[lace-chat] :-) Definitions
Not being a committee person, I liked the defintion of committee by far the best! Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. ADULT: A person who has stopped growing at both ends and is now growing in the middle. BEAUTY PARLOR: A place where women curl up and dye. CANNIBAL: Someone who is fed up with people. CHICKENS: The only animals you eat before they are born and after they are dead. COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. DUST: Mud with the juice squeezed out. EGOTIST: Someone who is usually me-deep in conversation. GOSSIP: A person who will never tell a lie if the truth will do more damage. HANDKERCHIEF: Cold Storage. INFLATION: Cutting money in half without damaging the paper. MYTH: A female moth. MOSQUITO: An insect that makes you like flies better. RAISIN: Grape with a sunburn. SECRET: Something you tell to one person at a time. SKELETON: A bunch of bones with the person scraped off. TOOTHACHE: The pain that drives you to extraction. TOMORROW: One of the greatest labor saving devices of today. YAWN: An honest opinion openly expressed. WRINKLES: Something other people have. I have character lines. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: and *your* library
>> http://www.msnbc.com/news/930166.asp?vts=3D062320031215&cp1=3D1 > Steph > In favour of 100% free speech, including looking at pornography if I want to. And I would 'defend to the death' your right to do so'. The same way I would defend your right not to be distracted by explicit and perhaps 'unhibited ?' sex practices on the screen next to mine if you would be ? could be ? upset at seeing a body like yours used some 'other' way than the one/ones you may accept/permit/ welcome *in privacy* . . . As would the mothers of pre-schoolers who also 'have a right' to use the library computers with/for their children . . . The article also pointed out that a request *can* be made for whatever one wants to see, and the librarian will adapt the filter. Just as one can request *any* book in the library system. Toni in Seattle To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: and *your* library
> And in library school we were **required** to > look through a collection of **real** pornography (not Playboy, for > sure!) -- so we would know what we talk about. > Carolyn So I'll ask somebody who's "been trained" : both movies and stills ? violence-in-action ? snuff films disguised as pornography ? Toni in Seattle To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: English/Gordon Bennett
Thank you for Jean, Tamara and others for their replies about Gordon Bennett. I wonder if the phrase is used in other parts of the world or is strictly used by Brits and ex-pats? Janice -- Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA A mistake is simply another way of doing things. Katherine Graham To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace-chat] Re: and *your* library
Actually, T, those filters are apparently rather difficult to turn off when the connection in a library is through a large network (as is the case for most libraries now). Even when they can be easily turned off, it isn't all that easy for the librarians hustling around with people waiting in line, turning filters on and off. Of course, you and I probably use small libraries where it is less of a problem. Lots of people also don't know that they can ask. Not to mention embarrassed. But the justices say we have no constitutional right to be protected from embarrassment at our library. ;-) I'm with Steph, myself. And in library school we were **required** to look through a collection of **real** pornography (not Playboy, for sure!) -- so we would know what we talk about. Regards, Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Stow, MA USA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tamara P. Duvall > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:21 PM > To: Arachne chat > Subject: [lace-chat] Re: and *your* library > > > On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 16:44 US/Eastern, Steph Peters wrote: > > >> I don't want to see porn on the web > > > But would you want to be able to research breast cancer, or > your male > > friends and relatives to be able to research testicular cancer? > > I would be, since the filters can and are supposed to be > turned off on > request... So, everything is still available. > > > In favour of 100% free speech, including looking at pornography if I > > want to. > > But that's the point -- you still *can*, if you want to. But > it's less > likely to slap you in the face if you don't. > > > Tamara P Duvall > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lexington, Virginia, USA > Formerly of Warsaw, Poland > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing > the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: and *your* library
On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 16:44 US/Eastern, Steph Peters wrote: I don't want to see porn on the web But would you want to be able to research breast cancer, or your male friends and relatives to be able to research testicular cancer? I would be, since the filters can and are supposed to be turned off on request... So, everything is still available. In favour of 100% free speech, including looking at pornography if I want to. But that's the point -- you still *can*, if you want to. But it's less likely to slap you in the face if you don't. Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: How a Bill becomes Law, home style
