[lace] ramie/cotton blends for lace making?

2003-10-12 Thread susan
i thought maybe this question would be better asked on lace, so excuse 

the cross posting. 


i have been reading up on some types of fibers used 

in spinning and i was curious if a ramie and cotton mix was a good 

type of tread used for lace.  i know ramie is stiff and can be brittle,


but they say if it is mixed with cotton it makes a strong thread and 

even stronger than silk. have you ever heard of this type of thread for


lace making?  

also does anyone know how rabbit angora does as a lace thread?  i just 

bought some spinning books and a one ounce drop spindle and i am going 

to make some thread. i know cotton and flax are the two most common, 

but i wanted to see how the ramie and angora were used and if they were


suitable to be used in lace.

if anyone knows please reply.   thank you. 



 


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Re: [lace] ramie/cotton blends for lace making?

2003-10-12 Thread Laceandbits
I don't know anything about ramie, but all threads can be used to make lace.  
The important thing is to get the right size/scale pricking for the thread, 
do a sample to see what it feels like made up, and then use it for 
appropriate things.  

For example, let's say you use a thickish ramie/cotton thread, you choose a 
pricking that sets it off just fine, but the finished lace is a bit stiff and 
scratchy.  Now this wouldn't matter at all for a wall hanging but might not be 
the best for a scarf.

The angora has two disadvantages I can think of, from using this type of yarn 
for knitting.  The first is that the fluff tends to hide the pattern, so use 
it for a simple, bold design; Torchon ground rather than rose ground is an 
example of what I mean here.  The second is that it tends to felt slightly so you 
want to keep undoing to the minimum; a simple design will also help with 
this.  Again, do some samples to get the right grid so you keep the lovely 
softness and drape.  

I have got some handspun yarn (not by me g) that is one ply shetland and 
one ply of mohair.  I picked up one skein to make a scarf, then a second in case 
one wasn't quite enough.  Then I saw two more and bought those as well so 
there may be enough for a jacket front (or half a front and half a back) instead 
of the scarf.  But what ever I decide to make it will be after careful 
sampling to get exactly the right size grid for it, as I want it as soft as possible 
(biggish grid) without it losing its shape (too big grid).  

Good luck, and do let us know the results of any experiments you do.
Jacquie

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Re: [lace] ramie/cotton blends for lace making?

2003-10-12 Thread susan
i don't want anything fuzzy for lace making, so i will look at 

something else other than the angora, but i am going to mix the ramie 

with the cotton and try it out.  the types of things i had planned to 

make were table mats, and the ramie mix would look great on something 

like that. i also agree that i wouldn't want to wear something itchy 

and ruff, so if the pattern were a collar and cuff set i would 

definitly not use that type of thread.



i think it is more important to have the correct size thread for the 

pattern than a specific type of material. i plan to buy a small amount 

of the size of thread the pattern calls for and use it as a guage for 

what size to spin.



 i have already been through having to enlarge a pattern to fit the 

size of thread that i had.  it wasn't that hard, but it wasn't worth 

it. i wouldn't say i won't do it again, but i would definitly try to 

avoid it if i could.



thanks for the good advice.





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