[lace-chat] True or false

2004-07-12 Thread Jean Nathan
Ruth wrote:

I've just heard on our radio station here in Australia that both the Daily
Telegraph and the BBC are reporting that Britain is about to get a law
forbidding cruelty to worms, slugs and snails!  A fine of 25,000 pounds, and
up
to 12 months gaol is promised for those caught causing cruelty to these
sorts
of garden pests!!!

It's true - sort of. A new animal cruelty law has been drafted, and as it
stands we could be prosecuted for cruelty to worms, slugs and snails because
they haven't been excluded. But the bill is in it's draft stage, and the
final one will be more detailed so that nonsense can be weeded out.

It's a complicated issue because, for instance, we can at the moment be
prosecuted for cruelty to hedgehogs - is a person guilty of cruelty to a
hedgehog if he puts down pellets to kill slugs and a poisoned slug is eaten
by the hedgehog which then also dies from poisoning?

We are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers, but when you hear that over
the weekend the body of a pet cat was found (and I do mean the body) which
had been killed by someone chopping off its head and tail, then we need
animal cruelty laws.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/11/nslug11.xml;
sSheet=/portal/2004/07/11/ixportal.html

Jean in Poole

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Re: [lace-chat] True or false

2004-07-12 Thread Linda Walton
Jean in Poole wrote:-

 . . .  we need
 animal cruelty laws
(for reasons given).

We also need them because it is a way to catch career criminals early.

It is becoming widely recognised that animal cruelty is frequently the first
step on the way to far worse crimes against children and adults.  So please,
always report such things:  don't just walk away in exasperation because
it's only an animal.

Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.,
who is leaving on Thursday to visit her sister, a retired forensic
scientist).

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[lace-chat] makers of lace

2004-07-12 Thread Helene Gannac
Bev Walker wrote:
Without editors, writers are nothing but makers of lace

Having got over my surprise, I pondered on it for a while then decided
that maybe to a non-lacemaker this remark couly insulting to lacemakers.

Insulting as we think of it but perhaps not so in the class sense - makers
of lace not begin particularly highly paid, nor particularly in charge of
their craft (that is to say someone else did the designing, and it would
seem the collecting and paying) - supposing the author was considering
'makers of lace' as 'writers' - gainfully occupied

I thought she meant that writers are nothing but makers of fluff, or
froth, in the sense that lace is full of air and not useful, so a writer
without an editor would only be writing a lot of nonsense. Anyone else
thought the same?

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, very relieved to find a lace and
lace-chat digests in her mailbox after the shock of going back to work on
monday and finding...none!! I thought our security system had thrown them
out as spam...Aaargh!!


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[lace-chat] secret pal thanks

2004-07-12 Thread Helene Gannac
dear Secret Pal from Italy,

I started work at 12.30 noon today, so was stuill at home when the postman
brought your parcel. What luck!! I was able to open it immediately and
have one of thopse delicious almond biscuit for lunch. Thank you!
I love the box and its green tartan, quite an unusual colour. I don't
think the green thread you sent would go with that, but I love that bright
green and will certainly use it to make some lace. I've already made
several green pieces of lace, including my Lacemakers Census bit, which is
green and gold according to the official colours of Australia. I've got to
make several bookmarks or little doylies for Christmas, so it will be just
the right colour.
I also like the pair of bobbins, thank you, I don't have any of those
Spanish bobbins. But Spanish bobbins???You seem to be very cosmopolitan!!
Idrija lace patterns, Spanish bobbins, English threadI wonder who you
are!
I was intrigued to hear about your plans to come to Australia. Are you
emigrating, or just coming for a holiday? Where do you think you will
settle? You will let me know of course if you come to Melbourne!! or even
somewhere else, we have lacemakers in every State who will be happy to
welcome you.
Looking forward to your next parcel and news,

Your delighted secret pal (the not secret part :-))

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne

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