From: R.P. HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW Copyright 2001 W. Bruce Cameron http://www.wbrucecameron.com/ The following steps trace the process by which a paternal proclamation becomes law in the Cameron household. Step One: The father of the house issues an executive order that all Saturday activities will be suspended until the garage is cleaned up. Step Two: The children form a committee and produce a report finding the order totally unconstitutional because it violates the "Cruel and Unusual" clause. Step Three: The committee report is voided by paternal declaration. Step Four: The ruling is appealed under the "This is stupid nobody else has to do this kind of stuff" doctrine of the "Equal Protection" clause. Specific examples are cited of other children who are not cleaning their garages. Step Five: The "nobody else has to" doctrine is rejected as having no bearing on the case. Step Six: Each child petitions separately for the relief under the "why do I have to do it none of it is my junk" theory. Step Seven: The father rules that the individuals of the household are a family, that the junk in the garage belongs to the family, and that the family has the responsibility of cleaning it up. Step Eight: The children attempt to stay the executive order by evading subpoena. Step Nine: The father retrieves the children from their bedrooms and declares notice properly served. Step Ten: The children plead pre-existing obligations that preempt the paternal proclamation. The oldest is due at the mall, the middle child has to go to a soccer game, and the youngest is yeah me too. Step Eleven: Clarification is sought from the youngest on which of the two lame excuses is yeah me too: soccer game or the mall? Step Twelve: The youngest says the soccer game. Step Thirteen: The father rules the soccer game cannot preempt the garage cleanup. Step Fourteen: The youngest says I meant the mall. Step Fifteen: The father rules the mall cannot preempt the garage cleanup. Step Sixteen: The children pass a resolution that the father is the meanest man in the world. Step Seventeen: The father agrees to accept the "meanest man" amendment and calls for an end to the debate. Step Eighteen: The children submit an emergency appeal on the grounds that there might be mice living in the garage. Step Nineteen: The father issues an executive decree that he has authority over all rodents and that there are no mice in the garage. Step Twenty: The children move for dismissal, claiming they are exempt because they have homework to do. Step Twenty-One: The father consults the official Cameron family calendar and determines there is another day left in the weekend in which homework can be done. Step Twenty-two: The children file a grievance with the Supreme Court of the house: their mother. A restraining order is sought prohibiting enforcement of the father's executive order on the grounds that he never listens, he is ruining our lives, he's mean, and if he really wants the garage cleaned up why doesn't he do it himself. Step Twenty-Three: A constitutional crisis is averted when the wife hands down a decision supporting the father's right to order the children to clean up the garage. Step Twenty-four: The children declare themselves no longer members of the family. As stateless persons, they are not subject to parental authority. Step Twenty-five: The father agrees to expedite the emigration of each child on the date they achieve their majorities. Until the parents are released by the laws of the State of Colorado from their obligations, however, the family members are stuck with each other. Meanwhile, the father identifies further sanctions to be imposed upon delay of compliance with his order, including suspension of telephone privileges. Step Twenty-six: The teenagers file a brief equating telephone cut-off with capital punishment. Step Twenty-seven: The father further suspends all use of the family automobile until the garage is cleaned up enough to park the car in it. Step Twenty-eight: The children petition for relief from further sanctions by agreeing to clean up the garage. Thus, with these simple 28 steps, a bill moves through the checks and balances and becomes law. It may not be the best system, but it's the only one we've got. - Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Sneakers/Trainers
Ooooh! yes! I'd forgotten "Daps". For some reason my older brother used to call them "daps" sometimes.we lived not all that far from Wales (in Keynsham, halfway between Bristol and Bath) but it was before the bridges made it easier to get there. Maybe it was a term he picked up at school - maybe from a teacher from Wales? Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Carol Adkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:We used to call those white plimsoles "daps" at home in Wales - does anyone else remember them being called that, or was that a *very* local word? http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Sneakers
It's Wimbledon Fortnight - two weeks of wall-to-wall televised tennis played on grass. Not my cup of tea, but I did switch on the TV for something else just in time to catch John McEnroe, who's now commentating for the BBC, saying that the grass was damp and causing the players to slide on their sneakers. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: and *your* library
