Re: [lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-17 Thread spindexr
Why are you surprised? The archives at mail-archive.com are public. It was the 
easiest way to get free archives, since so many Arachnes were opposed to moving 
to yahoo groups and, as moderator, not list owner,  I don't have admin rights 
to the majordomo server and can't install something like MonArch.

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From: Lynn Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am not worried about stalkers, etc., but I did google my 
 maiden name,
 and came up with the lace-chat quiz that I answered when I first 
 signed up
 to Arachne, that sort of surprised me.
 
 Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-17 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 17/07/2005 02:31:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

that is  a good idea.  i have sent a few resume's and applications
online, but  i never got a call for the job until i brought in an hand
written  application and a printed out resume straight to the company. i
did find a  house online, which i thought was great because i had to
relocate for  school.  it worked out nice enough, but the neighbors were
not so  good.  they wouldn't have been any better if i had shown up in
person  and found a different house, so i can't blame any internet
misconfusion  with that. 
 
In the uk there is a big usage of the web for recruitment.  The Reed  website 
is used by all major recruiters and you post your details on there with  your 
cv, then reputable recruiters who subscribe to the service can post jobs  and 
have access to you.  It is very big bussiness and the main way in  looking 
for a new job now.

 
Regards

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-17 Thread susan
that would be nice.  our unemployment offices have the same system, and
it is the only way to look into jobs through them.  you fill out an
application, put your resume on line, and then they give you a list of
job types you qualify for.  from there you get a list of jobs available
that you might want to apply for.  

it would work great every where not associated with the unemployment
office, but you have so many different websites and no official
website, that they are not updated and show no positions available any
where.  even if you search the job bank without using your own
information, they show no jobs available in every job catagory.  i've
found about 3 of these sights.  it would be easy and free for people
looking for employers instead of paying to put an add in the news
papers to put an add on one of those sights.  



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 17/07/2005 02:31:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 that is  a good idea.  i have sent a few resume's and applications
 online, but  i never got a call for the job until i brought in an
 hand
 written  application and a printed out resume straight to the
 company. i
 did find a  house online, which i thought was great because i had to
 relocate for  school.  it worked out nice enough, but the neighbors
 were
 not so  good.  they wouldn't have been any better if i had shown up
 in
 person  and found a different house, so i can't blame any internet
 misconfusion  with that. 
  
 In the uk there is a big usage of the web for recruitment.  The Reed 
 website 
 is used by all major recruiters and you post your details on there
 with  your 
 cv, then reputable recruiters who subscribe to the service can post
 jobs  and 
 have access to you.  It is very big bussiness and the main way in 
 looking 
 for a new job now.
 
  
 Regards
 
 Liz in London
 
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-16 Thread Thelacebee
In a message dated 14/07/2005 23:01:51 GMT Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i'm not  paranoid about it.  there are about 3000 or more people with my
exact  name all over the united states.  i also did what another  arachne
member did and put my last name in where it kept printing up in  my
email.  i had no idea my last name came up everytime i sent an  email. 
but it would not be very responsible to encourage someone to put  their
first and last name in any email.  


I have a variety of email accounts for different things.  I, the  Aussie and 
my father have email accounts which are our names.  These are  used for 
personal emails and things like when I'm job hunting as they are easy  for 
recruiters and friends to remember.
 
Then I have accounts like this one thelacebee which is  descriptive of what I 
use it for but completely anonymous as to who I am.   This is what I use for 
email lists and chat.
 
In addition, on aol I don't fill in too much on the personal data info  pages 
as people scan those when you are on line and try and chat to you - I also  
have blocks on for chat as well and IMs
 
It's a simple but effect way of doing it.
 
 

 
Regards

Liz in London

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-16 Thread susan
that is a good idea.  i have sent a few resume's and applications
online, but i never got a call for the job until i brought in an hand
written application and a printed out resume straight to the company. i
did find a house online, which i thought was great because i had to
relocate for school.  it worked out nice enough, but the neighbors were
not so good.  they wouldn't have been any better if i had shown up in
person and found a different house, so i can't blame any internet
misconfusion with that. 

as far as the personal data internet applications for websites and chat
forums ask for, i try my best to be vague, but some require names and 
addresses.  they don't and never would display the information, but
they do have it on file.  i think that is for shopping purposes on
most, but some forums do ask for an  application.  that must be to
avoid flamers.  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 14/07/2005 23:01:51 GMT Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 i'm not  paranoid about it.  there are about 3000 or more people with
 my
 exact  name all over the united states.  i also did what another 
 arachne
 member did and put my last name in where it kept printing up in  my
 email.  i had no idea my last name came up everytime i sent an 
 email. 
 but it would not be very responsible to encourage someone to put 
 their
 first and last name in any email.  
 
 
 I have a variety of email accounts for different things.  I, the 
 Aussie and 
 my father have email accounts which are our names.  These are  used
 for 
 personal emails and things like when I'm job hunting as they are easy
  for 
 recruiters and friends to remember.
  
