was working on the graphic.  I like your idea!



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RE: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[Noelene Lafferty]

Sorry Pat, that song wasn't familiar to me, so I Googled it - found out it
was a 1982 number and when I played the UTube video, it didn't ring any
bells.

However, my old "Some People" poem (my favourite) can be sung to the tune of
"My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean"

Some people knit wool into blankets
Some crochet with treble and chain.
Some people cut lovely new fabric
Just to sew it together again.

Bring back, bring back, bring back my bobbins to me, to me.
Bring back, bring back, bring back my bobbins to me.

But me, I like to use bobbins
And weave patterns in thread without fear.
And if people should say it's so useless,
"So are peacocks and rainbows, my dear."

(Are you still on Arachne, Sulochola?)
(And for tatters, the word "bobbins" can be replaced by "shuttles")
Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

-Perhaps Noelene could write a poem to be sung to the tune of 'It started
-with a kiss' to go with the poster and the new wording!
Patricia in Wales

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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[Tatman]

On 10/24/11 4:58 AM, "pene piip"  wrote:

> I really like the poster, Mark, but I wondered if "S.W.A.T." in lace
> terminology stands for "Started With A Twist"?

HAHAI was trying to think of what the acronym for SWAT would be in
lacemaking terms as I was working on the graphic.  I like your idea!

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog: http://tat-man.net/blog
Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html
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Fwd: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[scotlace]

Perhaps Noelene could write a poem to be sung to the tune of 'It started with
a kiss' to go with the poster and the new wording!


Patricia in Wales
scotl...@aol.com



-Original Message-
From: pene piip 
To: tatman ; Arachne Arachne 
Sent: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 6:59
Subject: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)


I really like the poster, Mark, but I wondered if "S.W.A.T." in lace
terminology stands for "Started With A Twist"?

Pene in Tartu, Estonia

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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[pene piip]

I really like the poster, Mark, but I wondered if "S.W.A.T." in lace
terminology stands for "Started With A Twist"?

Pene in Tartu, Estonia

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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)

[robinlace]

That came out great, Mark!  Noelene is our poet laureate and you're our artist. 
 Is there a painting/drawing/graphics equivalent of poet laureate?

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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 Tatman  wrote: 
This just brought an interesting image in my head that I couldn't let go.
So I drew up a "LACE S.W.A.T. TEAM" logo for your enjoyment:

http://www.tat-man.net/LaceSWATTeam.jpg

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RE: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY

[mary carey]

I sat on the bottom of the stairs in a hotel one Friday afternoon while my
husband "discussed" the bill (booked from Airport, promised a discount).
I was tatting and gave a cross bookmark to a lady in red from Texas who had
been in New York for the US Open.  We went on a bus to Montreal that evening.

If we had gone on a bus to NY as originally planned (we flew from Chicargo),
we might have been there for the most famous Tuesday of recent times!

Mary Carey
Campbelltown, NSW, Australia

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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY

[Dmt11home]

I love it!
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2011 4:09:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tat...@tat-man.net writes:

http://www.tat-man.net/LaceSWATTeam.jpg

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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY

[Tatman]

On 10/21/11 9:09 AM, "dmt11h...@aol.com"  wrote:
> Perhaps we need a
> lace swat team, ready to drop in, like the fire jumpers, to difficult
> locations  in need of a lace demo.

This just brought an interesting image in my head that I couldn't let go.
So I drew up a "LACE S.W.A.T. TEAM" logo for your enjoyment:

http://www.tat-man.net/LaceSWATTeam.jpg

Good to put on t-shirts as an attention-getter as you repel/run/set yourself
on that spot ready to demo on a moment's notice. ;)
-- 
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[lace] Re: demonstrating lace

[hottleco]

Hello Again!  Thank you for your encouragement Jane!  I thought maybe I would 
follow up with some photos--but that would mean that I actually need to finish 
some pieces or at least make them into something more than an unrecognizable 
blob stuck with pins.  LOL  The thought of the bougainvillea will surely help!  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

 Jane Partridge  wrote: 
> Don't give up - enquire as to next year, or the year after - museums 
> often book schedules 18 months to three years in advance, so that they 
> can get their publicity material printed and distributed in time. Write 
> to them with your proposal, and suggest that you could arrange to call 
> in if they wished to discuss things further.

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Re: [lace] Re: Demonstrating

[Carol Adkinson]

Hi Tamara and the Spiders (Rock Band Members Again?)

I have followed this with interest - and even more over the Easter weekend!

I was asked by one of my neighbours, who is organising - with help - a
Country Fair Day in our village, if I would like to demonstrate my
lacemaking, along with the Have-a-Go pillow, and generally being smiley and
helpful.  Of course, I said yes - I have demonstrated in most of the local
villages, so thought I ought to do something in my own.

