[LARTC] Another sharing tehnique, is this possible ?

2002-08-17 Thread raptor 




hi,
(assume HTB)
I was thinking will it be possible to do some sort of UNFAIR-SHARING :), what I have 
in mind :

Say I have a internet link with 100kbits bandwith, then I want to share it between 
many clients (which will increase over time). Let's i start with 5 clients with rate = 
30kbits...
See the total bandwith of users is 120kbits but I have only 100kbits So where is 
the problem I want to describe their bandwith like

total 100kbits
 |__ user1 = rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits
 |__ user2 = rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits
 |__ user3 = rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits
 |__  .
 |__ userX = rate 30kbits, ceil 30kbits

U can say why I just don't calculate 100/5 = 20 and set for all users rate 20kbits, 
ceil 30kbits, 'cause i will add more users in the future and will need to calculate 
again and again this value... also some of them may want 30kbits other 10kbits etc
(it is ok for them to get lower rates 'cause the speed is ungaranteed the user are not 
online 24hours a day and of course when bandwith got used to the max it will upgraded 
to better speed)..

In fact what I want to say is : the max rate should be X but if the link is overused u 
will get lower speed ...??
One way this to be done is if I use something like this :

 rate 0 ceil desired-speed

but is this possible, or if not what is the lowest possible value 
- Will proirity have be taken into account so that i can say some should be served 
better than other ?
- the lower possible bandwith i will lend is 9600bps .. yes we have such speeds the 
price here is big :(

Thanx alot
raptor
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2002-08-17 Thread mikep02 

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:26:24 +0530
From: Arindam Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Julian Anastasov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hi julian
hi all
thanx to you all.. many doubts are now cleared.. the **NATing** 
soulution is ofcource a very steady one but am not able to convince my 
management for it !.. hopefully they will...
ys julian you r right :).. there were white spaces--it's patched 
perfectly now .. :) ..
to you all--- have a :) sunday..
:)
A.H

Julian Anastasov wrote:
   Hello,
 
 On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Arindam Haldar wrote:
 
 
after going thru the docs i find that with julians patch one needs to
**MASQUERADE** to the links... we dont want that !.. we want our real ip
to flow in these 2 links(real ip already being broadcasted on provider's
network)..
so my Question is--possible without **MASQUERADE** ??.. will the
setup(as shown in docs) loadbalance for our real ip's ?? ..
 
 
   Of course, it is possible ... and depends on how restrictive
 are your providers. But if one link fails you can have the problem
 of using sources for the failed link, then the replies from world
 will hit the failed provider and will not reach you. As result,
 your internal servers should know which source addresses to use
 according to the link state. The masquerade simply guarantees that
 one link is used only from addresses that are reachable from this
 link.
 
 
what other things i have to consider ?..
 
 
   As for applying the patches you need to download them
 correctly. More likely you have white space problem (try with
 patch -l).
 
 
Awaiting a reply very very anxiously..
A.H
 
 
 Regards
 
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Subject: Re: [LARTC] HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2
From: Jason Tackaberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alexey Talikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 16 Aug 2002 14:43:54 -0400

On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 01:46, Alexey Talikov wrote:
 I think in many cases HTB is more simple, power and beautiful
 than CBQ.

Not only that, but it _works_, which is pretty important for me. :)

I'm very happy to see it included into the main kernel.

Best,
Jason.

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:54:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amit Kucheria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [LARTC] HTB3 port for 2.2.18?

Hi all,

Is there an