[LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #728 - 11 msgs

2002-08-20 Thread mikep02


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Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
Softerware, Inc.

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[LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #726 - 11 msgs

2002-08-19 Thread mikep02


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Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
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[LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #723 - 10 msgs

2002-08-18 Thread mikep02


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Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
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[LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #725 - 2 msgs

2002-08-18 Thread mikep02

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afternoon, 8/26, and will reply then.

Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
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Subject: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #725 - 2 msgs
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Date: 08/19/02 01:27:39

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Today's Topics:

   1. VoIP and QoS (Patrick Chan)
   2. Re: filter in-cache traffic  with tc (Alexey Talikov)

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Message: 1
From: Patrick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:01:18 +0800
Subject: [LARTC] VoIP and QoS

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There are two Linux routers, a 64K leased line is used
to connect these two machines. Now, we would like to run
Voice over IP between two machines. We have to run QoS and 
tag voice packet's TOS field,
otherwise, the voice quality is terrible if we transfer file
and make voice call at the same time.

I am not familiar with tc in Linux. But I have copied a script
from LARTC archives. If the following config is used, the situation
is better than nothing used. The voice packets can be tagged as 
TOS=0x21:

tc qdisc add dev hdlc0 parent 1:1 handle 2: pfifo limit 512
tc qdisc add dev hdlc0 parent 1:2 handle 3: pfifo limit 512
tc qdisc add dev hdlc0 parent 1:3 handle 4: pfifo limit 512
tc filter add dev hdlc0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 u32 divisor 1
tc filter add dev hdlc0 parent 1:0 prio 1 u32 match ip tos 0x21 0xff flowid
1:1

I don't know what it means exactly. But this is used, the voice quality
is bad at the beginning when file is transferred. The voice quality will
converge to be good after about 30 seconds.

However, this is not acceptable. Can anyone tell me what is the best
tc config for running VoIP? Thanks very much.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:05:12 +0500
From: Alexey Talikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Alexey Talikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Fortek
To: Fabian Gervan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LARTC] filter in-cache traffic  with tc

Hello Fabian,
I recomend you use squid delay pools or WRR qdisc with patch for
squid.
see this links
http://wipl-wrr.sourceforge.net/
http://squid-docs.sourceforge.net/latest/html/x2116.html


Monday, August 19, 2002, 7:31:05 AM, you wrote:

FG Hello lartc, I am using squid in transparent mode, and bandwith control
FG with tc (htb). (redhat 7.3).
FG Currently I mark packets comming from 3128 

[LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #722 - 3 msgs

2002-08-17 Thread mikep02

I will be out of the office from 8/19 until 8/23.  I will be returning on Monday
afternoon, 8/26, and will reply then.

Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
Softerware, Inc.

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Subject: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #722 - 3 msgs
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Date: 08/18/02 01:27:42

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   2. Re: HTB3 port for 2.2.18? (Julian Anastasov)
   3. Another sharing tehnique, is this possible ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:32:12 -0400
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Subject: [LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs

I will be out of the office from 8/19 until 8/23.  I will be returning on Monday
afternoon, 8/26, and will reply then.

Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
Softerware, Inc.

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Subject: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs
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Date: 08/17/02 01:27:51

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   1. Re: Advance Routing Guidance (Arindam Haldar)
   2. Re: HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2 (Jason Tackaberry)
   3. HTB3 port for 2.2.18? (Amit Kucheria)
   4. HTB equivalent for 'bounded' and 'isolated' in CBQ (Amit Kucheria)
   5. Implementation details of sch (Pedro Larroy)
   6. Re: Implementation details of sch (Werner Almesberger)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:26:24 +0530
From: Arindam Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Julian Anastasov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LARTC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Advance Routing Guidance

hi julian
hi all
thanx to you all.. many doubts are now cleared.. the **NATing** 
soulution is ofcource a very steady one but am not able to convince my 
management for it !.. hopefully they will...
ys julian you r right :).. there were white spaces--it's patched 
perfectly now .. :) ..
to you all--- have a :) sunday..
:)
A.H

Julian Anastasov wrote:
   Hello,
 
 On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Arindam Haldar wrote:
 
 
after going thru the docs i find that with julians patch one needs to
**MASQUERADE** to the links... we dont want that !.. we want our real ip
to flow in these 2 links(real ip already being broadcasted on provider's
network)..
so my Question is--possible without **MASQUERADE** ??.. will the
setup(as shown in docs) loadbalance for our real ip's ?? ..
 
 
   Of course, it is possible ... and depends on how restrictive
 are your providers. But if one link fails you can have the problem
 of using sources for the failed link, then the replies from world
 will hit the failed provider and will not reach you. As result,
 your internal servers should know which source addresses to use
 according to the link state. The masquerade simply guarantees that
 one link is used only from addresses that are reachable from this
 link.
 
 
what other things i have to consider ?..
 
