RE: [A] Infinite continuous logging of 16 TV (A+V) channels

2004-03-04 Thread Roman Golubovski
Thank you all who responded to my original email. I passed the info and
obviously someone got wiser and re-defined the inquiry:

Digital Video Recorder
Input: 16 channels (A/V) / Multiplexer,
Output: 1/4/9/16 simultaneously Video, 1 channel Audio
Memory: HDD 320 GB

Again I am not sure I understand the type of device described above. All
I know is its a part of equipment setup. I guess this kind of device is
expensive and the previous inquiry was intended for a cheaper emulation.

Can anyone give me hints what am I looking for?
Thanks in advance,


Roman Golubovski, MSc Dipl-EEng
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Re: [A] Infinite continuous logging of 16 TV (A+V) channels

2004-03-02 Thread Tom Hawkins
Roman Golubovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 

A friend from a TV station would like to set a system for 
continuous 24h (or on-demand) recording of 16 TV channels 
(composite or AV) with professional quality.

Presumably they have heard of tape recorders, they're after a computer-based solution 
for whatever reason and this is why they asked Roman...

Do they want to do something like maintain a recording of the last 7 days of output, 
and have random access to it to review/archive certain segments? Somebody like Avid 
(http://www.avid.com) will probably build them a system to do that, but it won't be 
cheap! An alternative might be to have a suite of PCs or Macs running standard video 
capture and editing software like Apple Final Cut Express or Adobe Premiere. You'd 
have to think about how the 'continuous' recording was going to work in that case - 
maybe rolling over from one file to another every few hours using some kind of 
software scripting, depending on what those packages are capable of. I don't know of 
any solutions in between those two, but that doesn't mean they don't exist...

As for data rate and disc space, I believe DV is generally considered the entry level 
for 'professional' quality, and a DV stream is 3.6 megabytes per second.


Dr Tom Hawkins
High Throughput Screening Analyst, Associated Octel ltd
PO Box 17, Ellesmere Port, Cheshire CH65 4HF, UK
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RE: [A] Infinite continuous logging of 16 TV (A+V) channels

2004-03-01 Thread Bruce Ammons
I would initially say it is not feasible.  You would need multiple PCs
with several IMAQ cards (+ audio) each to get all the data into a
system, and very large, fast hard drives to store the data.  The drives
would fill up very quickly.

If you went to on demand recording of selected channels, it becomes
reasonable, but still big.  It would depend on the actual requirements.

One thing I would consider if you decide to do a system like this is to
look at video to firewire converters that combine a video and audio
signal and convert it to digital video for firewire.  I don't know if
this format is compatible with the NI firewire drivers (I doubt it), but
that might compress the video enough to record several channels on a
single computer.  They might be cheaper than IMAQ cards, which could
only handle one channel each.  They would also take care of
synchronizing the video and audio for you.  I don't know if the quality
would be considered professional quality, though.

I would probably just look at a large tape machine that records several
channels to a large magnetic tape, and have backup system ready when you
need to change the tape.

Bruce

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Bruce Ammons
Ammons Engineering
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(810) 687-6202 Fax



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Subject: [A] Infinite continuous logging of 16 TV (A+V) channels


Hello,

This is out of my expertise so I am posting it on the forum. A friend
from a TV station would like to set a system for continuous 24h (or
on-demand) recording of 16 TV channels (composite or AV) with
professional quality.

What would be the cheapest and most efficient solution HWSW - single or
multiple IMAQ cards, single or multiple PCs, drivers, software, ...,
considerations on reliability?

I appreciate any info regarding any aspect, especially concrete
products.

Thanks in advance,


Roman Golubovski, MSc Dipl-EEng
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