Re: [lace-chat] May flower

2004-05-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
we are wondering about the tree itself. It must be significant,
thinking of the ship, the Mayflower; the rhyme 'gathering nuts and 
May'
Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) where we had May flowers in 
April,
and April showers right now in May...
I think the line is actually gather nuts in May - I found this at
http://www.geocities.com/traditions_uk/mayday.html in a Google search:
Here we go gathering nuts in May... always puzzled me as a child. 
NUTS - in MAY?? Quite
ridiculous. There is, of course, a simple explanation. It was 
originally knots of May - a
reference to the custom of gathering flowers as part of the 
celebrations, particularly May blossom,
the flower of the Hawthorn (Crataegus monogyna) which usually comes 
into blossom around the end of
April. This custom of Maying was (and is some places still is) very 
widespread - fortunately the
Hawthorn is a very common shrub and a distinctive feature of the 
English countryside.
Yes, 'gathering nuts in May' is a corruption of 'gathering knots of 
May' - stems of hawthorn in full bloom; masses of it around in the 
hedgerows of England at this time of year.  The flowers are small and 
white.  The point ground filling probably got it's name from the 
resemblance; though the flowers have five petals and the patches of 
cloth stitch in the PG filling are diamond shaped.  Similar sort of 
size.

The other traditional saying is 'March winds, April showers, bring 
forth May flowers.'  Not sure if that relates to hawthorn blossom or 
flowers generally which bloom in May.

Brenda in England where we are still getting the showers.
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Re: [lace-chat] May flower

2004-05-07 Thread Judy McCarty
Are you talking about a multi-flora rose?  We have this plant in great
abundance in Southern Illinois as well as elsewhere.

It grows like a weed.  The awful thing about it is the thorns grow backwards
on the branches, which grow to incredible lengths.  We just spent two days
pulling branches up to as much as 7-8 feet in length out of a cedar tree.
When these backward thorns grab you (and they do it no matter how careful
you are about moving them) the natural tendency to pull them out only imbeds
them deeper.

May flowers as I know them down here are only about 6-8 inches tall with
about 5 leaves in a circular pattern.  The flower is white with a yellowish
center.

Am I off track or is the old multi-flora rose (like Brer Rabbit in the
briar patch) what you are referring to?  So far, we have not had a problem
with festering.  However, we do take a shower after we come in from working.
This is an effort to avoid the poison ivy that we have probably encountered
as well.

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Re: [lace-chat] May flower

2004-05-07 Thread W N Lafferty
From: Judy McCarty
 Are you talking about a multi-flora rose?  We have this plant in great
 abundance in Southern Illinois as well as elsewhere.
 It grows like a weed.  The awful thing about it is the thorns grow backwards
 on the branches, which grow to incredible lengths.  We just spent two days
 pulling branches up to as much as 7-8 feet in length out of a cedar tree.

We have a line of cyprus trees across a side and back fence.  One has 
a climbing rose right through it, another is home to a wisteria (?spelling) 
growing up from a neighbour's garden.  Doesn't seem to interfere with
the growth of the cyprus.

I must have the only pink and mauve flowering cyprus trees in existence.

Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace-chat] May flower

2004-05-07 Thread Bev Walker
ah thanks Noelene - '*knots of* May' does make more sense...then you
reminded me that Mayflower and Hawthorn are names for the same thing...

-- 
bye for now
Bev with no Hawthorn or May growing where I live west of Sooke, BC (west
coast of Canada) (though there is probably a Mayflower or two somewhere in
Sooke itself, brought when the English arrived).

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