L&I The Miracles of Paula Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Move over, Mother Teresa. We have a real saint in Paula Jones and she isn't even dead. Look at the miracles: - Christians have discovered that women have rights. - Democrats have started to worry about spending a few million dollars. - Feminists are demanding the right of employers to sexually abuse women at a place of buisness be upheld. What miralcles have you given us, Mother? Best, Terry "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's Dictionary Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Napalm Shipment Held in Kansas
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hey Sue I remember them especially the young girl running form the village, Its a very strange situation, with the left arm no knowing what the right ones doing. If I remember rightly the chemicals in its composition are both highly toxic and very polluting, and to safely burn them off would need a incredibly high temperature, otherwise the smoke and fumes would be just as dangerous. Steve -Original Message- From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 11:29 AM Subject: Re: L&I Napalm Shipment Held in Kansas >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Hi Steve: > >I remember pictures of little children running with their clothing >burned off, and other such horrid things during Vietnam. > >What I don't understand about this stuff is that if it is so dangerous, >why didn't they just leave it where it was and destroy it there. >Instead of taking it across country on a train, and then turning around >and bringing it back. Doesn't really make any sense. > >From what I understand the place where they are taking it (next to where >I live) doesn't have any way of getting rid of it anyway. The place >where it originated from (Ed, Fallbrook) was therefore just as good a >place as any. > >Sue > > >> >> Hi Sue, napalm its a very flammable toxic jelly like substance that is >> dropped from aircraft, imagine something that burns 10times hotter and 5 >> times as long as petrol and your getting there, unfortunately its not >> exactly one of the most stable compounds going and 12,000 gallons well, you >> can imagine, if you have ever watched a movie about the Vietnam war, were >> you see a aircraft fly over and the jungle erupt in flames thats napalm >> (evil stuff) >> >> Steve > >-- >Two rules in life: > >1. Don't tell people everything you know. >2. > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If she was suffering from so much emotional injury, she wouldn't have been able to mount such a ridiculous campaign against the president, she left herself far more open to emotional stress than she would have suffered if she left it alone. From my point of view this is just starting to get tired and boring. Our PM hasn't got the brains to run a piss up in a brewery never mind the country. Steve -Original Message- From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 10:17 PM Subject: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not > Impossible > > By Pierre > Thomas/CNN > > WASHINGTON > (April 16) -- Judge > Susan Webber > Wright's sweeping > dismissal of Paula > Jones' lawsuit makes > an appeal extremely > difficult -- difficult, but not impossible. > > Take, for instance, Jones' claim of emotional distress > she says she suffered at the hands of then-Gov. Bill > Clinton. "Mr. Clinton exposed himself to me that > day," Jones has said. > > The idea that such behavior caused Jones no mental > anguish might be difficult for a higher court to >fathom, > says one expert. > > "When Judge Wright dismissed the emotional distress > claim, it raised concerns among many people that this > claim is not unlike the claims of many women who > are not arguing employment injury but rather > emotional injury," said Jonathan Turley of George > Washington University Law School. > > An appellate court might fear that blocking the Jones > case from going to trial would have a chilling effect > on hundreds of other sexual harassment cases. > > But in her ruling Judge Wright found Jones incurred > no medical bills and never sought emotional > counseling. > > In fact, Wright said Jones had no case, not for sexual > assault. The judge said, "The conduct as alleged by > plaintiff describes a mere sexual proposition or > encounter, albeit an odious one, that was relatively > brief in duration." > > And Wright said > Jones had no case, > not for sexual > harassment. She > ruled Jones "has not > demonstrated any > tangible job detriment > or adverse > employments action > for her refusal to > submit to the > governor's alleged advances." > > That argument may be difficult to overturn on appeal > and limits Jones' options, says one sexual harassment > expert. > > "You have to show you weren't hired, you were > fired, you were denied a promotion you should have > gotten," attorney Lynne Bernabei said. "They are > pretty strict about the kinds of sort of serious > detriment you have to suffer in order to make out that > kind of claim." > > But Bernabei says there is another important factor in > the Jones case. Her appeal would be heard by the > 8th Circuit, a court that is largely Republican > appointed. > > That presents a mixed blessing. "It's sort of a unique > case in that the Republican judges have been > precisely the judges that have been so hostile to sex > harassment cases. So in terms of ideology they > would be against her. In terms of political, they may > be for her," Bernabei said. > > In fact, that very court ruled against Clinton, saying > he should face the Jones trial while he is still in >office. >-- >Two rules in life: > >1. Don't tell people everything you know. >2. > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: L&I We got music
