Re: [Lazarus] Crowdfunding to speed up the development of pas2js in Lazarus Widgetset and fpDebug to FPC
Am 22.12.2018 um 16:28 schrieb Maciej Izak via lazarus: As this is a pure FPC topic and has nothing to do with Lazarus anymore, I will not continue to discuss here. Feel free to raise it again in fpc-other. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crowdfunding to speed up the development of pas2js in Lazarus Widgetset and fpDebug to FPC
sob., 22 gru 2018 o 15:46 Florian Klämpfl via lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> napisał(a): > > Admin, lead of project, programmer and foundation ruler in one person? > > While it might be true or not if Michael takes all these "positions", he > does an incredible job for >20 years for > Lazarus and FPC. > I never said he is not doing incredible job. But in the case of conflict/problem he should not be a judge in his own case or without cool down period. I was just banned without any information what happened or without warning. Because of my stupid human emotions I started many stupid topics. Such acting is harmful to the project (including my acting). I was working many months to fix management operators problem. This was discussed directly with you, Sven and Michael Van Canneyt. Michael started incomprehensible FUD about this work in public mailing list. Without "code of conduct" such situation could happen again and again with other developers. I always follow the rules. But I can not read someone minds to know that I could be banned because I have other Open Source project... -- Best regards, Maciej Izak -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crowdfunding to speed up the development of pas2js in Lazarus Widgetset and fpDebug to FPC
Am 21.12.2018 um 20:48 schrieb Maciej Izak via lazarus: > > All is fine when someone has the same opinion like Michael Van Canneyt. The > style of communication with Michael is > visible in this thread, when he know he is not right he is just ignoring > messages, but he is first to throw the rock. He > is using power - not arguments. No one can do anything because he has full > control on all infrastructure. It is pretty simple: if the majority (or even a minority) thought, Michael would do a bad job, they could just fork FPC/Lazarus and prove they could do better. Obviously, the Lazarus/FPC mailing lists are not a place to discuss/advertise such a fork. > > Admin, lead of project, programmer and foundation ruler in one person? While it might be true or not if Michael takes all these "positions", he does an incredible job for >20 years for Lazarus and FPC. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crowdfunding to speed up the development of pas2js in Lazarus Widgetset and fpDebug to FPC
sob., 22 gru 2018 o 13:02 Marco van de Voort via lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> napisał(a): > Most importantly, Michael's conduct was discussed and held up by Core. > Several other members stated that Maciej was hard and draining to work > with, and saw no other way then postponing his privileges for the moment. > I was working on many things considered as controversial so I was discussing often, but in the final - compromise was always possible with gain for the project. The main problem was TOTAL LACK of any communication. I was never warned that something is wrong and how I can improve cooperation. I don't know why I don't got any message : Maciej - stop, we don't want such features. Then my focus could be different - finally there is many other bugs, features which could be my focus. The most curious thing is that I was never warned about that I should close down/stop NewPascal project (which was mentioned as one of reason of postponing my privileges). I don't see how using atomic/most draconian option on the start can help (without any communication). The same happens with foundation now - lack of info. -- Best regards, Maciej Izak -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Crowdfunding to speed up the development of pas2js in Lazarus Widgetset and fpDebug to FPC
Op 2018-12-21 om 21:59 schreef Travis Ayres via lazarus: When this issue cropped up on the mailing list, I went and reviewed the archive. You link to Michael finally "snapping", and even then he wasn't rude or out of place at all; I agree with Michael that the emails in the archives speak for themselves. Michael seems extremely patient and completely professional - traits that I find productive in any environment. He's given you multiple chances to drop it, and even offered to welcome you back if you changed your communication methods. You're clearly extremely talented - which is absolutely useless without the soft skills to get your changes considered effectively. Most importantly, Michael's conduct was discussed and held up by Core. Several other members stated that Maciej was hard and draining to work with, and saw no other way then postponing his privileges for the moment. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
