Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay
In a message dated 8/6/03 4:35:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << This is a bit different: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3542965907&category=463 50 or search for item number 3542965907 Would have thought the appeal is a bit specialised. >> - Dear Lacemakers, These books were offered on eBay last August or September, and we had quite a bit of discussion about them. I ordered them for the library here at that time. Also, another book that gives instructions, by Onuk. The two volumes referenced are a compilation of many examples of what we call (in the U.S.) Armenian lace. But, they have added crochet and tatting. The Turkish author calls all these techniques OYA: Turkish Lace Works. The books are set up like a catalog -- pictures and descriptions. Another contemporary expert, Taciser Onuk, has written several books in recent years. One book is "Oya Culture Since the Ottomans", ISBN 975-17-2451-1.. Dr. Onuk wrote this book in 2000 for the Turkish Historical Society. Of all three books, this is the one I would recommend, because it provides instructions, diagrams and color photos. There is no mention of "Armenian" in the above books. The Armenians were systematically erradicated by the Turks in massacres in 1895-96 and again in 1915-22. A few Armenians who fled to other nations survived. This is still a great trauma to people of Armenian descent. I talked at length at the IOLI convention with a lacemaker of Armenian descent. It is as painful for her as for any survivor of any holocaust, and difficult to explain to her young grandchildren since it has received much less attention than the WWII holocaust. The best book of history and instruction I know of is "Armenian Needlelace and Embroidery" by Alice Odian Kasparian, EPM Publications, ISBN 0-914440-65-9, 1983. It can be borrowed from the IOLI library, and probably from Interlibrary Loan. The history of this region is most interesting. Tradition teaches that these people are descendants of Noah's son Japhet. If this, and the fact that Crusaders passed through this region and brought Armenian textiles back to Western Europe, is a subject of interest to you - Kasparian's book is one to read. There is a large bibliography that will lead you to other books on the subject. Another book is Elena Dickson's "Knotted Lace - in the Eastern Mediterranean Tradition", Milner Craft Series (Australia), Reprinted several times since 1992. ISBN 1-86351-121-0. As I have scrambled through my books to provide this information, it occurs to me that I wrote about these books on Arachne last Fall. It seems to me that I saw an Arachne (Robin?) making Armenian lace at IOLI. Perhaps she will write about the Armenian Needlelace class taught by Gretchen Allgeier. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay
Hi Both Jeans and those interested in Armenian Needlelace! I did a beading class at the Convention of Irish Lacemakers recently with Pat Trott who also taught Armenian needle lace to some of the class. I Googled and came up with some examples on this page http://www.urartu-cilicia.netfirms.com/armenian_janyag_art.htm Lindy in Ireland > I think that Oya is the term used for the Armenian knotted lace. (ie) > .needlelace), but I can't lay my hands on the book to check at the > moment. Looking at some of the sellers other items however, they have a > scarf with what appears to be crochet and beads round the edge, It > seems to be just the same as the one I bought in the turkish part of > Famagusta, Cyprus 35 years ago. It is on muslin cloth, large headscarf > size, edged with crochet and decorated with seed beads, which had > obviously threaded on before the crochet was started. I did not know > anything about Armenian lace then so I did not look for any examples. > Jean in Cleveland U.K., trying to stay cool and fighting with a cross > stitch picture which has gone rather wrong! > > On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: > > > This is a bit different: > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ > > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3542965907&category=463 > > 50 > > > > or search for item number 3542965907 > > > > Would have thought the appeal is a bit specialised. > > > > Jean in Poole > > - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay
Hi Jean, I think that Oya is the term used for the Armenian knotted lace. (ie) .needlelace), but I can't lay my hands on the book to check at the moment. Looking at some of the sellers other items however, they have a scarf with what appears to be crochet and beads round the edge, It seems to be just the same as the one I bought in the turkish part of Famagusta, Cyprus 35 years ago. It is on muslin cloth, large headscarf size, edged with crochet and decorated with seed beads, which had obviously threaded on before the crochet was started. I did not know anything about Armenian lace then so I did not look for any examples. Jean in Cleveland U.K., trying to stay cool and fighting with a cross stitch picture which has gone rather wrong! On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: This is a bit different: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3542965907&category=463 50 or search for item number 3542965907 Would have thought the appeal is a bit specialised. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay
There are many patterns for oyas in crochet in The Batsford Book of Crochet by Ann Stearns (pages 144 - 155) Some are beaded; others are not. An extract on p 144 reads " Personal lace consists largely of the very fine narrow laces used for trimmings, either as a braid or a more decorative edging. The lace is seen as a decoration on such articles as sashes, scarges, large handkerchieves... head squares. The young girls prepare their dowry by making lace for these articles, and it is known by the name oya. For example,each girl may prepare as many as 25 head squares displaying very beautiful and different oyas. ... The very best technique used for making oyas is the needlemade technique and only the more able needlewoman could produce the best quality oya." Barbara Ballantyne in sunny Sydney, Australia. - Original Message - From: "Jean Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Lace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay > Hi Jean, > I think that Oya is the term used for the Armenian knotted lace. (ie) > .needlelace), but I can't lay my hands on the book to check at the > moment. Looking at some of the sellers other items however, they have a > scarf with what appears to be crochet and beads round the edge, It > seems to be just the same as the one I bought in the turkish part of > Famagusta, Cyprus 35 years ago. It is on muslin cloth, large headscarf > size, edged with crochet and decorated with seed beads, which had > obviously threaded on before the crochet was started. I did not know > anything about Armenian lace then so I did not look for any examples. > Jean in Cleveland U.K., trying to stay cool and fighting with a cross > stitch picture which has gone rather wrong! > > On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Jean Nathan wrote: > > > This is a bit different: > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/ > > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3542965907&category=463 > > 50 > > > > or search for item number 3542965907 > > > > Would have thought the appeal is a bit specialised. > > > > Jean in Poole > > > > - > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] TURKISH LACEWORK OYA CATALOG 2 VOLS FIGURES on ebay
This is a bit different: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3542965907&category=463 50 or search for item number 3542965907 Would have thought the appeal is a bit specialised. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
