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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Vi: Maybe I am dense or something, but I honestly don't see where his sexuality has anything at all to do with what he did or did not do in that restroom. Sorry. My daughter was in love with him when he was in his glory with Wham. That is how I got to know his music, and I really liked it a lot then. I also heard yesterday that his career is taking off again since this restroom fiasco. BG Sue Hi Sue, No wonder I liked his music so much in the beginning! Thanks for the information. You can't blame anyone for coming to terms with their sexuality over time, [][but one sure ought to stay out of public restrooms in coping! :) Vi -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Sue, No wonder I liked his music so much in the beginning! Thanks for the information. You can't blame anyone for coming to terms with their sexuality over time, [][but one sure ought to stay out of public restrooms in coping! :) Vi _ You wrote: . . . .In his interview with CNN Michaels said that he didn't come to terms with his sexuality until recently, and that all of his music was entirely geared to females in the beginning. :) . . . _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Vi, Hmm, I wonder what the music from the Gay 90's would be called? I guess it depends on whether it's the 1890's or 1990's. Sorry about the vagueness of the "lamb" comment. I was thinking of "had" in the biblical sense and it got me laughing when I thought of the discussions on the CTV list that centered on bestiality Hmm, audible and visual "stamp" eh? I guess I missed that day in class. I was raised on things like the Bristol Stomp which must have come after the "stamp". What about the music of Abba? Bill . On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:00:57 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Bill, There is IMO such a thing! Elton John, for example, puts quick shots of himself and other males in "drag" on one of his videos. And often the music has a certain audible and visual "stamp" that sets it apart, such as the music of "Queen". Sorry to be dense, but I didn't understand the meaning of your quip about the person on the CTV list and "Mary Had A Little Lamb. Vi You wrote: . . . I must admit that I don't watch MTV and I'm not very familiar with his music. I've just never run into "heterosexual" music or "homosexual" music. . . _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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"Eric J. Fredericks" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I loved you're response to this... I thought her comment was kinda... out of place. Eric William J. Foristal wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Vi, Oh my goodness, Vi, even if he were not gay I don't think his song would mean that he wanted sex with every woman who heard it. LOL! So does the song sound different to you now that you know he is gay, or more correctly, bi-sexual? I really like all of Elton John's music. If I found out he was heterosexual I don't think I'd feel cheated. G Bill On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 19:51:54 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Bill, Now he says he doesn't know how to express why he did it and it isn 't the FIRST time. Go figure! I sense that he is gay. and when I think of how much I enjoyed his songs such as "I Want Your Sex," I feel cheated. Vi __ You wrote; . . .To read anything like him being high on coke or heroin at the time and flashed as a message of contempt for the police is pure conjecture at this time also. G. . . _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:49:58 EDT DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-12 15:39:24 EDT, you write: I really like all of Elton John's music. If I found out he was heterosexual I don't think I'd feel cheated. G LOL Bill! I don't really see what difference it makes anyway. A song is a song, not a pledge of lifelong commitment. And I'm still not sure we know what George Michael did. We know what he did NOT do -- he was alone, and he did not proposition anyone. It's hard to see how a normally built male can use a urinal without exposing himself, so I guess it must have been masturbation. Horrors! Does he have hair on his palms? Much ado about nothing, to coin a phrase, IMO. Doc Hi Doc, I tend to agree, based on what little information has been released to the public. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Vi: In his interview with CNN Michaels said that he didn't come to terms with his sexuality until recently, and that all of his music was entirely geared to females in the beginning. :) Sue Hi Bill, You have a penchant for taking the meaning of words a way they were not intended . I did not think about GM wanting to have sex with every woman he met. It just struck me that his music and art as portrayed on MTV was very, very heterosexual, which added to my enjoyment. Now that he admits to being gay I feel he presented himself in a false manner and that makes me feel cheated. I could, admittedly however, be the only human being on the planet that feels that way :) I would certainly hope that the fact that Elton John might turn out to be heterosexual (an infinitessibly small possibility IMO) would not make you feel cheated. I would not want to think that you mellow out on strictly gay music !!! :) Vi -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Bill, Now he says he doesn't know how to express why he did it and it isn 't the FIRST time. Go figure! I sense that he is gay. and when I think of how much I enjoyed his songs such as "I Want Your Sex," I feel cheated. Vi __ You wrote; . . .To read anything like him being high on coke or heroin at the time and flashed as a message of contempt for the police is pure conjecture at this time also. G. . . _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William J. Foristal wrote: Hi Doc, I think it's a bit much myself. Who cares? It DOES seem strange that he'd be doing this in a public area. Makes me wonder if there might be more to it. Like solicitation or something. Bill I bet I knowTIC. Does "would you like to kiss this for me" sound familar as he barred the police officer's exit from the restroom ?? jackief--I know I will be nice--tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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"Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Doc, I think it's a bit much myself. Who cares? It DOES seem strange that he'd be doing this in a public area. Makes me wonder if there might be more to it. Like solicitation or something. Bill Rumor has it that Monica was sighted leaving the area, just before George Michael was arrested :-) Ron Jury - Twelve people who determine which client has the better lawyer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: What happened is that there is a park in LA where guys hang around in the restroom doing what guys do when they hang around in the restrooms together. (trying to be nice) And there have been complaints from the neighbors. The cops went under cover and caught George Michael in the restroom doing whatever it was that he was doing. Actually that night they caught three other guys too, but none of them were famous so therefore they weren't in the news. But then this is what George says. :) The Top 15 Excuses Given By George Michael 15 Trying to win a bet that he could be in the news in the 90s. 14 "Doesn't anybody bloody knock anymore!?" 