Re: [Lazarus] Losing desktop when restarting Lazarus - where are desktop settings saved?

[Jean SUZINEAU via lazarus]

I guess this settings are saved in the .lps file of your project.

In my own lps files, I can find the units opened in the code editor, my 
debug watches ...


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[Lazarus] Losing desktop when restarting Lazarus - where are desktop settings saved?

[Bo Berglund via lazarus]

Now it happened again!
I closed Lazarus on a Raspberry Pi4 accessed via VNC. Then I started
it again and now only the code editor window appears, all other
windows for my desktop have disappeared!!! :(

Question:
-
In which file is the desktop settings saved?
I need to restore that file so I don't have to frequently start over
with a botched Lazarus desktop and reconfigure it as I like.

Note that the editor settings seem OK, at least by my custom color
scheme, which is present in the single window that now appears.

I did copy all of the *files* in ~/.lazarus_2.0.8 into archive
settings_20201221.tgz in a backup subdirectory on Dec 21, but I do not
know in which file Lazarus stores the desktop settings so I can
restore that file.

At the time I had saved the custom desktop by a name but that is no
longer available when I look at "Tools/Desktops.../Manage Desktops".

Lazarus 2.0.8 / Fpc 3.0.4 on Raspberry Pi4 (4GB RAM)


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Re: [Lazarus] *** SPAM *** Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Ralf Quint via lazarus]

On 12/26/2020 1:56 AM, Jean SUZINEAU via lazarus wrote:

It's nice that Embarcadero comes back to a Pascal IDE build with Pascal.

It's seems this IDE is compiled with Delphi 7, with .bat and .exe 
files, I imagine it's windows only ?


Yes, it is Windows only and it is not a Pascal IDE, but a *C++ IDE*.

They picked up an abandoned Open Source C++ IDE called "Dev C++", which 
by itself was a fork of an abandoned Open Source C++ IDE called 
"Bloodshed C++". And that one was written in Delphi starting back in 
1998, many, many moons ago. Lazarus had it's first beta version out in 
2003.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dev-C%2B%2B

Ralf




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Re: [Lazarus] *** SPAM *** Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Ralf Quint via lazarus]

On 12/26/2020 3:15 AM, Anthony Walter via lazarus wrote:
Why was the subject of my submission changed with "*** SPAM ***" 
inserted?


Curious


It is not your submission but the reply of someone else, who's email 
server had a spam filter triggered, possibly a false positive of your 
message on their system through a misconfiguration.


I see your original message just fine, without the spam tag...


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Re: [Lazarus] Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[gabor via lazarus]

W dniu 2020-12-26 o 10:05, Anthony Walter via lazarus pisze:
I thought this bit of information might be of interest and useful to us 
Lazarus people.


Apparently Embarcadero has forked the Bloodshed IDE 
 
and rewritten it to run natively using Delphi. Although this is a C++ 
IDE, it's lightweight, fast, and free open source software. It may be 
worth our effort to examine it and see if it contains any parts that are 
innovative, then either fork or be inspired by some of their code to 
bring about Lazarus enhancements.


I believe this is totally within the spirit of the open source movement. 
At the minimum it would be nice to look at the Pascal source code of 
another IDE and determine how someone else has decided to implement 
existing and different features, laying the way for using that knowledge 
to improve upon Lazarus.


https://blogs.embarcadero.com/dev-c-is-a-low-memory-windows-native-c-ide-built-in-delphi/ 





Dev-Pascal - probably my first contact with Free Pascal (about 20 years 
ago?).


Michał.
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Re: [Lazarus] Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Jean SUZINEAU via lazarus]

Sorry, I didn't notice.

I think it's my mail provider Orange/Wanadoo, the french phone operator.

Sometimes they arbitrarily insert *** SPAM *** in the subject of some 
mails before I receive them .


I should have removed it by hand.

Le 26/12/2020 à 12:15, Anthony Walter via lazarus a écrit :
Why was the subject of my submission changed with "*** SPAM ***" 
inserted?


Curious

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Re: [Lazarus] Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Jean SUZINEAU via lazarus]

+1
I agree

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Re: [Lazarus] *** SPAM *** Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Anthony Walter via lazarus]

Why was the subject of my submission changed with "*** SPAM ***" inserted?

Curious
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Re: [Lazarus] *** SPAM *** Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Graeme Geldenhuys via lazarus]

On 26/12/2020 9:56 am, Jean SUZINEAU via lazarus wrote:
> It's seems this IDE is compiled with Delphi 7, with .bat and .exe files, 
> I imagine it's windows only ?
> 
> May be it would have been nice that they sponsor Lazarus ;-) ?

