[lace-chat] Dishwashers
Margery wrote: I used to teach some aspects of consumer law and the chains sometimes use a perfectly legal ploy to get round the "We'll match the price" promise. Some manufacturers of appliances agree to put a different model number on appliances for different chains. So you see what looks to you exactly the same model cheaper in one chain than another, but the dearer chain won't match the price because they say it's a different model. It happens less than it did because of consumer forums and because manufacturers are often happy to provide manuals or communicate with customers via the web. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Dishwashers soap
Devon wrote: > I would like a dishwasher that I don't have to manually clean out the > filter on because of both the ick factor and the bad back factor (Bosch > seems to > require this.). However, many of the better, or at least more expensive > ones do not have an automatic disposer in them, thus requiring manual > clean-out. This is counter intuitive, but there it is. We were having water leak out of our dishwasher (a moveable one) and I started using Cascade Complete. I think it may take care of the gunk that can build up. I may be wrong though I still use it and no water leakibng and no gunk to clean out. Jane in Vermont, USA jvik...@sover.net To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately
Hi All, I haven't gotten to read all the mail about dishwashers but I asked DH's opinion last night. He's a Master Plumber (licensed, not me exaggerating ). He said he has heard Bosch is the best these days. I see a few other people have mentioned Bosch. They make many of his best tools. And he said there are only a few companies that make dishwashsers and they're sold under different names. He would "expect" to get 20 years out of one. We just replaced our refridgerator and found it was in the house when we bought the house. Only lasted 36 years! Needless to say the electric bill has gone down dramatically. Jane in Vermont, USA wherer there are a few yellow leaves on the trees and lots of bare branches. jvik...@sover.net To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Baby Boomer Quiz - 15
Jaquie You should have persevered. While I agreed with your general comments even a non Beatles fan like me could identify the Christian names of the four Beatles ;-) I managed 10 right and one or two of those were complete guesses. Glad to see you are safely home from Newport. hope you had a good drive back. Patricia in Wales scotl...@aol.com To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
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RE: [lace-chat] Dishwashers
Linda Walton wrote: > John Lewis have always used their famous slogan, "never > knowingly undersold". If you find the same thing for sale > more cheaply anywhere else, they will match the price: > I've tested this, and it's true. "Value for money" is > not the same as "cheapest". By the way, > this is not the same as the "never knowingly undersold" > sevice offered by retailers such as Curry's. I was told, (by a senior > person with the Citizen's Advice Bureau, but some time ago - > so the policy may have changed), that you have to prove that > the price you've found elsewhere is for exactly the same model. > The trick is that the retailers have a deal with the > manufacturers to produce models especially for them, (usually > a very basic model), with its own exclusive model number. I had an experience with Curry's. I chose a Philips iron from their display; it was marked at £45. It was "out of stock" and they wouldn't sell me the display model. Just as well, in the end - I went to Comet (almost next door) and found the exact same model of iron priced at £60. The Comet salesman rang up Curry's to confirm model number and price, and sold me the iron for £45 minus £4.50 - price match and 10% of the difference! So I paid £40.50. In future I'll shop around and then look in Comet . They were very willing to help, and seemed perfectly happy with the arrangement. Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = > -Original Message- > From: owner-lace-c...@arachne.com > [mailto:owner-lace-c...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of > Sent: Sunday 07 November 2010 09:19 > To: Lace Chat > Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Dishwashers > > dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: > [snip] > > > > One thing that you can deduce from the Consumer Affairs complaint > bureau is that there is no misery greater than an appliance > that is a > lemon from the day you get it, and that if you are unlucky enough to > get one of these, you will be shunned by the manufacturer > and lied to > by repairmen who tell you you have misused the appliance by > having your > water too hot. too cold, or too hard, the wrong kind of > detergent, or > dishes that are not sufficiently dirty. All repairs will > cost as much > as a new dishwasher. Meanwhile, other people will be > deliriously happy > with the same appliance. > > I'm horrified at the thought of finding myself in this position. The > way we get round it is to buy through a retailer who has the > strength to > stand up to the manufacturers and the repairers, and the > motivation to > maintain their own reputation for quality service by doing so. After > all, you might only buy a limited number of items from any > manufacturer > in your lifetime, while a national retailer could buy thousands over > many years. In our case, we go to John Lewis, from whom we > have bought > all the domestic machines I mentioned in my earlier post, as > well as our > fridge/freezer and gas cooker, (and television and my laptop, among > other gadgets). > > The only thing that has ever given us a problem was the fridge, which > went wrong in the first weeks. It also had an alarm that went off > whenever the internal temperature of the fridge or the freezer > compartment was too warm. This alarm would go off at any time of the > day or night, and we had to leave it sounding because the only way to > stop it was to turn off the whole thing, thus ruining the > food stored in > the compartment that was still working at the right temperature, but > leavin it on ruined our sleep. Since the fridge freezer was > still well > inside the shop's (legally required, I think - not paid for > by us), two > year guarantee period, they sent round repair people at once > and without > charge. On the third time this happened, they simply offered > to replace > it. We accepted their offer, and received a bigger, better > fridge/freezer the next day, with no extra charges at all. > Last year, > when a part in the fridge's works wore out, we went back to > the repair > company used by John Lewis, since they had proved themselves > honest and > reliable. They found the problem and fixed it on the spot, > and we have > had no further trouble. > > This kind of service is not reflected in the price we paid for the > goods. John Lewis have always used their famous slogan, "never > knowingly undersold". If you find the same thing for sale > more cheaply > anywhere else, they will match the price: I've tested this, and it's > true. "Value for money" is not the same as "cheapest". By the way, > this is not the same as the "never knowingly undersold" > sevice offered > by retailers such as Curry's. I was told, (by a senior > person with the > Citizen's Advice Bureau, but some time ago - so the policy may have > changed), that you have
