Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-25 Thread Jean Barrett

Good morning All,
I took the Council members class on Bibilla in Athens last year,  
because I love the Oya scarves they make. Not a good idea. As Diane  
said, its all in the tension. My round doierly is more like a basket,  
and I ended up with a bad shoulder for weeks. So I have made a Rosa  
Libre Edge to put on a scarf as a sort of Bobbin Lace Version of Rosa  
Libre. I will post a picture when it is finished. It needs a couple  
of Butterflies now.

Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 25 Jan 2006, at 01:43, Diane Z wrote:

There's an article in the last Piecework magazine on oya lace.  I  
don't think the directions are too good but the close up of the  
finished edge is very good.


There are several books on Armenian lace on the market and the  
descriptions are very good on how to make the knot.


I also took the class in Harrisburg, and it is not a complicated  
procedure. Tension is everything and that part I still can't get  
correct.  I think this is a perfect lace to make while traveling.


OIDFA in Athens has a class on Oya lace in May.  I'm hoping to get  
a few tension pointers from some of the students of that class and  
finally have a good portable lace to make.


Diane Zierold
Lubec Maine


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Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-25 Thread Barb ETx
Good morning Avital,
  I think he only English in the on-line version is the names of the flower
illustrations.  I have not read the entire on-line version as I do not need
it. I feel so priviledged to have the book and it is tranlsted in side by side
colums.

The article/illustrations in the J/A 1996 PIECEWORKS seem taken  from the book
( with permission, I am sure!)) This issue has much more about origins and
instructions.
Regards,
 BarbE



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  Printable? Well, with difficulty. It's in frames, so you have to print the
right
  frame for each topic. If you know of a version where the whole book is
  downloadable as a single file I'd love to see it. Where is the English?
I've
  only seen the occasional translation of a pattern name, but no more than
that.

  Best wishes,

  Avital

   book...Turkish/English version  She sent me a link to site where the book,
in
   Turkish, is printable   Great pictures. too
   http://www.akmb.gov.tr/turkce/books/osmanlidangunoyalar/   It has good
   diagrams and some English.  She has also found a lady in Ca who makes and

BarbE ...
   near Dallas
  

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RE: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-25 Thread Patricia Dowden
Interesting thing about that article. Although the article is about needlelace
oya, the full-page photo shows mostly tatted and crocheted oya!

Avital

 There's an article in the last Piecework magazine on oya lace.  I don't
 think the directions are too good but the close up of the finished edge is
 very good.

 Diane Zierold
 Lubec Maine

Hi Spiders,

I just read somewhere, probably in eBay where someone sells a 2 volume set 
about Turkish Oya.  In Turkish, Oya simply means decoration or ornament, so the 
choice of weapon is left to the decorator.

Patty

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Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-25 Thread Barb ETx
You can find it here;
http://stores.ebay.com.sunnymailbox   the book have I optained from here. the
dealer is Suzan Caliskan., very dependable.  My book is :
http://cgi.ebay.com/TURKISH-ANTIQUE-LACE-NEEDLEWORK-OYA-HOW-TO-DO-BOOK_W0QQit
emZ8240273063QQcategoryZ19158QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
X-RARE

Title: Oya Culture Since Ottomans (Osmanlidan Günümüze Oyalar  )

Author, Prep. , Trans., etc: Taciser Onuk; Translated into English by Barbara
Blackwell Gulen

ISBN: 975-17-2451-1

Genre: Art
Edition: First printing
Year of Publication: 2000

Dewey Decimal No: 746,4
Size: 28 cm.x 20 cm.
Number of Pages: 283, with colour pages

regards,

BarbE

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Hi Spiders,

I just read somewhere, probably in eBay where someone sells a 2 volume set
about Turkish Oya.  In Turkish, Oya simply means decoration or ornament, so
the choice of weapon is left to the decorator.

Patty

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Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-24 Thread Diane Z
There's an article in the last Piecework magazine on oya lace.  I don't 
think the directions are too good but the close up of the finished edge is 
very good.


There are several books on Armenian lace on the market and the descriptions 
are very good on how to make the knot.


I also took the class in Harrisburg, and it is not a complicated procedure. 
Tension is everything and that part I still can't get correct.  I think this 
is a perfect lace to make while traveling.


OIDFA in Athens has a class on Oya lace in May.  I'm hoping to get a few 
tension pointers from some of the students of that class and finally have a 
good portable lace to make.


