Re: [Lazarus] OT [Re: Why we chose Object Pascal instead]

2009-04-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Martin Friebe  wrote:
>
> Yeah, but where is the magazine: "The programmer's inside" ? Which
> compares individual programmers, and gives tips, whom to use for which
> purpose?

You don't need a magazine for that. You simply need the right person
to do the interview and give the candidates a skills test, relevant to
the job, to do. This immediately gets rid of most rubbish candidates.

Regards,
  - Graeme -


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Re: [Lazarus] OT [Re: Why we chose Object Pascal instead]

2009-04-15 Thread Giuliano Colla
Martin Friebe ha scritto:
> Giuliano Colla wrote:
>> Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ha scritto:
>>   
>>> And here is the best comment about it:
>>>
>>> Capt. Kirk:
>>> As a customer your choices are:
>>>
>>> 1. Hire an experienced competent developer who understands the library
>>> functions, knows how to write properly structured code with
>>> appropriate variable scope and data types, or
>>>
>>> 2. Hire someone who will produce what appears to be exactly the same output.
>>>
>>> As a customer who doesn't happen to be a developer himself, the above
>>> two options translate as:
>>>
>>> 1. Hire an expensive expensive expensive who expensive the expensive
>>> expensive, knows how to write expensive expensive code with expensive
>>> expensive expensive and expensive expensive, or
>>>
>>> 2. Save a bunch of money and get exactly the same thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>> The funny thing is that whoever buys a car, a drill, a mobile phone, 
>> whatever, knows very well that what is visible doesn't tell what's 
>> inside, how reliable it is, and so on, and looks for expert advice. A 
>> lot of publishers make money printing magazines which provide a better 
>> insight on cars, cameras, phones etc. etc.
>> Nonetheless, although everybody stumbles every day in the pitfalls of 
>> badly written software, it appears that very few apply to buying 
>> software the same kind of approach. :-(
>>   
> Yeah, but where is the magazine: "The programmer's inside" ? Which 
> compares individual programmers, and gives tips, whom to use for which 
> purpose?
> 

It's a classical egg-and-chicken problem. No magazine because of no 
interest or no interest because of no magazine?

However, there's no "Programmer's inside" but also no "Program's 
inside". When you read reviews about Windows Vista, or IPhone or 
whatever, they only tell you what any user would see. Not even a minimal 
effort to guess what's inside, and how well it's done. They check if a 
car leaks water when it rains, they don't check if a sequence of 
perfectly legal keystrokes or mouse movements can freeze Microsoft 
Office (it does).

Giuliano

-- 
Giuliano Colla

Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde)
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[Lazarus] OT [Re: Why we chose Object Pascal instead]

2009-04-15 Thread Martin Friebe
Giuliano Colla wrote:
> Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ha scritto:
>   
>> And here is the best comment about it:
>>
>> Capt. Kirk:
>> As a customer your choices are:
>>
>> 1. Hire an experienced competent developer who understands the library
>> functions, knows how to write properly structured code with
>> appropriate variable scope and data types, or
>>
>> 2. Hire someone who will produce what appears to be exactly the same output.
>>
>> As a customer who doesn't happen to be a developer himself, the above
>> two options translate as:
>>
>> 1. Hire an expensive expensive expensive who expensive the expensive
>> expensive, knows how to write expensive expensive code with expensive
>> expensive expensive and expensive expensive, or
>>
>> 2. Save a bunch of money and get exactly the same thing.
>>
>>
>> 
>
> The funny thing is that whoever buys a car, a drill, a mobile phone, 
> whatever, knows very well that what is visible doesn't tell what's 
> inside, how reliable it is, and so on, and looks for expert advice. A 
> lot of publishers make money printing magazines which provide a better 
> insight on cars, cameras, phones etc. etc.
> Nonetheless, although everybody stumbles every day in the pitfalls of 
> badly written software, it appears that very few apply to buying 
> software the same kind of approach. :-(
>   
Yeah, but where is the magazine: "The programmer's inside" ? Which 
compares individual programmers, and gives tips, whom to use for which 
purpose?

scnr

Martin




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