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thanks Sue, this reminds me of one of the girls (sorry she was young impressionable and daft enough to ask me) on our N.D course asking what would happen if she() caught a computer virus, so as you would I asked her if she'd seen "Outbreak", anyway I never saw her for about a week and then she came up to me in the college canteen and said she was o.k she had bought a copy of "Dr Solomans" Get well soon Sue. Steve :-) -Original Message- From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 10:24 AM Subject: Re: L&I We got music >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Hi Steve: > >I've been sitting here for four days up to my neck in Kleenex, now I >know where I got this thing. > >Take care of yourself. It's the pitts, I know. > >Sue > >> >> Hello my friends, sorry for my absence, Iam recovering from a nasty case of >> flu, I still feel like I have been hit by a steam train. I caught this >> thread yesterday but I only managed to get out of bed this afternoon to >> write any mail. If its good music your after, check out this ftp. > >-- >Two rules in life: > >1. Don't tell people everything you know. >2. > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hey Sue (sniff), why would the CDC be doing a survey on gun deaths I thought CDC was Centre for Disease Control? Steve -Original Message- From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 2:40 AM Subject: L&I U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths > >> ATLANTA (AP) -- The United States has by far the highest >> rate of gun deaths -- murders, suicides and accidents -- >> among the world's 36 richest nations, a government study >> found. >> >> The U.S. rate for gun deaths in 1994 was 14.24 per >> 100,000 people. Japan had the lowest rate, at .05 per >> 100,000. >> >> The study, done by the Centers for Disease Control and >> Prevention, is the first comprehensive international >> look at gun-related deaths. It was published Thursday in >> the International Journal of Epidemiology. >> >> The CDC would not speculate why the death rates varied, >> but other researchers said easy access to guns and >> society's acceptance of violence are part of the problem >> in the United States. >> >> ``If you have a country saturated with guns -- available >> to people when they are intoxicated, angry or depressed >> -- it's not unusual guns will be used more often,'' said >> Dr. Rebecca Peters, a Johns Hopkins University fellow >> specializing in gun violence. ``This has to be treated >> as a public health emergency.'' >> >> The National Rifle Association called the study shoddy >> because it failed to examine all causes of violent >> deaths. >> >> ``What this shows is the CDC is after guns. They aren't >> concerned with violence. It's pretending that no >> homicide exists unless it's related to guns,'' said Dr. >> Paul Blackman, a research coordinator for the NRA in >> Fairfax, Va. >> >> The 36 countries chosen were listed as the richest in >> the World Bank's 1994 World Development Report, with the >> highest GNP per capita income. >> >> The study used 1994 statistics supplied by the 36 >> countries. Of the 88,649 gun deaths reported by all the >> countries, the United States accounted for 45 percent, >> said Dr. Etienne Krug, a CDC researcher and co-author of >> the article. >> >> ``I was surprised by the magnitude of the difference >> between the U.S. and other countries,'' Krug said. >> >> Brazil ranked second with 12.95 deaths per 100,000, >> followed by Mexico with 12.69, Estonia with 12.26 and >> Argentina with 8.93. >> >> Japan, where very few people own guns, averages 124 >> gun-related attacks a year, and less than 1 percent end >> in death. Police often raid the homes of those suspected >> of having weapons. >> >> Also at the bottom of the list were South Korea with .12 >> per 100,000 people, followed by Hong Kong with .14, >> Mauritius with .19, Singapore with .21, Taiwan with .37 >> and England and Wales with .41. >> >> The study found that gun-related deaths were five to six >> times higher in the Americas than in Europe or Australia >> and New Zealand and 95 times higher than in Asia. > >-- >Two rules in life: > >1. Don't tell people everything you know. >2. > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I STRANGE SEX LAWS