Imagine my face, if you can, when on Easter Saturday morning I received,
through the post, a slip of paper to be filled in with all the details of
tables, chairs, lighting etc., an address to return it to, with my *cheque
for thirty pounds* - I think they are asking lots of 'crafty' suppliers to
the Fair, and basing the charges on the fact that most people will be
selling.  Me - I only ever demonstrate, show people the Have-a-Go pillow,
and tell them how to do it - and them possibly give out flyers of the
classes.   I sent a letter saying this, and that I don't expect either to be
paid, or to pay, but would like to be a point of interest in the Fair - but
so far I haven't heard a word from Mark!   Do you think the thought
processes are extremely slow, or should I rub out the pencilled in adet in
the calendar?

Carol - back in Suffolk, UK, after several days in Norfolk, and a visit to
the Sheringham Lace Day.



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Subject: [lace] Re: Demonstrating/ American Frontier Museum


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[lace] Re: Demonstrating/ American Frontier Museum

[Clive and Betty Ann Rice]

I'm posting to lace to clarify some points to Tamara's posting.  I don't belong 
to chat.

Tamara wrote:
>To each her own moral values/philosophy :) I suspect that if all of us 
>adhered to your precepts, there'd be very little lace demonstrating 
>done. 

There is nothing wrong with my moral valules/philosophy. If I wanted the money, 
I'd just put on scrubs and do a couple of shifts of nursing. 
The people at the Frontier Museum, at the time, did not value lacemaking the 
same as they did the other demonstrators. The grant was for one purpose: for 
expenses of demonstrators.  I demonstrate and give talks to many private 
organizations and if I am offered a gratuity, I do not accept.  
I NEVER accept a stipend or gratuity from a non-profit organization, and I 
demonstrate for several of them. Recently I gave several needle-tatting lessons 
to 8 & 9 year olds in an after-school program at one of the inner-city schools. 
I also volunteer many many hours every month at the Veterans Hospital and at 
the Public TV station.  

> But I live closer to Staunton than you do (35 miles one way). And I don't 
> mind their making a buck off of me, >since they're doing a very good job of 
> showing what we need to see. 

Have at it.  They'll love to have you, I'm sure.  And if they have a grant for 
demonstrators, they can double the fee given to the other demonstrators.

>Reynolds Tobacco/Aluminum has so many millions of bucks, they can barely wait 
>to do something free for the >public, for a hefty tax write-off. *Quite* a 
>different story from non-profit museums (like the 
>American Frontier).

No, no, no.  Reynolds Homestead is owned by Virginia Polytechnic and State 
University, aka VPI, a Virginia supported school.

'nuff said, and I do love you, T -
Betty Ann

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[lace] Re: Demonstrating/ American Frontier Museum

[Tamara P Duvall]

On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:50, Betty Ann Rice wrote:
I have to chime in on the discussion re demonstrating lace.  I made a 
pact with my pocketbook many years ago  that when I was asked to 
demonstrate lacemaking at a venue where admission was charged, I 
requested a stipend to cover my travel expenses.
To each her own moral values/philosophy :) I suspect that if all of us 
adhered to your precepts, there'd be very little lace demonstrating 
done. More and more institutions which used to be "public" in the sense 
of "*free* to public" are now charging for access, because their piece 
of government pie is being pared way down. Last year, my (still 
"public" in the old sense of the word) library posted a list of 20 
magazines they'd have to cut unless they found individual sponsors. I 
expect to sponsor at least one subscription this year also, and hope 
that it'll never come to being a "private" lending library, with a fee 
for every book/day. Those cute cowboy boots have ben made for stomping, 
not for walking or riding...

I do know that some demonstrators were paid from that grant.  The 
blacksmith and cooper for example.  I was told that "they make a 
living doing that so they expect a salary."  What am I, cottage 
cheese?  No thank you.
OK, so that *is* unfair, if some people get reimbursed and others do 
not. But I live closer to Staunton than you do (35 miles one way). And 
I don't mind their making a buck off of me, since they're doing a very 
good job of showing what we need to see. And, in the long run, if the 
*lace* gets a peek as well as the rest, I don't care if I'm out of 
pocket over it.

However, the Reynolds Homestead (the home of the progentors of 
Reynolds Aluminum and R.J. Reynolds Tobacco) at Critz, Patrick Co. 
Virginia invites me twice a year to demonstrate in the parlor or on 
the porch - its my choice.  I travel 70 miles each way and do this 
willingly because they do not charge admission for their Spring Frolic 
and Open House.
Reynolds Tobacco/Aluminum has so many millions of bucks, they can 
barely wait to do something free for the public, for a hefty tax 
write-off. *Quite* a different story from non-profit museums (like the 
American Frontier).

Aaarrgh... Nevermind; that's not lace, that's politics :)
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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
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