[lace] Stool for very little lacemakers on ebay - Long

2003-09-16 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 9/15/03 2:31:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I sure would enjoy sitting just 9 inches off the ground on the 1780
 lacemakers stool on ebay:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2558646236category=120
 9
 or search for item number 2558646236 
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Dear Lacemakers,

It is interesting what antique dealers will attach the label Lace to, and 
there has been some disbelief expressed.  Perhaps there is information about 
this type of George III (1780) stool in a lace magazine or antique magazine in 
England.

In the meantime, I've found a reference to very low chairs for lacemakers in 
Lace Magazine International, Vol. 44, Winter 1997, page 9:  The article is 
Lace Days in Javea, Spain, written by Ivo Baekelmans.  LMi ordering 
information at:

http://www.lacemaking.com

The most interesting feature of the Spanish lacemaking setup is the very low 
chair.  The lace pillow rests on the knees and against a low table.  Old 
chairs for lacemaking are no higher than 10 inches off the ground.  Apparently, 
the lower the chair, the easier it is for the legs to bear the weight of the 
cushion for hours on end.  Another reason is perhaps that the people of Spain 
used to be much shorter  The author goes on to note that her 3-year old 
daughter sleeps in a 120-year-old bed and her chair was previously used by adults 
in the 18th C.  She also reminds us that poor children made lace at the time, 
that they were often undernourished, and the implication is they may not have 
grown to heights we might think of as normal.  

This article is illustrated with a photo of the well-known statue of a young 
Spanish lacemaker in Barcelona.  Her large bolster pillow is held on her knees 
in an upright position, propped at the top against a special stand.  The 
pillow measures about as long as the distance between her knee and foot, and is 
almost as large in circumference as her head.  Very bulky and heavy in 
appearance.  Very much in need of sturdy bracing.  Her knees are bent so that they 
look 
level with the ground, and her feet are pulled way back under her. It looks 
to me as if the bench she is sitting on is low.  If she planted her feet flat 
on the ground, her knees would be elevated and could not support the pillow for 
an extended period of time!

I've been thinking about my reaction to cold In the old farmhouse I lived in 
as a child.  It was normal to draw one's knees up to bring body heat together. 
 (I was actually called Miss Muffet by an uncle, for so often assuming this 
curled up sitting position -- sitting on an old-fashioned low footstool.)  With 
an old wood-burning furnace supplying heat through one register in the center 
of the house, it was around that register (open metal grillwork set into the 
floor) that I played -- as low and close to the warmth as possible.

Carry this thought a bit further, to the stories of lacemakers working in old 
cottages where cattle were sheltered below.  In some countries where the 
finest threads were used to make lace, some lacemakers relied on the heat from the 
bodies of cows to rise to the room above through cracks in the wooden floors. 
 They did not use fires for fear of drying out the very fine threads.  
Imagine the need for warmth.  The chairs and stools were probably very low.

If the bottoms of legs of chairs or stools became damaged by moisture, it was 
not unusual for them to be cut down to a lower height.  I looked at the 
picture of the stool being auctioned, and it occurred to me this might have been 
done many years ago.

The concept of a low stool does not seem far-fetched to me.  But, that an 
antiques dealer can say with certainty that a specific article of furniture was a 
lacemaker's stool circa 1780 does raise questions!

The dealer refers to Miller's Antiques Price Guide.  I can tell you with 
certainty that no price guide would influence how much I would pay for an antique. 
 Perhaps I should write about one that has many errors, so you'll appreciate 
what I mean!?

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

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Re: [lace] Stool for very little lacemakers on ebay - Long

2003-09-16 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hallo Jeri and all others,
Those of you who have the book Hispanic lace And Lacemaking could see on
page 276 figure 296 a lacemaker on such a little stool and on page 285
figure 305 and page 315 figure 336 lacemakers sitting on soil.
Greetings
Ilske

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Re: [lace] Stool for very little lacemakers on ebay

2003-09-16 Thread Valda Kemp
 or they just rested their feet on it with the pillow in their lap ... by
 the way , what makes it a lacemaker's stool ? and how can one say it dates
 back to george III ?

 puzzled dominique from paris

I was wondering the same thing.  To me it looks like the stools I used to
sit on when I milked the cows, back in my youth. (long long ago)

Valda
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[lace] Stool for very little lacemakers on ebay

2003-09-15 Thread Jean Nathan
I sure would enjoy sitting just 9 inches off the ground on the 1780
lacemakers stool on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2558646236category=120
9

or search for item number 2558646236

Perhaps you sit with your legs straight out in front with your pillow
resting on them. Even if I could get down to sit 9 inches off the ground,
I'd need a crane to get me up again. Or perhaps lacemakers were smaller in
1780.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Stool for very little lacemakers on ebay (2)

2003-09-15 Thread Jean Nathan
Or I suppose the seller could mean a footrest. Then why not say so. And of
course only lacemakers would need one.

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace] Stool for very little lacemakers on ebay

2003-09-15 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 15/09/2003 19:31:29 GMT Daylight Time, 
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 I sure would enjoy sitting just 9 inches off the ground on the 1780

Perhaps it's for a very small lacemaker - maybe only 9 inches tall rotfl

Regards

Liz Beecher
I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see 
what it's all about

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