 
   As for applying the patches you need to download them
 correctly. More likely you have white space problem (try with
 patch -l).
 
 
Awaiting a reply very very anxiously..
A.H
 
 
 Regards
 
 --
 Julian Anastasov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 



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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [LARTC] HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2
From: Jason Tackaberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alexey Talikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: devik [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Aug 2002 14:43:54 -0400

On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 01:46, Alexey Talikov wrote:
 I think in many cases HTB is more simple, power and beautiful
 than CBQ.

Not only that, but it _works_, which is pretty important for me. :)

I'm very happy to see it included into the main kernel.

Best,
Jason.

-- 
Academic Computing Support Specialist
Algoma University College
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
705-949-2301 x330   Personal Home Page
http://www.auc.ca http://sault.org


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:54:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amit Kucheria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LARTC] HTB3 port for 2.2.18?

Hi all,

Is there an 

[LARTC] Re: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs

2002-08-16 Thread mikep02

I will be out of the office from 8/19 until 8/23.  I will be returning on Monday
afternoon, 8/26, and will reply then.

Thank you,

Michael Pellegrino
Softerware, Inc.

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Subject: LARTC digest, Vol 1 #721 - 6 msgs
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Advance Routing Guidance (Arindam Haldar)
   2. Re: HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2 (Jason Tackaberry)
   3. HTB3 port for 2.2.18? (Amit Kucheria)
   4. HTB equivalent for 'bounded' and 'isolated' in CBQ (Amit Kucheria)
   5. Implementation details of sch (Pedro Larroy)
   6. Re: Implementation details of sch (Werner Almesberger)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:26:24 +0530
From: Arindam Haldar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Julian Anastasov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LARTC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Advance Routing Guidance

hi julian
hi all
thanx to you all.. many doubts are now cleared.. the **NATing** 
soulution is ofcource a very steady one but am not able to convince my 
management for it !.. hopefully they will...
ys julian you r right :).. there were white spaces--it's patched 
perfectly now .. :) ..
to you all--- have a :) sunday..
:)
A.H

Julian Anastasov wrote:
   Hello,
 
 On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Arindam Haldar wrote:
 
 
after going thru the docs i find that with julians patch one needs to
**MASQUERADE** to the links... we dont want that !.. we want our real ip
to flow in these 2 links(real ip already being broadcasted on provider's
network)..
so my Question is--possible without **MASQUERADE** ??.. will the
setup(as shown in docs) loadbalance for our real ip's ?? ..
 
 
   Of course, it is possible ... and depends on how restrictive
 are your providers. But if one link fails you can have the problem
 of using sources for the failed link, then the replies from world
 will hit the failed provider and will not reach you. As result,
 your internal servers should know which source addresses to use
 according to the link state. The masquerade simply guarantees that
 one link is used only from addresses that are reachable from this
 link.
 
 
what other things i have to consider ?..
 
 
   As for applying the patches you need to download them
 correctly. More likely you have white space problem (try with
 patch -l).
 
 
Awaiting a reply very very anxiously..
A.H
 
 
 Regards
 
 --
 Julian Anastasov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 



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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [LARTC] HTB is in 2.4.20pre1,2
From: Jason Tackaberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alexey Talikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: devik [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Aug 2002 14:43:54 -0400

On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 01:46, Alexey Talikov wrote:
 I think in many cases HTB is more simple, power and beautiful
 than CBQ.

Not only that, but it _works_, which is pretty important for me. :)

I'm very happy to see it included into the main kernel.

Best,
Jason.

-- 
Academic Computing Support Specialist
Algoma University College
Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
705-949-2301 x330   Personal Home Page
http://www.auc.ca http://sault.org


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:54:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amit Kucheria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LARTC] HTB3 port for 2.2.18?

Hi all,

Is there an HTB3 port for 2.2.18?

Is HTB2 patch on devik's site accurate enough in 2.2.18?

Regards,
Amit
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:09:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Amit Kucheria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LARTC] HTB equivalent for 'bounded' and 'isolated' in CBQ

Hi all,

Sally Floyd's Link sharing paper defines the following:

1. Bounded class: class that is not allowed to borrow from ancestor 
classes, regardless of the limit status of those classes.

2. Isolated class: class that does not allow non-descendant classes to 
borrow its unused bandwidth and that does not borrow bandwidth from 
other classes in turn

How does HTB implement a 'bounded class'? I seem to see no constructs to 
be able to do this.

The 'ceil' parameter allows us to implement a part of the 'isolated'
definition above. By