RE: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

2019-03-10 Thread Laurie Waters
Working on the LaceNews article - forgive me, been feeling a little under
the weather this week. Might be the flu...
Laurie



Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 10:12:04 + (GMT)
From: Catherine Barley 
Subject: Re: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

Fascinating article and thank you Jeri for asking Devon to post it on
arachne.  I've read the latest post about many thinking the collar to be
that of needelace and not bobbin lace but can only get the NYT article on my
laptop and not my iPad, where I was hoping to enlarge the portrait enabling
me to pass an opinion as to whether I think it is needlelace or not, but
unfortunately neither mine or my husband's iPad will allow!  I shall be
watching with interest the discussions on Lace News.

Catherine Barley UK


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Re: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

2019-03-06 Thread Adele Shaak
OK. I’ve been reading Santina Levey this morning, and I think the collar in the 
Jan Six XI Rembrandt is indeed bobbin lace. Read Levey's remarks on Flemish 
bobbin lace on p. 23 and take a good look at plates 112 and 135 - 140. The 
Flemish falling collars are specifically mentioned as being made in bobbin 
lace, which was much softer than needle lace and very popular for falling 
collars. 

Plate 140 is another Rembrandt portrait, with a very similar collar, that she 
states is bobbin lace.

Plate 112 shows an early bedcover of part lace, and it is divided into squares, 
like reticella but the closeup shows that it is a bobbin-made part lace. When I 
started making lace I was told that the rectangular make-up was a sure sign of 
needle lace - but I can see that was wrong information.

There is one similar lace piece shown (plate 132, bottom), that is needle lace. 
To me it looks more fully filled-in, heavier & stiffer than the other pieces. 
If you look at the Rembrandt portraits, they often show the lace being casually 
curled up, as if wafting in a breeze. Needle lace didn’t do that. Softness and 
lightness were the hallmarks of Flemish bobbin laces at this time.

I don’t see any reason to challenge Levey over this, or the European expert 
that Jan Six XI consulted.

But, I haven’t read what the people commenting on the NYT article have said.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

2019-03-06 Thread Catherine Barley
Fascinating article and thank you Jeri for asking Devon to post it on arachne.  
I've read the latest post about many thinking the collar to be that of 
needelace and not bobbin lace but can only get the NYT article on my laptop and 
not my iPad, where I was hoping to enlarge the portrait enabling me to pass an 
opinion as to whether I think it is needlelace or not, but unfortunately 
neither mine or my husband's iPad will allow!  I shall be watching with 
interest the discussions on Lace News.

Catherine Barley UK


Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

Original message--
Subject : [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

This article appeared in the New York Times magazine section this week. I
posted it on the International Organization of Lace's facebook page where
it has been very popular. Jeri Ames has encouraged me to post it on arachne
as well. Here is the link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/magazine/rembrandt-jan-six.html
There are several interesting things in this article. One is that the
dealer Jan Six XI was immediately attracted to the lace on the painting
which is a collar style that he claims was only in fashion between
1633-1635. 

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RE: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

2019-03-05 Thread Laurie Waters
This is going to need some photos, so I’ll write a LaceNews article about
it.

Laurie



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Subject: RE: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace



Could Laurie share with us a bit of the discussion about why this is obviously
not bobbin lace?

Devon

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RE: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

2019-03-05 Thread DevonThein
Could Laurie share with us a bit of the discussion about why this is obviously
not bobbin lace?
Devon
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