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: HI Sue loved these absolutely wonderful :-) Steve -Original Message- From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 10:40 PM Subject: L&I STRANGE SEX LAWS >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >STRANGE SEX LAWS > >In Ventura County, California, cats and dogs are not allowed to >have sex without a permit. > >If a police officer in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, suspects a couple is >having sex inside a vehicle they must honk their horn three times, and >wait two minutes before being allowed to approach the scene. > >A law in Oblong, Illinois makes it a crime to make love while >fishing or hunting on your wedding day. > >In Ames Iowa a husband may not take more than three gulps of beer >while lying in bed with his wife. > >A law in Alexandria, Minnesota makes it illegal for a husband to >make love to his wife if his breath smells like garlic, onions, or >sardines. > >A Helena, Montana law states that a woman cannot dance on a saloon >table unless her clothing weights more than three pounds, two ounces. > >Hotel owners in Hastings, Nebraska are required by law to provide a >clean, white cotton nightshirt to each guest. According to the law, >no couple may have sex unless they are wearing the nightshirts. > >Any couple making out inside a vehicle, and accidentally sounding the >horn during their lustful act, may be taken to jail according to a >Liberty Corner, New Jersey law. > >During lunch breaks in Carlsbad, New Mexico, no couple should >engage in a sexual act while parked in their vehicle, unless their car >has curtains. > >In Nevada sex without a condom is considered illegal. >In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania it is illegal to have sex with a truck >driver inside a toll booth. > >Hotels in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, are required by law to >furnish their rooms with twin beds only. There should be a minimum of >two feet between the beds, and it is illegal for a couple to make love >on the floor between the beds. > >In Kingsville, Texas, there is a law against two pigs having sex >on the city's airport property. > >A Tremonton, Utah law states that no woman is allowed to have sex with >a man while riding in an ambulance. In addition to normal charges, >the woman's name will be published in the local newspaper. The man >does not receive any punishment. > >In the state of Washington there is a law against having sex with a >virgin under any circumstances. (including the wedding night) > >In Connorsville, Wisconsin no man shall shoot of a gun while his >female partner is having a sexual orgasm. > >The only acceptable sexual position in Washington D.C. is the >missionary-style position. Any other sexual position is >considered illegal. (So this is how they plan on getting Clinton) >-- >Two rules in life: > >1. Don't tell people everything you know. >2. > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Napalm Shipment Held in Kansas
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hey Doc and dont forget the Gulf War (cough,splutter), Oh no my mistake they were external fuel tanks(?) Steve -Original Message- From: DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 10:22 AM Subject: Re: L&I Napalm Shipment Held in Kansas >DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >In a message dated 98-04-16 17:06:03 EDT, you write: > ><< Can someone tell me exactly what is Napalm and if it is so dangerous > that people don't want it in their state, why are sending it back and > forth across the country on a train. If it is that dangerous, shouldn't > they just leave it where it is and distroy it there. > > Sue > >> > >Destroy it how, Sue? Remember when it was used in 'Nam and Cambodia? That's >some real mean stuff. >Doc > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Hey Sue (sniff), why would the CDC be doing a survey on gun deaths I thought >CDC was Centre for Disease Control? > >Steve Hey, Steve, surely you understand the ability of bureaucracies beyond control. CDC is the the Center for Disease Control and has decided that guns are a new microbe apparently. If you knew about the lies the CDC put out in the case of the "AIDS Dentist" you would understand why they think guns are a pathogen. Best, Terry "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's Dictionary Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
L&I P2 350 - 400 based systems.
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Just seen a advert in a UK paper for P350 1643.00 P400 1761.00 both prices are inclusive of VAT. Steve:-) === Lifes a beach and I'm on it, Jah Wobble. === PERSONAL EMAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
L&I Carolina In My Mind
moonshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mornin' All, I'm up and gone to the Carolina's for awhile. I'm unsubbing while I'm gone. Bill, take care of the bunker. ...Mac Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Kevorkian Lawyer Runs for Mich Gov.
