[lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia

2010-04-30 Thread Laurie Waters
Since we were talking about Empress Maria-Theresia's lace dress a few months 
ago, I thought you might like to know that I just put up the two stamps that 
show the two portraits of her wearing this dress on Ebay. 130387569331
They are fairly hard to find. Also put up a bunch of other lace-related 
philatelic stuff. Thanks,
Laurie 


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Re: [lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia

2009-11-02 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Dear Arachneans,
from a painting it's seldom possible to say for sure which sort of  
lace it is. But if we look on photos from for example Point of  
d'Alencon from the time 1750 till 1800 it could be that this is the  
lace from the dress we are speaking, it could be it must not.
I know from an article I couldn't find at the moment that Maria- 
Theresia was fond of the Flemish laces. And I remember having read  
somewhere that the dress she is wearing on the painting which is on  
the title of S. Levey's book was the result of a competition by  
Flemish lacemakers. Maria-Theresia got this dress by the Estates of  
Flanders on the occasion of her investiture in Ghent in 1744. She was  
than painted in the dress from Martin von Meytens and she gave this  
painting to the city of Ghent.
As far as I know the dress claims today the Kunsthistorische Museum in  
Vienna.


Ilske

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RE: [lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia

2009-10-31 Thread jeanette
At the OIDFA congress in Ghent, this dress was discussed in one of the
lecture sessions but I unfortunately do not have the  print-out any longer
but it was essensially as Laurie puts it (as far as I can remember!!).  I
admire Laurie for her knowledge and the willingness to share it with us all!
Thank you.
Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.

 

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[lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia

2009-10-30 Thread Nathalie
Dear lace lovers,

Would there be anyone who has the right source to define the type of
lace of the dress of Maria-Theresia. I mean the lace which she got on
the occasion of her inauguration in 1744.
Some sources, such as Santina Levey, mention Brussels lace. Some
others think it was made in Mechlin lace by the orphans of Ghent. Did
these young girls made Mechlin lace?

There is an opinion that the dress was made in Brussels lace but the
cuffs and collar in Mechlin lace.

As the dress was made in Flanders, it surely must be bobbin lace.

The picture of the painting is on the cover of the book of Santina
Levy, Lace - a history.

Looking forward to your thoughts. :-)

Stevie

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Re: [lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia

2009-10-30 Thread Pat Tinney
A quick question.

Are you referring to the dress in this painting used on Wikipedia:
http://tinyurl.com/27kayw

Not all of us have the book, but would like to see what you are referring to,
if possible.

Thank you,
Pat T.

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 lace of the dress of Maria-Theresia. I mean the lace which she got on
 the occasion of her inauguration in 1744.

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[lace] the dress of Maria-Theresia

2009-10-30 Thread Laurie Waters
I am making an extensive web discussion on Maria-Theresia's lace dress as 
part of my developing new lace web site. Apologies for the length of this 
email
Maria-Theresa was the eldest daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor, Charles VI 
(1685-1740) - his only male heir died as an infant. He worked extensively to 
guarantee the succession of his daughter to the Habsburg Empire. Despite her 
elevation upon her father's death in 1740, Saxony, Prussia, Bavaria and 
France, which had previously agreed to femine rule under the Pragmatic 
Succession of 1713, repudiated their promise. Prussia went so far as to 
invade the Habsburg province of Silesia, initiating the War of the Austrian 
Succession, which lasted eight years. Other parts of the Empire, such as the 
States of Flanders, were eager to curry favor with the new monarch, and 
presented her with this magnificent gown in 1744 - it was known that she 
wanted a gown and a garniture of lace from the Netherlands. Such an 
extensive work could not have been done quickly, it was probably ordered 
several years before 1944. The States of Flanders was basically a 
'parlimentary' body supporting the Counts of Flanders (Maria-Thersia became 
Countess of Flanders upon her accession in 1740), and consisted of the 
clergy, nobles, and commoners. Bruges, Ghent, and Ypres were economically 
the most important cities in Flanders, and could well afford the expense of 
this gift.  The records of the debate concerning this gift are hilarious:


M. Comte de Lalaing, having made known to the assembly that her Majesty the 
Queen of Hungary and Bohemia, our gracious Sovereign, would like to have a 
garment and a garniture of lace from the Netherlands manufactured in that 
country, and that she has already asked Her Higness the Duchesse d'Arenbergh 
to procure this for herself, and after having taken into consideration that 
it is necessary to profit by this favorable occasion to try and prove to 
some extent to Her Majesty, our innate and tireless zeal by contributing, in 
so far as possible, by this assembly with the satisfaction and the pleasure 
of and to give her on behalf of the Province of Flanders, before all the 
other provinces, the first marks (of attachment), it was decided to give Her 
Majesty the present of a gown or a garniture of lace fabricated in the 
Netherlands to the value of 25 thousand florins, to be paid by the Clerk of 
the impost in the district of Ghent (thread by thread) to be assigned to Her 
Highness the Duchesse d'Arenbergh; and when the amount of the aforesaid sum 
has been paid by the above-named clerk of taxes in the district of Ghent, he 
will be allowed to pass ordinance in the tax compatability.
In addition, it was decided to charge and appoint the Very Reverend M. 
Cassin de Boulers, abbot d'Eenaeme, M. Albert François Baron della Faille 
and the Huysse, and the gentleman Jean Walckiers, seigneur d'Ooswinckel, 
clerk of taxes in the district of Ghent, to make known the above-mentioned 
resolution to his Excellency the Count von Königseeg and to Her Highness the 
Duchesse d'Arenbergh and ask them to obtain for Her Majesty that which she 
would like to have, hoping that it will be agreable to her.

(signed) J. B. J. Ameije

All throughout its history, the Habsburg empire was centered in modern 
Austria, however the lace gown was made in Gent, Documentation exists to 
show that the Gent orphans known as the 'Red Corsets' from the dress the 
female orphans wore, were paid to do the work. The population of the Gent 
orphans rose and fell over the years depending on local wars, but by in 
large the girls were trained as lacemakers and seamstresses, while the boys 
eventually went into the Navy.  This way the government could ensure a 
military workforce.


Six of Maria-Theresa's sixteen children had been born by the time this dress 
was received, and she was around 26 years old when the seated portrait by 
Martyn van Meytens (1695-1770) was painted - it remains to this day in the 
town hall of Gent. It was a gift to the States of Flanders in appreciation 
of the dress. The underdress is a rose color. The standing portrait was 
painted around 1745, and is in the Schönbrunn palace near Vienna. Both 
paintings are attributed to van Mytens. Two stamps have been issued by 
Belgium, one with the standing dress portrait in and one with the seated 
portrait in 1972 for the 200th anniversary of the Academie Royale des 
Sciences des Lettres et des Beaux-Arts de Belgique (The Empress was the 
founder of the institution). The second stamp was of the standing portrait 
and was issued in 1964 as part of a series raising money for Tuberculosis 
research (different countries issued a set of stamps for this enterprise 
every year).  You can see both portraits at
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/93342/1/Empress-Maria-Theresa.jpg 
and at

http://www.hofburg-wien.at/typo3temp/pics/MariaTheresia_02_c17a72b0d4.jpg

I am working on a translation Mme Lucie Paulis, in