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:13:29 -0400, Tamara wrote: >On Monday, Jun 23, 2003, at 23:17 US/Eastern, Toni Hawryluk wrote: > >> There's free ? speech ? >> >> http://www.msnbc.com/news/930166.asp?vts=3D062320031215&cp1=3D1 > >I don't want to see porn on the web But would you want to be able to research breast cancer, or your male friends and relatives to be able to research testicular cancer? Filters are very crude tools. They falsely identify sites as porn that aren't. They are also not totally effective - some porn sites will get past. So filters don't achieve the ends desired by those who impose them, and prevent access to non-pornographic information about health. Steph In favour of 100% free speech, including looking at pornography if I want to. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] new demime feature
This is partly a test and partly an announcement. Panix has installed a new program, "demime" and I've asked for the lace lists to be set up to use it. All html email to the lists should now be automatically converted to text in a useful way. I've arranged to have backups of the original email saved for a while, so if you see a post that looks badly wrong from what you think you sent, please let me know and I'll check into it. This should cut down on the workload for Avital, who's been very gracious about the extra duty while we worked on a better solution. -Liz To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Pam's Itinerary so far
Dearest Spiders, A number of you have pointed out to me that I have not yet shared the itinerary of my big London trip. There are a number of reasons why I haven't yet, ranging from many things still being up in the air, to having an extremely hard time with my latest chemotherapy. But, I'm feeling slightly better today, so I'll tell what I know so far. I should be leaving here (Seattle) on August 3, arriving in London on August 4. Since I got such a good deal on my hotel room (Holiday Inn Kensington Forum), as long as I booked it all together, I booked the room for 22 nights. I'll take day trips elsewhere, and if I wind up overnighting somewhere else one night, I'll still have saved more than enough on my London room to come out ahead. I will have the first part of my trip to be alone...or at least to travel alone. In other words, I'm free to meet with anyone who wants to meet with me, without having to worry about boring a husband. On the other hand, David is quite good about being bored by "Pam-stuff", so if anyone wants to meet with us both (or it is convenient only after he arrives), don't let that stop you. David will be joining me on August 16 (our 23rd anniversary), if things work out as they are supposed to, early in the day. We will see whatever I haven't seen on my own, or put off until we're together. Then, we get picked up at our hotel on August 26, driven to Southampton, and we board the Queen Elizabeth II, arriving in New York on September 1. David and I *still* haven't been able to decide whether to come straight home, or to spend a day or two in New York to see my cousins. Either way, we need to decide soon, so I can book our flight, whenever it's going to be! So that's my so-called itinerary, so far. I have a long list of places I want to see, a bunch of guidebooks and maps, and figure I'll start at the top of the list when I get there, and see where I am when David joins me! Pam Dotson Everett, WA USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Sneakers/Trainers
my friend from Bristol used to call them "daps" too - so were you in South Wales? Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Sneakers/Trainers
We used to call those white plimsoles "daps" at home in Wales - does anyone else remember them being called that, or was that a *very* local word? I have to say, I still sometimes call them daps, especially when taking the grandchildren for their summer 'jelly' shoes, and the 'daps' for running about in!They have their proper school sandals, but they are allowed the canvas shoes for the beach. Carol - in a warm and dry Suffolk, UK. - Original Message - From: "Anne & Michael Godfrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lace chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Re: Sneakers/Trainers To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] secret pals
Dear secret pal Your package arrived today, and what a lovely surprise I had when I opened it. What a lovely American sewing case - it will be greatly treasured and a constant reminder of my first secret pal, and a great place for keeping all my lace paraphernalia in. I found the tin of sweets too, they didn't last long Brian (my DH) and I enjoyed them, I shall most likely use the tin for keeping pins in. The bath bomb soak will be an enjoyable way to relax after my last class this week! Much as I enjoy teaching my lace classes, it can get tiring especially getting closer to the end of term and everyone wants to start off new projects to keep them going through the summer, and we finish three weeks early this term as we're off on holiday soon. Thank you so much and I hope all goes well, I can empathise with you. Nickyin sunny Suffolk To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: A magnificent mess: English!