"Linda D. Misek-Falkoff, Ph.D., J.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Sue, does this mean he is entering the primaries? Thx, :) LDMF. --Sue Hartigan wrote:- > > Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Kevorkian Lawyer Runs for Mich Gov. > > > LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- Geoffrey Fieger, Jack Kevorkian's > > fiery lawyer, entered the Democratic race for governor > > Thursday. > > > > The personal injury lawyer known for his scorched-earth > > rhetoric said he wants to protect people's rights to > > abortion, assisted suicide and mental health care. He > > also said he can lead the state to a better economy than > > Republican Gov. John Engler can. > > > > ``Why are we rated 27th, behind Ohio, as a desirable > > place to live?'' he asked. ``Engler has been content > > with an economy that will catch pneumonia when the > > national economy catches a cold.'' > > > > Fieger, 47, has been protective, loud, intimidating, > > theatrical, abrasive, foul-mouthed and -- even his > > critics admit -- highly effective in defending > > Kevorkian, who has taken part in at least 100 suicides. > > > > Kevorkian has been acquitted in three trials covering > > five deaths. A fourth trial ended last June in a > > mistrial after Fieger, in his opening statement, accused > > a prosecutor of tampering with evidence and conducting a > > witch hunt. > > > > He has also called former Oakland County Prosecutor > > Richard Thompson a madman and likened him to Hitler. > > > > Fieger said he wouldn't quit defending Kevorkian during > > the campaign, but promised the doctor would have no > > place in his administration. > > > > ``If I hired Jack as my health secretary, I'd probably > > fire him the next day,'' he said. > > > > The other Democrats in the race are former state > > Commerce Director Doug Ross, lawyer Larry Owen and Ed > > Hamilton, a Chrysler supervisor. > > > > Fieger said he is a better candidate because he owes > > nothing to special interest groups. > > > > A spokesman for Engler, who is running for a third term, > > said Fieger brings nothing except an entertainment value > > to the race. > > > > ``He is definitely not leadership material,'' John > > Truscott said. ``He knows how to sling barbs and > > insults, but does he know how to get anything done?'' > > -- > Two rules in life: > > 1. Don't tell people everything you know. > 2. > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
L&I Warning After Artist Sells Her Work - And Her Body
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Warning After Artist Sells Her Work - And Her Body Council licensing officers served a written warning on a London art gallery where an artist claimed to have sold her body along with her work while members of the public paid to look on. Canadian Angela Marshall, 25, alleged she had full sex while painting a picture for her first customer. The man, who gave his name as Mark Childs, said he was a buyer for a wealthy collector who was too well-known to attend the session at Decima Studios, Bermondsey, south London. Miss Marshall's first three bookings had apparently been scared off by the journalists ringing the studio, but Mr Childs opted to pay 50 for sex and the picture. Onlookers watched through a hole in the door as the couple cavorted naked under a red light on a double mattress while Miss Marshall's assistant Jessica Konopka, 20, from Mauchline, Ayrshire, Scotland, danced around them smoking. The pair were inside the studio for about an hour. But shortly before they emerged a man who had earlier paid 5 to watch the show arrived with a colleague from Southwark Council's licensing department and served a written warning on curator Alex Chappel. The council officers warned Mr Chappel that the property appeared to be being used for sexual entertainment and he may have committed an offence. They said that if the exhibition continued, the gallery would be risking prosecution. Mr Chappel said he had taken legal advice before staging the exhibition - scheduled to run over the weekend - and understood that it was legal. He told reporters: "If we can get it confirmed then we carry on with it." === Lifes a beach and I'm on it, Jah Wobble. === PERSONAL EMAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Napalm Shipment Held in Kansas