 Then I have accounts like this one thelacebee which is  descriptive
 of what I 
 use it for but completely anonymous as to who I am.   This is what I
 use for 
 email lists and chat.
  
 In addition, on aol I don't fill in too much on the personal data
 info  pages 
 as people scan those when you are on line and try and chat to you - I
 also  
 have blocks on for chat as well and IMs
  
 It's a simple but effect way of doing it.
  
  
 
  
 Regards
 
 Liz in London
 
 I'm back _blogging_ (http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee) 
 my 
 latest lace  piece - have a look by clicking on the link or going to 
 _http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee_ 
 (http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee) 
 
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Re: [lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-16 Thread Lynn Scott
I am not worried about stalkers, etc., but I did google my maiden name,
and came up with the lace-chat quiz that I answered when I first signed up
to Arachne, that sort of surprised me.

Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia

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[lace-chat] Re: dangers of giving address

2005-07-14 Thread susan
i'm not paranoid about it.  there are about 3000 or more people with my
exact name all over the united states.  i also did what another arachne
member did and put my last name in where it kept printing up in my
email.  i had no idea my last name came up everytime i sent an email. 
but it would not be very responsible to encourage someone to put their
first and last name in any email.  

in the u.s. we hear of children getting raped and people getting
murdered all the time from people they met on the internet.  i'm not
trying to be gory, but i'm originally from detroit, michigan, u.s.a.
which at one time was the murder capital of the u.s.a., so i think it
was correct to keep citizens there warned and cautious, but not
paranoid.  even the best police officers in detroit would tell you it
is not any better to hide in your house and be paranoid. 

unfortunately we had one incident when i was in 6th grade where our
paperboy came up missing.  i am not liing, and you could look this up
in the detroit news newspaper archives in either 1981 or 1982 about the
incident or the detroit news television news casts archives.  the paper
boy's name was Kurt Cizio, he was a student at saint cundagunda
catholic school that was about 6 to 7 blocks from where i lived.  his
body was found 2 houses down from my grandmother's house and one city
block and 2 houses down from where i lived inside one of the neighbor's
house.  the man had strangeled the kid, raped his body, bathed him,
wrapped his body in a sheet, and put his body in the wall of his attic.
 

the whole time the police were searching for this boy by those houses
they heard him hammering away upstairs in his attic trying to close the
wall in to hide the body.  the police brought dogs in and and they
smelled out the boys footprints leading right to the man's front door
where he dropped his newspaper off and into the man's house from the
backdoor where he dragged the strangled boy in.  this wasn't caused
from the internet, but things like this happended all the time. 
detroit city had about 1 million people in it at the time, and there
was always something terrible going on.

we lived 4 or 5 blocks from where the prostitutes used to sell
themselves at on michigan avenue.  our neighborhood was close to the
railroad tracks and darker lit with street lights than other streets,
so the hookers would park in the cars with their johns, do their job,
and get out of the car and walk back to michigan avenue for another
one.  one day my brother was standing in the front of my mother's house
and a cop walked up out of no where and asked to borrow his bicycle. 
my brother agreed, and watched him ride by a parked van where he peeked
into the window, then radioed his partner and made an arrest right
there.  apparently a hooker had brought her john there and was caught. 
both people were arrested.  

i think most of this list is from small towns because you wouldn't ask
for information like full names of names of cities in new york city, or
chicago and not get an argument about how unsafe it could be.  not that
anyone has asked for anyones last name because they haven't.  i'm not
trying to scare anyone, but why leave opportunity for anything when you
can be safe with knowing already what is already known and no more. 
the u.s.a. is not a safe place to live and even in small towns there
are horrible crimes.  england must be a very safe place to live because
everyone seems to sherk and overlook the possibilities for a horrible
crime to happen.  that says a lot of good things about it, but the
u.s.a is not a good place to live and if you looked closer at the crime
rate in each city, you would see it is not a good place to take any
chance with your safety.  

not trying to scare anyone, and i know this is going to tick a lot of
people off, but you should talk to your local police stations and then
type the reaction and comments the police had to the suggestion to give
any information to anyone on the internet.

--- Helene Gannac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Susan wrote:
 i would especially be scared after the bombings both in the u.s.a.
 and
 london to put a name anywhere.  the way things are going we are going
 to all be walking around with gas masks in our pocket books next to
 pills that clean dirty water, foldable axes to cut out debree of
 fallen
 building matter, and a cyanide pill to kill ourselves with if we are
 taken captive .
 
 Dear Susan,
 
 please relax, I don't think anyone in the lacemaking world has got
 time to go
 and plant bombs around, we are too busy making lace :-). YOu don't
 have to give
 your full name on the net anyway. I often wonder why people put their
 full name
 as their email address, unless they are trading, and want people to
 know who
 they are. I don't think you've ever seen my full name, have you? I
 noticed your
 email address is not revealing everything about you either, so even
 if you live
 in a small town (and you can say instead you live near a well