Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-07-01 Thread Stef Coene
On Monday 30 June 2003 20:25, Steve Wright wrote:
 Bernard Robbins wrote:
  Stef,
 
  Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?
 
  Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a
  more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.
 
  Stef

 I could use this information also..
There is some information in the lartc howto about policers.  That's all I 
have.  For imq, you can search the lartc archives.

Stef

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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-30 Thread Steve Wright
Bernard Robbins wrote:

Stef,

Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?

Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a 
more complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.

Stef

I could use this information also..

TIA,
Steve
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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-26 Thread Stef Coene
On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
  Hello Sreram,
 
   AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
  This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
  appropriately.
 
   You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.

 Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
 incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
 control.
Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a more 
complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.

Stef

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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-26 Thread Bernard Robbins
Stef,

Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?

Stef Coene wrote:
On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:

On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:

Hello Sreram,

AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
appropriately.
You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
control.
Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a more 
complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.

Stef

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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-26 Thread K S Sreeram
Hi

I would strongly recommend going with IMQ + HTB. I just installed it
yesterday. It just works beautifully. It gives you the full flexibility
in using HTB SFQ etc, to shape incoming traffic.

Makes me wonder... How come IMQ is not yet part of the standard kernel?
Is it going to be coming in 2.4.22?

Thanks

Regards


On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 03:19, Bernard Robbins wrote:
 Stef,
 
 Can you point me to the location of the docs for the filters + policers?
 
 Stef Coene wrote:
  On Monday 23 June 2003 14:31, K S Sreeram wrote:
  
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
 
 Hello Sreram,
 
  AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
 This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
 appropriately.
 
  You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
 
 Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
 incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
 control.
  
  Incoming traffic can be controlled with filters + policers.  Or a more 
  complicated setup can be done with IMQ + HTB.
  
  Stef
  
 
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Re: RE: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-24 Thread Paulo Ricardo
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 Subject: RE: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data
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 Date: 24 Jun 2003 09:18:18 +0530
 
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, S Mohan wrote:
  Let us say eth0 is connected the Internet and eth1 to the local LAN. Then
  shaping outgoing traffic on eth1 is equivalent to throttling incoming on
  eth0. Another alternative is to use the IMQ device. I recommend the first
  method.
 

Hi all

Mohan

Could you explain me why do you thinks that's is better to use
throttling incoming on eth0 instead of the use of IMQ??? any particular
technical explanation??? I'm asking cause i'm newbie and i've been
studying LARTC and IPTABLES.( believe , very hard stuff..80))

thanx's in advanced



 The problem is that I dont have a separate router. I have a single
 machine (a laptop), which is connected to the internet with a 128kbps
 connection.
 
 I dont know how to do incoming traffic shaping, when only one machine is
 present, which is typical in home usage scenarios.
 
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  Behalf Of K S Sreeram
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:01 PM
  To: lartc
  Subject: Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data
  
  
  On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
   Hello Sreram,
  
AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
   This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
   appropriately.
  
You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
  
  
  Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
  incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
  control.
  
  
   On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
Hi
   
I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
box. There is no separate router.
   
I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
higher priority to HTTP traffic.
   
Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic?
   
I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
(cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
   
In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
   
Regards
   
Thanks in Advance!
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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-23 Thread Trevor Warren
Hello Sreram,

 AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
appropriately. 

 You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.

Trevor 


On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
 box. There is no separate router.
 
 I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
 Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
 traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
 higher priority to HTTP traffic.
 
 Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? 
 
 I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
 (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
 I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
 
 In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
 Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
 
 Regards 
 
 Thanks in Advance!
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Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-23 Thread K S Sreeram
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
 Hello Sreram,
 
  AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
 This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
 appropriately. 
 
  You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.


Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
control.
 
 
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
  Hi
  
  I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
  box. There is no separate router.
  
  I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
  Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
  traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
  higher priority to HTTP traffic.
  
  Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic? 
  
  I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
  (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
  I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
  
  In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
  Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
  
  Regards 
  
  Thanks in Advance!
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RE: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data

2003-06-23 Thread K S Sreeram
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:05, S Mohan wrote:
 Let us say eth0 is connected the Internet and eth1 to the local LAN. Then
 shaping outgoing traffic on eth1 is equivalent to throttling incoming on
 eth0. Another alternative is to use the IMQ device. I recommend the first
 method.

The problem is that I dont have a separate router. I have a single
machine (a laptop), which is connected to the internet with a 128kbps
connection.

I dont know how to do incoming traffic shaping, when only one machine is
present, which is typical in home usage scenarios.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of K S Sreeram
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:01 PM
 To: lartc
 Subject: Re: [LARTC] bandwidth limiting incoming data
 
 
 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:47, Trevor Warren wrote:
  Hello Sreram,
 
   AFAIK all Traffic Shaping be it Ingress/Egress can be done at your end.
  This will help majorly on the link at your end by prioritising trafic
  appropriately.
 
   You can't possibly change traffic priorities at your isps end.
 
 
 Maybe my mail wasnt clear, but what i wanted to know is how to shape
 incoming traffic on my box, and not at the ISP's end, which I cant
 control.
 
 
  On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 17:38, K S Sreeram wrote:
   Hi
  
   I am connected to the internet thru a 128kbps connection, with a single
   box. There is no separate router.
  
   I have a 'cvs update' going on for a rather large repository.
   Whenever there is any HTTP traffic(browser/wget/apt-get etc), the CVS
   traffic seems to come to a halt. So it looks like my ISP is giving
   higher priority to HTTP traffic.
  
   Is there any way I can give higher priority to the CVS traffic?
  
   I have read lartc, but all the techniques it talks about
   (cbq, htb etc) works only for outgoing traffic, not for incoming data.
   I am not sure if the ingress qdisc is suitable for this problem
  
   In freebsd, I could use 'ipfw pipes' to control incoming traffic too..
   Is there a similar mechanism that can be done in linux?
  
   Regards
  
   Thanks in Advance!
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