Re: [lace] Re: no more dreams-just plans

2007-08-06 Thread Carol Adkinson

Hi All,

I find this a very interesting discussion - especially the 'if it's not 
Ugly, it's not art' bit! I am quite conservative in my lace - but I am 
beginning to enjoy including colour in items.   After choosing a pink gimp 
in one Flanders weekend class, which was shouted down by the tutor, and 
which I not-so-bravely changed to a white gimp, I had become very wary of 
inserting colour.But - I have a friend who is an absolute whizz at 
choosing colours which, at first sight, would appear completely incompatible 
but, when actually used, look fantastic.So - I do get better 


But - I am also one who, although liking the Brugges Bloemwerk patterns, 
feel that the lace looks much more to my taste - and I emphasise MY taste - 
if it is greatly reduced, and uses much, much finer threads.   Now - am I 
making Brugges Bloemwerk lace - which I suspect I am not! - can it be called 
contemporary, or is it just a bastardised lace? I do mainly use the 
Brugges techniques - but sometimes even there I may think some other 
technique fits better, and looks better - so when I display my work when 
demonstrating, what do I call it?


Over to you, friends!

Carol - in Suffolk UK - where we had our summer yesterday and Saturday, but 
today is very overcast and not nearly as bright.


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On Aug 5, 2007, at 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

if it's not ugly, it's not Art.

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[lace] Re: no more dreams-just plans

2007-08-05 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Aug 5, 2007, at 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At the time of the Radical Lace exhibit, I received private 
correspondence
that asked why anyone would think what was presented was really the 
beautiful

lace to which we are devoted.


Possibly because, as Devon said in one of her messages, (am 
paraphrasing, not quoting), the current trend of thought in the art 
world seems to be: if it's not ugly, it's not Art.


It's the Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale about ther Emperor's New 
Clothes revisited. Who'll have the nerve to say, out loud, this is 
ugly; the Emperor is naked about something that's considered worth 
displaying by museum curators of international renown?



The feeling was that we should not, as
lacemakers, feel we have to march to the Radical drummer's beat.
For
example,  many quilt shows draw audiences, without being radicalized.  
There are
artists who are quite capable of pushing ahead to new types of quilts 
without

changing their inherent character.


Absolutely. Of course, there are more people making quilts than there 
are making lace, so there's a bigger in-built audience as well as a 
wider field of innovators to draw from for exhibitions.


Peculiarly... I just googled the Museum of Arts  Design (where the 
Radical Lace and Subversive Knitting exhibition took place) and came 
accross it, listed on a website called NYC.com, which seems to be 
dedicated to arts in NYCity. In the Editorial Review of the museum, 
there's this little snippet, buried towards the end:


[While] reiterating fidelity to values such as conscientious 
workmanship, respect for materials, tools and techniques and the skills 
needed to transform materials into objects of use and beauty, [the 
world of craft has also addressed changing artistic, political and 
marketing realities]


Note, please, the phrase objects of use and beauty. In their pursuit 
of the Art (rather than the lowly craft) label, many of the crafts 
have dispensed with the use element some time ago; I can't be the 
only person who marvels at vases which won't stand up straight, much 
less hold water; at wire-knit stockings; or at chairs which ought 
to come, part-and-parcel, with a chiropractor. The natural progression 
is to dispense with the beauty element as well; let's make *all* the 
edges cutting, in the name of Art.


BTW... Before it got radicalised, the Museum of Art and Design used 
to be called American Craft Museum... :)


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Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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