I haven't gone through the entire Ning discussion, ,so apologies if this is
not pertinent, but... in the early (16th C) lace, there are braids made
entirely of TC and you can make them as wide as you like depending on the
number of pairs. They can be made center-pointed by changing the order of
pairs used.
Where typically (especially those of us trained on Torchon :D ) we work
left to right or vice versa in neat sequence (i.e. work pair one through
all pairs before returning to the starting side), for a pointed TC braid
you work pr 1+2, pr 3+4, pr 5+6 (for a 6 pair braid), then work 2+3, 4+5,
and repeat these 2 rows to length required. When ready to end, then work
only 3+4. This will give your point, and is surprisingly easy to keep the
whole braid in tension at this point. I won't swear this is how your braid
is made, but it an option. You can modify this to work in a more typical
diagonal fashion, but while I can do it I'm not sure I can describe it - it
basically is just, as you work for the point you do not work successive
pairs at the end i.e. 1-6, then 1-5, then 1-4, etc.
Don't know if that helps or not. the long tallies look a lot like my
regular tallies - the straight parts are easy to tension, it's getting neat
points that always messes me up :D
Chris
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 16:59:45 -0400
> From: Devon Thein
> Subject: [lace] mezzo punto tapes-Diagonal weave?
>
> The photos are posted at
> http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history
>
>
> I have been looking at some mezzo punto. Mezzo punto is made using a
> premade tape, laying it in a shape, then filling and embellishing it with
> needle lace stitches. Based on previous Arachne conversations I had been
> going on the theory that the premade tapes were made using a small loom and
> represented a time saving effort. That made sense when the tape looked like
> that in the first photo. But, during todayâs examination I realized that
> the tape which looked like a warp faced weave was actually a diagonal weave
> (second photo). Continuing my examination, I found another piece where the
> tape looked like it might even be different than the other two. (third
> photo) This one seemed to have diagonal and horizontal lines causing me to
> wonder about Lauraâs enticing reference to compressed half stitch.
>
> I think the diagonal weave (2) may be in many other pieces. But how was
> this made? Is the only way to make it with bobbins? This seems very time
> consuming, but people did consume a lot of time back in the 17th century
> doing things like that. Thinking about Kimâs observations about braiding,
I
> looked at a book on braiding and realized it might be possible to make a
> diagonal looking flat tape with a kumihimo device or a square device,
> possibly tablet (or card) weaving. Would this be faster than with bobbins?
>
> I also found some discussion about making braid on something called a
> âtrollen wheelâ, but this seems to be a discredited concept.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Devon
>
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