RE: [lace] Footside on left or right?
Janice Interesting theory! Lorelei -Original Message- Subject: [lace] Footside on left or right? The question of why the footside of yardage lace is either on the right (mainly English laces) or on the left (mainly European continent laces) ... answer other than the Brits do everything the other way around from their continental cousins. So my theory is that when the Mechlin and Lille lacemakers fled to England , they either took rubbings of their prickings or allowed rubbings to be taken from their prickings in their new country and the quickest and easiest way to make up these designs was to change the side of the footside. Janis in South Africa - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Footside on left
. and do not forget South Africa Manie Kriel -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Ann Blunden Sent: 24 April 2014 07:15 AM To: Jill; dmt11h...@aol.com; alexstillw...@talktalk.net; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Footside on left Australians and New Zealanders also drive on the left. Ann Blunden in Brisbane Australia On 23/04/2014 11:19 PM, Jill wrote: England isn't the only country that drives on the left. Â Japan is another place, and Malta as well as the US Virgin Islands and there are others. Jill - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is. Devon In a message dated 4/23/2014 4:37:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alexstillw...@talktalk.net writes: Hi Arachnids I have been asked a question. ââ¬ËWhich laces have the footside on the left and which on the right?ââ¬â¢ As far as I know only the English laces Bucks Point and Bedfordshire have the footside on the left. Even the English Downton has it on the right. Does anyone know of any other laces with it on the right? As for why I have several ideas. 1) Someone with little experience or who had not made it for some time introduces lacemaking in England. 2) The person introducing the lace wanted to put her ââ¬Ëstampââ¬â¢ on it. 3) The person who introduced the lace worked it out how it was made by examining the lace. Any information, comments and discussion is going to be very interesting. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
England isn't the only country that drives on the left. Â Japan is another place, and Malta as well as the US Virgin Islands and there are others. Jill Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Original message From: dmt11h...@aol.com Date:23/04/2014 13:23 (GMT+00:00) To: alexstillw...@talktalk.net, lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Footside on left I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
_j...@myhawkins.co.uk_ (mailto:j...@myhawkins.co.uk) writes: England isn't the only country that drives on the left. Japan is another place, and Malta as well as the US Virgin Islands and there are others. Where are the footsides of the laces of these countries? Interestingly, Lyn says that the Swedish footside was on the left. Sweden only switched to right hand driving in 1967. One might speculate about Island Effect, which results in animals becoming smaller, for instance, so why not lace with the footside on the left? (Doesn't account for Sweden, though.) Of course, Malta was once part of the United Kingdom, which explains why they drive on the left. The US Virgin Islands were originally Danish territory, but I can't find any indication that the Danes drove on the left. Perhaps, the US Virgin Islands are trying to be consistent with the British Virgin Islands that are nearby. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
From a bit of European travel, i believe the only country that drives on the right consistently is US and possessions of the US. Hugs, Lin and the Mali âIf you are going to achieve excellence in big things, you develop the habit in little matters. Excellence is not an exception, it is a prevailing attitude.â Colin Powell On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Jill j...@myhawkins.co.uk wrote: England isn't the only country that drives on the left. Japan is another place, and Malta as well as the US Virgin Islands and there are others. Jill Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Original message From: dmt11h...@aol.com Date:23/04/2014 13:23 (GMT+00:00) To: alexstillw...@talktalk.net, lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Footside on left I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
Actually the entire UK - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland - not just England, drives on the left. The reason goes back before the time of automated transport to the days of horseback travel - and highwaymen and footpads. Supposedly riding on the left allowed the right arm, the sword arm, to be free for defence. Definitely not the reason for having the footside on the left. Australia is another country which drives on the left. Patricia in Wales I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is. Devon In a message dated 4/23/2014 4:37:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alexstillw...@talktalk.net writes: Hi Arachnids I have been asked a question. �������Which laces have the footside on the left and which on the right?�������� As far as I know only the English laces Bucks Point and Bedfordshire have the footside on the left. Even the English Downton has it on the right. Does anyone know of any other laces with it on the right? As for why I have several ideas. 1) Someone with little experience or who had not made it for some time introduces lacemaking in England. 2) The person introducing the lace wanted to put her �������stamp�������� on it. 3) The person who introduced the lace worked it out how it was made by examining the lace. Any information, comments and discussion is going to be very interesting. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
I remember having a discussion about this when I first started making lace and someone suggested that somebody simply put the pricking on the pillow upside down because they weren't all nicely marked as they are now? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
Are you assuming a single point of introduction, during which a mistake was made? I would assume there were many points of introduction and contact, but one country, or possibly several, regularized to left footside while most regularized to right footside. Also, I would have to disagree with Lin. I don't think it is only the US and it's possessions that drive consistently on the right. Europe drives on the right. According to Wikipedia 65% of the world drives on the right. A better generalization would be to relate former British colonial status to left driving, although Japan doesn't fit that model. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left
Australians and New Zealanders also drive on the left. Ann Blunden in Brisbane Australia On 23/04/2014 11:19 PM, Jill wrote: England isn't the only country that drives on the left. Â Japan is another place, and Malta as well as the US Virgin Islands and there are others. Jill Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 Original message From: dmt11h...@aol.com Date:23/04/2014 13:23 (GMT+00:00) To: alexstillw...@talktalk.net, lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Footside on left I think it is the same reason why the English drive on the left, while everyone else drives on the right. But, I don't know what that reason is. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Footside on left or right
From: Leonard Bazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] I generally work with the footside on the right, certainly for Bucks point, but with it on the left for early forays into Flandern and point de Paris. I think there can be a practical difference in working the different ways, though I'm not sure whether it really matters. I've virtually always ended up with the main angle of work top right to bottom left, whichever side the footside was on. I nearly always work with footside (when present) on the left. It just looks so awkward the other way around. This is a bit ironic, since left-side picots are a whole lot easier for me, but then I don't like picots anyway. As for an angle of work, it really depends on the pattern for me. On my one try at wide and complex Skan (which has no pins except at the edges), I always made a mad dash for the footside (on the left) so I could anchor the thread. This meant the edge of the worked area was upper-right to lower-left. On torchon and Bucks, I often work in a chevron or even zig-zag edge as I work an area as far as it can go, then move to another area and work it. I like to complete motifs/sections whenever possible, and this leads to a front edge that progresses in bits and pieces. There have even been occasions when I worked from the footside down/right to the headside because that's the way I could understand the pattern. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