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-17 10:24:22 EDT, you write: << Hey Doc and dont forget the Gulf War (cough,splutter), Oh no my mistake they were external fuel tanks(?) Steve >> Sure, whatever. But my friend's son is still very ill from that "whatever." Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-17 10:13:32 EDT, you write: << Hey Sue (sniff), why would the CDC be doing a survey on gun deaths I thought CDC was Centre for Disease Control? Steve >> CDC keeps "cause of death" stats, Steve. I didn't realize they subdivided the homicide category into guns and other causes, though. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-17 10:01:42 EDT, you write: << From my point of view this is just starting to get tired and boring. >> Just starting? From mine it's been that from the beginning. And all the hoopla about this "news conference" -- did anyone seriously think she was going to announce a decision NOT to appeal? Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Sue, Wow, powerful numbers but certainly no surprise. Gee, do you think there could be a connection between our leading in executions as well? Bill On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:46:18 -0700 Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths > >> ATLANTA (AP) -- The United States has by far the highest >> rate of gun deaths -- murders, suicides and accidents -- >> among the world's 36 richest nations, a government study >> found. >> >> The U.S. rate for gun deaths in 1994 was 14.24 per >> 100,000 people. Japan had the lowest rate, at .05 per >> 100,000. >> >> The study, done by the Centers for Disease Control and >> Prevention, is the first comprehensive international >> look at gun-related deaths. It was published Thursday in >> the International Journal of Epidemiology. >> >> The CDC would not speculate why the death rates varied, >> but other researchers said easy access to guns and >> society's acceptance of violence are part of the problem >> in the United States. >> >> ``If you have a country saturated with guns -- available >> to people when they are intoxicated, angry or depressed >> -- it's not unusual guns will be used more often,'' said >> Dr. Rebecca Peters, a Johns Hopkins University fellow >> specializing in gun violence. ``This has to be treated >> as a public health emergency.'' >> >> The National Rifle Association called the study shoddy >> because it failed to examine all causes of violent >> deaths. >> >> ``What this shows is the CDC is after guns. They aren't >> concerned with violence. It's pretending that no >> homicide exists unless it's related to guns,'' said Dr. >> Paul Blackman, a research coordinator for the NRA in >> Fairfax, Va. >> >> The 36 countries chosen were listed as the richest in >> the World Bank's 1994 World Development Report, with the >> highest GNP per capita income. >> >> The study used 1994 statistics supplied by the 36 >> countries. Of the 88,649 gun deaths reported by all the >> countries, the United States accounted for 45 percent, >> said Dr. Etienne Krug, a CDC researcher and co-author of >> the article. >> >> ``I was surprised by the magnitude of the difference >> between the U.S. and other countries,'' Krug said. >> >> Brazil ranked second with 12.95 deaths per 100,000, >> followed by Mexico with 12.69, Estonia with 12.26 and >> Argentina with 8.93. >> >> Japan, where very few people own guns, averages 124 >> gun-related attacks a year, and less than 1 percent end >> in death. Police often raid the homes of those suspected >> of having weapons. >> >> Also at the bottom of the list were South Korea with .12 >> per 100,000 people, followed by Hong Kong with .14, >> Mauritius with .19, Singapore with .21, Taiwan with .37 >> and England and Wales with .41. >> >> The study found that gun-related deaths were five to six >> times higher in the Americas than in Europe or Australia >> and New Zealand and 95 times higher than in Asia. > >-- >Two rules in life: > >1. Don't tell people everything you know. >2. > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
L&I DOC - Gulf war syndrome
Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sure, whatever. But my friend's son is still very ill from that "whatever." Doc Hi Doc, I have many friends who are Gulf War veterans and since this whole thing started erupting soon after the conflict I have tried to keep tabs on developments regarding this very sensitive issue. My money is on fall out from biological or chemical weapons fired by Iraqi artillery. I would be interested in you views on that or the antidotes given for anthrax or the pesticide, depleted uranium throes. My thoughts are with your friends son, I hope this mess finally gets cleared up for all, the men and women who served in Desert Storm. Steve === Lifes a beach and I'm on it, Jah Wobble. === PERSONAL EMAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Carolina In My Mind
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Mac, Have a great time and keep your head down. I'll clean out the bunker and replace the areas that have been damaged. Hmm, not many of those. :) Bill On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:55:01 -0400 moonshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >moonshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Mornin' All, > I'm up and gone to the Carolina's for awhile. I'm unsubbing while >I'm gone. >Bill, take care of the bunker. >...Mac > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:04:21 EDT DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >In a message dated 98-04-17 10:01:42 EDT, you write: > ><< From my point of view this is just starting to get tired > and boring. >> > >Just starting? From mine it's been that from the beginning. And all >the >hoopla about this "news conference" -- did anyone seriously think she >was >going to announce a decision NOT to appeal? >Doc Hi Doc, A very well rehearsed news conference I might add. Too bad she's not a good enough actress to pull it off. If she's not interested in media coverage then why even HAVE a news conference? It is certainly not a requirement to have one in order to appeal a court decision. These people are so dumb and transparent it's hilarious. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I U.S. Leads the World in Gun Deaths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:49:39 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >>Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>Hey Sue (sniff), why would the CDC be doing a survey on gun deaths I >thought >>CDC was Centre for Disease Control? >> >>Steve > >Hey, Steve, surely you understand the ability of bureaucracies beyond >control. > >CDC is the the Center for Disease Control and has decided that guns >are a >new microbe apparently. If you knew about the lies the CDC put out in >the >case of the "AIDS Dentist" you would understand why they think guns >are a >pathogen. >Best, Terry Damn, I re-read that report three times and still can't find the statement that guns are pathogens. I think I know where the lies are coming from. LMAO...the usual suspects. That's a real problem when your credibility is destroyed, isn't it? Best, Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Warning After Artist Sells Her Work - And Her Body
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Sounds like a scene from The Big Lebowsky to me. :) Bill On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:36:14 +0100 Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Warning After Artist Sells Her Work - And Her Body > >Council licensing officers served a written warning on a London art >gallery >where an artist claimed to have sold her body along with her work >while >members of the public paid to look on. >Canadian Angela Marshall, 25, alleged she had full sex while painting >a >picture for her first customer. > >The man, who gave his name as Mark Childs, said he was a buyer for a >wealthy >collector who was too well-known to attend the session at Decima >Studios, >Bermondsey, south London. > >Miss Marshall's first three bookings had apparently been scared off by >the >journalists ringing the studio, but Mr Childs opted to pay 50 for sex >and >the picture. > >Onlookers watched through a hole in the door as the couple cavorted >naked >under a red light on a double mattress while Miss Marshall's assistant >Jessica Konopka, 20, from Mauchline, Ayrshire, Scotland, danced around >them >smoking. > >The pair were inside the studio for about an hour. > >But shortly before they emerged a man who had earlier paid 5 to watch >the >show arrived with a colleague from Southwark Council's licensing >department >and served a written warning on curator Alex Chappel. > >The council officers warned Mr Chappel that the property appeared to >be >being used for sexual entertainment and he may have committed an >offence. >They said that if the exhibition continued, the gallery would be >risking >prosecution. > >Mr Chappel said he had taken legal advice before staging the >exhibition - >scheduled to run over the weekend - and understood that it was legal. > >He told reporters: "If we can get it confirmed then we carry on with >it." > >=== > >Lifes a beach and I'm on it, Jah Wobble. > >=== > PERSONAL EMAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues > _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I We got music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Sue and Bill, I loved The Village People. They were popular with me before they became famous! Vi ___ Bill wrote: <<>> _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I DOC - Gulf war syndrome
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-17 17:49:51 EDT, you write: << Hi Doc, I have many friends who are Gulf War veterans and since this whole thing started erupting soon after the conflict I have tried to keep tabs on developments regarding this very sensitive issue. My money is on fall out from biological or chemical weapons fired by Iraqi artillery. I would be interested in you views on that or the antidotes given for anthrax or the pesticide, depleted uranium throes. My thoughts are with your friends son, I hope this mess finally gets cleared up for all, the men and women who served in Desert Storm. Steve >> Thanks for the thoughts, Steve. I really haven't enough medical knowledge to have any educated views on the question. Wish I did. This I do know, I'm not ready to just sit back and say "that's nice" when someone says there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I'm not that trusting, not by a long shot. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: L&I Warning After Artist Sells Her Work - And Her Body
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-17 17:55:06 EDT, you write: << Sounds like a scene from The Big Lebowsky to me. :) Bill >> Any relation to the big Lewinsky? Sorry -- couldn't resist. Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
