Re: [lace] To starch or not to starch, that is the question....

2006-06-26 Thread Alice Howell
I starch like Janice -- only 3-D items that needs to
be firm, such as corsage roses and ornaments, or a
lace crown.

Thread has body of it's own.  Most of the time, it is
sufficient for the usage of the lace.  Thread can be
chosen with the end  use in mind.  Linen is firmer
than cotton.  Two ply is softer than six ply. 
Slightly twisted is softer than highly twisted.

Starching everything means you lose the look and feel
of the lace, and the drape of it.  Much of the
pleasure of handling lace is the delicate drape.

Usually, I do like to leave my finished laces on the
pillow over night before removing it.  The last bit of
thread needs to settle into it's new formation to help
keep the integrity of the whole piece.  I might fudge
on this when the lace is going directly to the
starching board, otherwise it rests a bit first.

Use your judgement as to the pattern, thread, and
purpose of the lace.

Please encourage the starching lady to leave it off
some pieces, and see the difference.

Alice in Oregon -- with record high heat wave.  It's
too hot to work, so I made lace.

--- Janice Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The question of starching came up at my last guild
> meeting with one member asking what I recommended. 
> I told her that I only starch things such as
> ornaments that need to be stiff or sometimes if the
> thread is too soft to hold it's shape I will use a
> spray size.  Then, at my other lace guild a newer
> lacer said she starched everything that came off her
> pillow, including hankie lace and lace on a
> beautiful christening robe she had made and trimmed
> with her lace!  She was afraid that it would lose
> its shape when taken off the pillow.  Some of the
> pieces I have seen are so hard I am sure they will
> break if bent.  . What items do you
> think should be starched?

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Re: [lace] To starch or not to starch, that is the question....

2006-06-26 Thread Laceandbits
A couple of thoughts on this thread.

First, regarding removing pins, please may I buck the trend and make a plea 
that when you are working Honiton, Milanese, Duchesse and other laces of this 
type and scale, you don't take out alternate pins.  My reasoning for this is as 
it is quite possible that the lace will be on your pillow for a while, if you 
observe carefully you will see that the edge ends up with a slight dip where 
pins have been removed.  Along edges that are sewn to another, the pins can 
all come out. 

Anyone that the Perryman/Voysey  book "New Designs in Honiton Lace" can see 
this effect; on page 51, look at the top of the right hand leaf or page 85 on 
the front edge of the bonnet, skirt and sleeve.  I'm not picking on this book 
particularly, I just had it in reach and it has very clear photos :-)

If your pin heads are too large to allow all the pins to lie flat, push down 
alternate ones and then the remaining ones so they sit flat on the first.  
Even if all your pinheads are flat to the work you should still use a cover 
cloth 
or slider to protect both the lace you have already made from the friction of 
the bobbins and the thread from the pins.

Secondly, if you are working on a block or roller pillow on a courser lace, 
where you are unpinning the back as you work, stop and think how long those 
pins have been in.  A narrow Torchon may be having the back unpinned within an 
hour or two of being worked, so in that case it seems pointless to leave the 
last couple of inches to 'set'.

As far as starching goes, one of my friends made an exquisite Torchon table 
cloth in cotton thread, partly with me and partly with Pat Read.  The rounds 
were sewn together on the pillow as the work progressed (this ensures the joins 
are at the same tension as the rest of the work) and although all care was 
taken to avoid folding the lace more than necessary, as it was finished she 
spoke 
to Pat for advice on pressing or blocking it.  To her delight, Pat 
volunteered.

What she did was to mark out the size on a piece of old sheet (with a 
waterproof pen so it is a permanent record that can be used again when the 
tablecloth 
is washed) and the pinned it out right around the edge through the sheet into 
??? (I must ask Pat what she did pin into.  On the floor into carpet?  Maybe 
she has a large soft board of some sort, but this cloth must be 4' square).  
Finally she gently sprayed the whole cloth with starch.  Not a lot, just enough 
to dampen it slightly.  It still drapes and is not 'stiff' but has a pleasant 
body to it and it looks wonderful.

It is now stored around a hard cardboard tube (from a carpet warehouse) 
inside its piece of sheet, ready to be given to grand-daughter in due course.

So there is a half way point between the 'soak it and dab it off' sort of 
starching that we need for some 3D lace, and not starching at all.  I suggest 
that if you think your lace might need starching, you do some experiments.  
Make 
a length of bandage in the same thread on the same grid and try different 
types and amounts of starch.  Keep notes so you have a reference for future 
use!  
And don't forget that starch (as distinct from some/most stiffeners) will wash 
out if you are too heavy handed, so no permanent damage will be done.  

Jacquie in Lincolnshire where it's about to rain, but it is the first day of 
Wimbledon today so it is to be expected!

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