Diane Zierold
Lubec Maine





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RE: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-24 Thread Avital
Interesting thing about that article. Although the article is about needlelace
oya, the full-page photo shows mostly tatted and crocheted oya!

The Turkish book link is very good but you have to go to the very end of the
table of contents (left pane) to find the instructions and pictures, unless, of
course, your reading knowledge of Turkish is very good... ;-)

Avital

 There's an article in the last Piecework magazine on oya lace.  I don't
 think the directions are too good but the close up of the finished edge is
 very good.

 Diane Zierold
 Lubec Maine

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RE: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-24 Thread Avital
Printable? Well, with difficulty. It's in frames, so you have to print the right
frame for each topic. If you know of a version where the whole book is
downloadable as a single file I'd love to see it. Where is the English? I've
only seen the occasional translation of a pattern name, but no more than that.

Best wishes,

Avital

 book...Turkish/English version  She sent me a link to site where the book, in
 Turkish, is printable   Great pictures. too
 http://www.akmb.gov.tr/turkce/books/osmanlidangunoyalar/   It has good
 diagrams and some English.  She has also found a lady in Ca who makes and

  BarbE ...
 near Dallas


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Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-23 Thread Barb ETx
Dear Christina...well, first. no, I do not teach Needle oya.!  ;-)
I have two  books on the subject and a couple of us are stumbling along.  I
have a friend, who was here on Sat, and she left with my
book...Turkish/English version  She sent me a link to site where the book, in
Turkish, is printable   Great pictures. too
http://www.akmb.gov.tr/turkce/books/osmanlidangunoyalar/   It has good
diagrams and some English.  She has also found a lady in Ca who makes and
sells and will send that link to me , also

About a year ago i becamse interested and eventually thru ebay made contact
with a gal in Istanbul, she is very fluent in English.  Suzan (Caliskan) is
lovely and thru her I bought the books I have. She sells strips of the needle
oya and other Turkish hand work.  on ebay. She also handles  the thread that
she  said is used...I questioned that when it arrived, because of the texture,
but my friend, Shay, said that she read the pieces are starched.  So we are
learning every day.

 You can go to Suzans ebay store,the link is
http://stores.ebay.com/sunnymailbox  .
Christina, suzan  is a lovely ,helpful lady. ...about 45 years old.  Gentle,
kind and well spoken.  We have become fast friends...the name I use for her is
Sunny...and she is!

If you have access to PIECEWORK magazine (Interweave Press) two issues have
very good articles about needle oya. Issue J/A 1996 page 22 and the current
issue J/ F 2006  page 28.  Both are informative in different ways and both
have instructions.this lates issue explains how there are peopl buying the
needle work of the ladies in the smallcommunities, especially since the 1999
earthquake, so they can make money  'for bread'  i  think both issues are
available.
 I do not think reticella is related to the mid-eastern laces...Armeniam lace
is and the needle oya is classed with Bebilla.  it is prominant in most
mid-eastern countries.

i was so pleased to see you inquiry.   Suzan  has the book I bought ((she
originally found it for me )..it is out of print.  that is what started his
friendship.She still lists it,  occasionally.very expensive...but i am
glad that I bit the bullet and got it. I have a second book on beaded oya, no
English but great pictures.  Jeri in Maine mentioned  the two volume set that
Suzan also has.  it is a  reference catalogue.  I have not seen it.
Oya can be needle, tatted, beaded and /or crocheted.  The word itself means
embellishment.  please let me hear what you learn and I will forward any
information the crosses my desk..

 BarbE ...
near Dallas



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  Does anyone know of anyone in the US who teaches these laces? I am
especially interested in learning the Turkish laces/Oya. I am hoping to find
someone on the east coast who teaches it but will go just about anywhere.
  Christina
  Midlothian VA

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Re: [lace] Oya reticella laces

2006-01-23 Thread robinlace
Gretchen Allgeier taught knotted needlelace and oya construction at the 
Hasbrouck Heights IOLI convention.  She was even able to teach it left-
handed (that may not matter to you, but it sure did matter to me!).  
She used to own the shop Beggar's Lace in Colorado, so maybe the 
current owner knows how to contact her.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
(formerly  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
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 Does anyone know of anyone in the US who teaches these laces? I am 
 especially interested in learning the Turkish laces/Oya. 

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