[lace-chat] Baby boomer quiz
David said "This is NOT a pushover test. It's a Baby Boomer era test!" And probably specifically an AUS or US one at that! I guessed "Remember one Flick and they're gone" because it made most sense, but have no idea where it cames from. Never heard of "Get with the strength bank on â¦â¦.. (the Wales) or "Guess whose Mumâs" (got a Whirlpool) At that point I gave up. "Guess whose Mum goes to Iceland" is a relatively recent UK ad, but that wasn't an option! Jacquie To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone bought a good dishwasher lately
He is also pretty good with the vacuum cleaner, but don't ask him to cook. Agnes Of course, what Agnes fails to mention in her comments about dishwashers is Her dishwasher makes coffee Her dishwasher can wash hair sometimes Her dishwasher walks the dog AND her dishwasher turns lace bobbins!!! Now that's the sort of model you need!!! Sue in EY On 6 Nov 2010, at 09:49, Agnes Boddington wrote: I have a perfect dishwasher, and have had it for 31 years. To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] Pub food
Lynne said "I asked my daughter the other day did they cook from fresh and the reply was that salads and chips were made fresh... " Define fresh, Lynne, or ask your daughter to :-) Many pubs cook their chips "fresh" from the bag of frozen chips. And the majority of frozen chips already have some seasoning on. One time Malvary was in the UK we looked at every variety available in Sainburys and there wasn't one brand or variety she could eat. I would define fresh chips as ones that are potatoes in the same kitchen, but most pubs cooking on a budget don't have the time to do the prep work, or for the extended cooking that's needed from raw. And when we do find somewhere that cooks from raw, we than have to check they will be served unseasoned, as a lot of places add pepper as standard even if they pass on the salt for the sake of our blood pressure. Jacquie in Lincolnshire To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Dishwashers
dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:
[snip]
>
> One thing that you can deduce from the Consumer Affairs complaint
bureau is that there is no misery greater than an appliance that is a
lemon from the day you get it, and that if you are unlucky enough to
get one of these, you will be shunned by the manufacturer and lied to
by repairmen who tell you you have misused the appliance by having your
water too hot. too cold, or too hard, the wrong kind of detergent, or
dishes that are not sufficiently dirty. All repairs will cost as much
as a new dishwasher. Meanwhile, other people will be deliriously happy
with the same appliance.
I'm horrified at the thought of finding myself in this position. The
way we get round it is to buy through a retailer who has the strength to
stand up to the manufacturers and the repairers, and the motivation to
maintain their own reputation for quality service by doing so. After
all, you might only buy a limited number of items from any manufacturer
in your lifetime, while a national retailer could buy thousands over
many years. In our case, we go to John Lewis, from whom we have bought
all the domestic machines I mentioned in my earlier post, as well as our
fridge/freezer and gas cooker, (and television and my laptop, among
other gadgets).
The only thing that has ever given us a problem was the fridge, which
went wrong in the first weeks. It also had an alarm that went off
whenever the internal temperature of the fridge or the freezer
compartment was too warm. This alarm would go off at any time of the
day or night, and we had to leave it sounding because the only way to
stop it was to turn off the whole thing, thus ruining the food stored in
the compartment that was still working at the right temperature, but
leavin it on ruined our sleep. Since the fridge freezer was still well
inside the shop's (legally required, I think - not paid for by us), two
year guarantee period, they sent round repair people at once and without
charge. On the third time this happened, they simply offered to replace
it. We accepted their offer, and received a bigger, better
fridge/freezer the next day, with no extra charges at all. Last year,
when a part in the fridge's works wore out, we went back to the repair
company used by John Lewis, since they had proved themselves honest and
reliable. They found the problem and fixed it on the spot, and we have
had no further trouble.
This kind of service is not reflected in the price we paid for the
goods. John Lewis have always used their famous slogan, "never
knowingly undersold". If you find the same thing for sale more cheaply
anywhere else, they will match the price: I've tested this, and it's
true. "Value for money" is not the same as "cheapest". By the way,
this is not the same as the "never knowingly undersold" sevice offered
by retailers such as Curry's. I was told, (by a senior person with the
Citizen's Advice Bureau, but some time ago - so the policy may have
changed), that you have to prove that the price you've found elsewhere
is for exactly the same model. The trick is that the retailers have a
deal with the manufacturers to produce models especially for them,
(usually a very basic model), with its own exclusive model number. My
C.A.B. friend also warned me that they had more complaints about the
service received from Curry's than about any other - again, it was quite
a while ago, so this may have changed. (But I doubt it.)
So - my message is: get the power of a bigger, stronger outfit to help
you, and reward them by buying your goods through them. When we wanted
to add more insulation to our home, I was desperate to avoid the
situation of my neighbour. When she had cavity wall insulation and loft
insulation put in, the clumsy installers damaged her outside wall and
fell through her bedroom ceiling - and she had to argue for months
before they would do any repairs. So I went to Marks and Spencer's.
After all, any company with a contract with M&S has a lot more
motivation to do a good job and correct problems quickly than a company
with a contract with me alone!
Wishing you all the very best of luck with all your household buys,
Linda Walton,
(in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K, where it's a calm morning and
the sky the delightful pale blue of a hen's egg, {the Old Cotswold
Legbar egg I'm boiling for my breakfast}. But although we're promised
"heavy rain and severe gales" next week, I'm tucked up safe with a cosy
lace pillow - hope you are too!).
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