13 "My publicist told me I needed more exposure." 12 Just working on the ol' solo act. 11 "You call *this* a lewd act? Compared to the first Wham! tour??" 10 Accidentally gave himself that "I want your sex" look in the mirror. 9 "Your strange foreign ways confuse me... Now look at my butt!" 8 "Is it my fault I'm the only person good-looking enough to date me?" 7 Original title of "I Want Your Sex" was "I Want Your Sex In The Men's Room of Will Rogers Park, Beverly Hills, California and If You Don't Show Up On Time, I'm Starting Without You." 6 "Hey, why should that Milli Vanilli guy get all the attention?" 5 "I just couldn't pass up a chance to look at me bum. It's PERFECT!" 4 "Hey, at least I didn't murder my ex-wife!!" 3 Rehearsing for his new band, Whack! 2 Rehearsing for upcoming role in "Dr. Elders, Medicine Woman." and the Number 1 Excuse Given By George Michael... 1 Trying to get a feel for what Andrew Ridgeley's been doing for the last 12 years. Sue Hi Doc, I think it's a bit much myself. Who cares? It DOES seem strange that he'd be doing this in a public area. Makes me wonder if there might be more to it. Like solicitation or something. Bill -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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moonshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ronald Helm wrote: "Ronald Helm" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rumor has it that Monica was sighted leaving the area, just before George Michael was arrested :-) Ron Mornin' Ron, Naw that was Newt Gingrich in a wig and some sexy black nightie. ...Mac Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-08 18:56:09 EDT, you write: Lewd conduct and he was alone. Use your collective imaginations folks, one way or another he was exposing his unit :-) Ron If that's all it was, every guy who uses a urinal could be arrested. Am I the only one who thinks this is much ado about nothing? Doc Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-08 18:38:58 EDT, you write: They still haven't said what he was doing, but they did say it was definately lewd. And that he was alone. Jacking off in the john -- what else could it have been? Doc (who can contain her shock, really) Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Sue, LOL.I've never really known any guys hanging around public restrooms masturbating together, if that is what you are referring to. However, I HAVE heard a lot about homosexual men hanging around public parks and rest rooms looking to hook up with other homosexual men to solicit sex, usually on a pay as you come basis. G As Vi correctly points out, everything right now is pure conjecture. But I find it very hard to believe that the cops would arrest someone for lewd behavior if he was alone in a public rest room masturbating. There is more to this than what we know right now, IMO. And his top ten excuses had me ROTF. Bill On Wed, 08 Apr 1998 20:02:21 -0700 Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: What happened is that there is a park in LA where guys hang around in the restroom doing what guys do when they hang around in the restrooms together. (trying to be nice) And there have been complaints from the neighbors. The cops went under cover and caught George Michael in the restroom doing whatever it was that he was doing. Actually that night they caught three other guys too, but none of them were famous so therefore they weren't in the news. _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Vi, Of course it's all speculation. All we know is the scant details reported so far. He could have been performing a vasectomy on himself. He could have been checking for melanoma. To read anything like him being high on coke or heroin at the time and flashed as a message of contempt for the police is pure conjecture at this time also. G Bill On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:56:38 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Bill, George Michael may hav e been "high"on coke or heroin at the time, and "flashed" as a message of contempt for the police. To read anything like solicitation into his act is pure conjecture at this time. He could also have been following the call of nature, which act was misundrtstood by the police. Vi ___ You wrote: Hi Doc, I think it's a bit much myself. Who cares? It DOES seem strange that he'd be doing this in a public area. Makes me wonder if there might be more to it. Like solicitation or something. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill: I really don't know what he was doing in there, and to tell you the truth I'm really not all that interested. LOL As far as I can see it, he was alone, and if that is how he gets his jollies, who am I to say anything. Now if he had of had a kid or someone who was unwilling with him, then that would be very different. I will agree that it isn't good for the neighborhood to have a gathering place like that. Especially when it could have been a kid that walked in instead of a cop. So I think that the cops are right in trying to get the guys to find another, more secluded place (preferably their own homes or a hotel room) to do whatever it is that they want to do. ;) Sue HI Sue, LOL.I've never really known any guys hanging around public restrooms masturbating together, if that is what you are referring to. However, I HAVE heard a lot about homosexual men hanging around public parks and rest rooms looking to hook up with other homosexual men to solicit sex, usually on a pay as you come basis. G As Vi correctly points out, everything right now is pure conjecture. But I find it very hard to believe that the cops would arrest someone for lewd behavior if he was alone in a public rest room masturbating. There is more to this than what we know right now, IMO. And his top ten excuses had me ROTF. Bill -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:38:47 EDT DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DocCec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 98-04-08 22:06:49 EDT, you write: I think it's a bit much myself. Who cares? It DOES seem strange that he'd be doing this in a public area. Makes me wonder if there might be more to it. Like solicitation or something. Bil Well, if he was alone, whom was he soliciting? Himself? Strange... Doc Hi Doc, I think the modus operandi for some of these things is for the guy doing the soliciting to expose himself in a public area and wait for someone to encounter him. Then, if the person seeing him is interested he will approach and make contact. It appears that is what happened here, except the guy who approached him was an undercover cop. But it's still impossible to know for sure what was really going on. Bill _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