As a child I had 3 years of speech therapy for a similar problem. Today, I still cannot say some words and simply avoid the words. I feel sorry for the German Girl. I could not say "th" "st" or some complicated words before the therapy. When I was in my 40's I met a person who was an actor on stage. Gorgeous man with a musical voice. However, after the performance, I found out that he stammered - very badly. I later learned from him that if you hear a word that you cannot say you can "parrot" the word correctly. As such, I have "learned" to say words that I could never say before. Andrea Sommers In Las Vegas - Original Message - From: "Malvary Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Arachne chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: A magnificent mess: English! > < Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough? > Hiccough has the sound of cup. > My advice is to give up!!!>> > > This verse reminded me of summer meal times when we were growing up. One > year I remember in particular, we had a German girl staying and grammar was > very much a part of meal times, as well as correct pronunciation. Because > she could not pronounce words with "th" she always had to carefully > enunciate and would practice where to put her tongue so that it came out as > "th" and not "z". We also taught her the various pronuncations and words > ending in ough, but could not explain why they were different. > > Malvary, where summer is finally creeping in and I might get to use my > newly installed air conditioning one of these days > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] E-Bay Item
This was accidentally sent directly a member of the list as a response to his E-mail and should have been the list entirely: I haven't seen pins like that in years. We had some just like that - even same colors - in the US for putting into your hair rollers to keep them from rolling off your head when you went to sleep. This takes me back to my teen years - far tooo many to count. Of course, you also have a needle punch and a loop holder (don't know the exact term) for removing knitting from the main needle until you have done the other stitches you are doing about this part (such as doing cables). Don't know what the pick is for unless it is just a pick. Have no idea what the spool is for unless it is just a used spool. Andrea Sommers In Las Vegas where the weather has been cooler than normal! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Wood-burning fireplaces
Ooooh Ruth, I've got Gumption too, I guess I will divide the glass into three and let you know which works best, of course good old elbow grease is always involved. Lynn in Cobargo To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Wood-burning fireplaces
Thanks for the advice, and if it warms up enough tomorrow, I will let the fireplace go cold so I can clean the windows. I kept out both the window cleaner and baking soda, perhaps I will do a comparison test. Lynn Scott, Cobargo, Australia, where the next big challenge is deciding septic or envirocycle. Somedays I wish we were moving back to the city where all is built. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] HP
I too finished Harry Potter last night ( DD1 got the book from Amazon first thing Sat am - guess who had to get up to answer the postman's knock??? then DS went to Tesco and paid less for a copy there!). Still not sure how I feel about it. Definately dark, and as a mother of two teeneagers and one just 'over' I certainly recognise the teenage woes! DD1 was swollen eyed last night from crying at the end!! as she was fond of the character who died. I'll reread and decide how I feel but it may be a bit too much for the younger readers. It'll be interesting to see how she moves on from this! So now it's back to the housework and hope the thread I'm waiting for arrives today so I can wind up to start my dragonfly edging! I have a snake pricking and threads to sort out for my new little lacemaker - a 9 year old! - before class tonight. Lynne Cumming Baldock, North Herts, Uk "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
