Re: [Lazarus] FPC 3.2.0RC1 released!

2020-03-29 Thread Ralf Quint via lazarus

On 3/29/2020 3:02 PM, Martin Frb via lazarus wrote:

On 29/03/2020 20:18, Marco van de Voort via lazarus wrote:

You can help improve the upcoming 3.2.0 release by downloading and
testing this release.


For anyone looking to test those with Lazarus on Windows.
I have build Lazarus installers for
 - Lazarus 2.1 (trunk) + FPC 3.2rc1


Thanks Martin, I will give this version a try, as I am using the current 
quarantine time to work on a couple of Lazarus based applications.


Ralf




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Re: [Lazarus] FPC 3.2.0RC1 released!

2020-03-29 Thread Martin Frb via lazarus

On 29/03/2020 20:18, Marco van de Voort via lazarus wrote:

You can help improve the upcoming 3.2.0 release by downloading and
testing this release.


For anyone looking to test those with Lazarus on Windows.
I have build Lazarus installers for
 - Lazarus 2.1 (trunk) + FPC 3.2rc1
 - Lazarus 2.0.7 (fixes 2.0) + FPC 3.2rc1

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus-snapshots/files/

Those installers
- offer the option of a 2ndary install. So your main install will not be 
affected.
- are otherwise untested (not installed them myself to verify that the 
installed files work)
- contain a "lazarus build" of FPC RC1. That is, like all releases, the 
included FPC is not downloaded from FPC, but build from SVN (in this 
case from the 3.2RC1 tag).
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Re: [Lazarus] FPC 3.2.0RC1 released!

2020-03-29 Thread Ralf Quint via lazarus

On 3/29/2020 2:11 PM, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote:



On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Ralf Quint via lazarus wrote:


On 3/29/2020 11:18 AM, Marco van de Voort via lazarus wrote:


Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.2.0 There is currently no 
text in this page.


So there are NO changes that break backwards compatibility?


There was a typo in the URL:

https://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.2 


Ok, thanks, that looks a bit different. Was getting my hopes up for a 
moment... ;-)


Ralf



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Re: [Lazarus] FPC 3.2.0RC1 released!

2020-03-29 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus



On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Ralf Quint via lazarus wrote:


On 3/29/2020 11:18 AM, Marco van de Voort via lazarus wrote:


Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.2.0 
There is currently no text in this page.


So there are NO changes that break backwards compatibility?


There was a typo in the URL:

https://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.2

Michael.
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Re: [Lazarus] FPC 3.2.0RC1 released!

2020-03-29 Thread Ralf Quint via lazarus

On 3/29/2020 11:18 AM, Marco van de Voort via lazarus wrote:


Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.2.0 
There is currently no text in this page.


So there are NO changes that break backwards compatibility?

Ralf


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[Lazarus] FPC 3.2.0RC1 released!

2020-03-29 Thread Marco van de Voort via lazarus

Hello,

We have placed the first release candidate of the Free Pascal Compiler
version 3.2.0 on our ftp servers.

You can help improve the upcoming 3.2.0 release by downloading and
testing this release. If you want you can report what you have done here:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Testers_3.2.0 or in the maillist.

Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.2.0

Downloads are available at the main FTP server,

ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/beta/3.2.0-rc1/

Enjoy!

The Free Pascal Compiler Team

For an overview of what is new see

https://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_New_Features_3.2

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Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-29 Thread Anthony Walter via lazarus
Teresa, thank you for your considered opinion.

I agree with most of what you said, but with regards to the option of
moving back to Windows, for me that is a non starter. I don't use Linux
rather than Window because of some technical benefit. The primary reason I
use Linux because I don't want to worry around my privacy being
compromised, either from malware or viruses which are a big problem with
Windows or from software vendors themselves be it Microsoft telemetry or
other spying features that now a days so commonly bundled with 1st, 2nd,
and 3rd part software on Windows. These problems are pretty much non
existent on Linux.

I also value the efficiency of Linux. I have all processing speed and file
system the room I need on a 2008 Core2Duo, 4GB or RAM, and a 60GB SSD using
Linux, even with the newest distros. On the latest Windows 10, not so much.
Just getting the OS installed is about 30GB. And yes this is a big deal for
me because I always have 10 or more of these laptops on hand and use them
to teach my students basic computers usage, online safety, and programming.
Even if I wasn't using these machine for teaching, they still make for
great everyday computers when running Linux. Using them with the most
recent Windows, not so much.

My complaints, as you expanded upon, center mostly around the fractured
nature of the Linux desktop ecosystem. Even popular distros such as Ubuntu
break things from release to release. Windows seems to always try to
protect that backward compatibility, at least since they made the move to a
true 32 bit OS. Of course with Windows upgrades some hardware is no longer
supported (I can't use the Canon photo capture system on other than XP),
but most of the time everything still works.

Thanks again for your considerate thoughts.
Anthony
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Re: [Lazarus] The Problem with the Linux Desktop

2020-03-29 Thread Sven Barth via lazarus
leledumbo via lazarus  schrieb am So., 29.
März 2020, 05:48:

> > The model to download applications and install on a random distro+version
> simply doesn't exist on Linux.
>
> Snap, AppImage, Flatpak are purposely targeting this. It's partially
> successful, but as with many things in Linux, they're competing instead of
> working together.
>

And if there's a security problem in one of the used libraries you need to
update all these containers instead of just updating the library - if the
provider of the container even provides an updated container. Yay. Not. -.-

Regards,
Sven

>
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