L&I COTD: Manson, Charles Milles
Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Here's a rather famous killers case for y'all: Born "no name Maddox" in Cincinnati, Ohio, on November 12, 1934, Manson was the illegitimate son of Kathleen Maddox, a 16-year-old prostitute. His surname was derived from one of Kathleen's many lovers, whom she briefly married, but it signified no blood connection. During 1936, Kathleen filed a paternity suit against one "Colonel Scott," of Ashland, Kentucky, winning the grand monthly sum of five dollars for the support of "Charles Milles Manson." Scott instantly defaulted on the judgment, and he died in 1954, without acknowledging his son. In 1939, Kathleen and her brother were sentenced to five years in prison for robbing a West Virginia gas station. Charles was packed off to live with a strictly religious aunt and her sadistic husband, who constantly berated the boy as a "sissy," dressing him in girl's clothing for his first day of school in an effort to help Manson "act like a man." Paroled in 1942, Maddox reclaimed her son, but she was clearly unsuited to motherhood. An alcoholic tramp who brought home lovers of both sexes, Kathleen frequently left Charles with neighbors "for an hour," then disappeared for days or weeks on end, leaving relatives to track the boy down. On one occasion, she reportedly gave Charles to a barmaid, in payment for a pitcher of beer. By 1947, Kathleen was seeking a foster home for her son, but none was available. Charles wound up in the Gibault School for Boys, in Terre Haute, Indiana, but fled after ten months, rejoining his mother. She still didn't want him, and so Manson took to living on the streets, making his way by theft. Arrested in Indiana, he escaped from the local juvenile center after one day's confinement. Recaptured and sent to Father Flanagan's Boy's Town, he lasted four days before his next escape, fleeing in a stolen car to visit relatives in Illinois. He pulled more robberies en route and on arrival, leading to another bust at age 13. Confined for three years in a reform school at Plainfield, Indiana, Manson recalls sadistic abuse by older boys and guards alike. If we may trust his memory, at least one guard incited other boys to rape and torture Manson, while the officer stood by and masturbated on the sidelines. In February 1951, Manson and two other inmates escaped from the Plainfield "school," fleeing westward in a series of stolen cars. Arrested in Beaver, Utah, Manson was sentenced to federal time for driving hot cars across state lines. Starting off in a minimum-security establishment, Manson assaulted another inmate in January 1952, holding a razor blade to the boy's throat and sodomizing him. Reclassified as "dangerous," Manson was transferred to a tougher lockup, logging eight major disciplinary infractions including three homosexual assaults - by August 1952. He was moved to the Chilicothe, Ohio, reformatory a month later, and suddenly turned over a new leaf, becoming a "model" prisoner almost overnight. The cunning act was rewarded by parole in May 1954. Arrested a second time for driving hot cars interstate, in September 1955, Manson got off easy with five years probation. He celebrated by skipping a court date in Florida, on pending charges of auto theft, and his probation was promptly revoked. Picked up in Indianapolis on March 14, 1956, he was sent to the federal prison at Terminal Island, California, winning parole on September 30, 1958. Seven months later, on May 1, 1959, he was jailed in Los Angeles, on charges of forging and cashing stolen U.S. Treasury checks. Once more, he escaped with probation, swiftly revoked with his April 1960 arrest for pimping and transporting whores interstate. Entering the lock-up at McNeil Island, Manson listed his religion as "Scientologist"; his IQ was tested at 121. Paroled on March 21, 1967, over his own objections, Manson was drawn to San Francisco and the teeming Haight-Ashbury district. It was the "Summer of Love," when thousands of young people flocked to the banner of drugs and "flower power," heeding Timothy Leary's advice to "tune in, turn on, drop out." The streets and crashpads overflowed with teenage runaways and drifters, seeking insight on the world and on themselves. Behind the scenes, a minor army of manipulators - gurus, outlaw bikers, pushers, pimps and Satanists -- stood ready to squeeze a grim profit from the Age of Aquarius. In San Francisco, Manson displayed a surprising charisma, attracting young drop-outs of both sexes, drawn from all strata of white society. Some, like Mary Brunner, were college graduates. Others, like Susan Atkins and Robert Beausoleil, were involved with Satanic cults. Most were hopelessly confused about their lives, adopting Manson as a combination mentor, father-figure, lover, Christ incarnate, and the self-styled "God of Fuck." They drifted up and down the state in fluctuating numbers, with the "family" topping fifty members at its peak. From Mendocino an
