re: [lace] fabric stiffener for lace

2004-07-31 Thread Bev Walker
Robin reminded us:

> Just to reiterate, in case anybody's considering trying the polystyrene
(plastic boxes) melted in acetone (nail polish remover) or carbon
tetrachloride.  Anything that will melt the hard polystyrene plastic boxes
will melt polystyrene/styrofoam.  Don't use styrofoam-style stuff to pin
out the lace.  Even if you put a layer of plastic bag between the lace and
the foam, the pins will poke through and the fumes from the evaporating
solvent will do damage.

When it comes right down to it, this melting process with plastics seems
totally dangerous - carbon tet. is carcinogenic; the fumes from the
reaction aren't going to do you any good - I would 'stick' to the adhesive
stiffeners that can be cleaned up with water and are friendly with
whatever else I have in the house ;)

bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) recalling interesting experiences
in the organic chemistry lab

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RE: [lace] fabric stiffener for lace

2004-07-31 Thread dominique
there's a pretty good light stiffener in France called Fabulon . it's 
supposed to help with the ironing but it works well to stiffen  silk for 
example .  the thing is to dab the excess liquid so as  not to have a solid 
starched ground ..

dominique from Paris 

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RE: [lace] fabric stiffener for lace

2004-07-30 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
oh and a hint about putting stiffening goop on the ornaments - I have a
small square of styrofoam (the cheap packing stuff) over which there is a
piece of scrap fabric. <<<

Just to reiterate, in case anybody's considering trying the polystyrene
(plastic boxes) melted in acetone (nail polish remover) or carbon
tetrachloride.  Anything that will melt the hard polystyrene plastic boxes
will melt polystyrene/styrofoam.  Don't use styrofoam-style stuff to pin out
the lace.  Even if you put a layer of plastic bag between the lace and the
foam, the pins will poke through and the fumes from the evaporating solvent
will do damage.

Different kinds of "poly" melt with different solvents.  I don't know
whether acetone or carbon tet will bother polyethylene (ethafoam, builder's
foam), but recommend you avoid them.  Foam rubber padding under an ironing
board cover will dissolve with some solvents, too, and I don't know which
ones.  If using acetone or carbon tet, your best bet is to pin the lace out
onto a thick layer of towels.

This warning does not apply to more common stiffeners, like the starches.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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