In my honest opinion, I don't think there is anything WE can learn from
Embarcadero (other than how not to do things). But I do believe there is
a lot they can learn from us.

The Free Pascal and Larazus community should be leading the future of the
Object Pascal languge, not Embarcadero.

Regards,
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Re: [Lazarus] Issues getting sources from the repository

[Graeme Geldenhuys via lazarus]

On 26/12/2020 9:37 am, Лев Бронштейн via lazarus wrote:
> I wanted to find out the reason why the server is constantly connecting. 
> This has been happening regularly lately.

Feel free to try out the unofficial Lazarus Git mirror. It tracks the "master"
branch only, fetches the latest commit every 15 minutes. It might be unofficial,
but has been running for the last 8 years already. :-)

First time only:
  git clone https://github.com/graemeg/lazarus.git

Subsequent updates:
  cd lazarus
  git pull


More details here:
  https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/git_mirrors
Regards,
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Re: [Lazarus] Issues getting sources from the repository

[Juha Manninen via lazarus]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:41 AM Лев Бронштейн via lazarus <
lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote:

> Hmmm... You are probably right. I recently changed my wifi router and
> internet provider
>

It would be nice to know why only the FPC's Subversion installation is so
sensitive. Now at least 3 people have had problems with it.
For me everything else worked. Big downloads, streaming HD
video, Subversion in Sourceforge ...
I guess I would still happily use my old router without this one single
problem with FPC's Subversion.

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Re: [Lazarus] *** SPAM *** Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Jean SUZINEAU via lazarus]

It's nice that Embarcadero comes back to a Pascal IDE build with Pascal.

It's seems this IDE is compiled with Delphi 7, with .bat and .exe files, 
I imagine it's windows only ?


May be it would have been nice that they sponsor Lazarus ;-) ?

Lazarus runs on nearly every platform where you want to develop, 
Windows, x86 Linux, Raspberry, Mac ...


I imagine it would be complicated to reconcile the delphi bpl package 
concept with lazarus package concept.


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Re: [Lazarus] Issues getting sources from the repository

[Лев Бронштейн via lazarus]

Hi Juha.
Hmmm... You are probably right. I recently changed my wifi router and 
internet provider


Juha Manninen via lazarus  26 декабря 2020 
г. 12:24:47 ПП написал:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 2:49 AM Leyba Bronstain via lazarus 
 wrote:



Somebody tell me pls, what happened?

It might be the same problem that I had earlier this year. On my Linux I got :
svn: E120106: ra_serf: The server sent a truncated HTTP response body.
again and again after just a few files were updated. All other internet 
traffic worked, including streaming videos.
I have a Wifi router using 4G mobile phone network. It turned out to be 
bad. I tested with my Android phone as a Wifi hotspot and "svn co" worked. 
Then I bought a new router.
Maxim Ganetsky had a similar problem on Windows and the reason was buggy 
WiFi drivers.



It is a mystery why only Subversion in the FPC server is sensitive for the 
internet connection quality. Subversion in SourceForge worked.



Regards,
Juha


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Re: [Lazarus] Issues getting sources from the repository

[Лев Бронштейн via lazarus]

Hi Sven. Thank you for answer. But...
I wanted to find out the reason why the server is constantly connecting. 
This has been happening regularly lately.


Sven Barth via lazarus  26 декабря 2020 г. 
12:05:50 ПП написал:
Leyba Bronstain via lazarus  schrieb am Sa., 
26. Dez. 2020, 01:49:

Hi guys.

When I try to get the fpc/lazarus source code from the repository using the 
svn-client, the server drops the connection. These cases are observed 
several times during the process. I have to run the svn client several 
times. It looks something like this

C:\Users\leyba>md c:\test
C:\Users\leyba>cd c:\test
C:\test>svn co https://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc_trunk
Afpc_trunk\compiler

svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed the 
connection.

C:\test>svn cleanup fpc_trunk
C:\test>svn co https://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc_trunk

etc.

Somebody tell me pls, what happened?
Instead of cleanup and another checkout simply change into the directory 
and do a "svn update" which will continue the checkout. Repeat until done.


Regards,
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Re: [Lazarus] Issues getting sources from the repository

[Juha Manninen via lazarus]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 2:49 AM Leyba Bronstain via lazarus <
lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote:

> Somebody tell me pls, what happened?
>
It might be the same problem that I had earlier this year. On my Linux I
got :
 svn: E120106: ra_serf: The server sent a truncated HTTP response body.
again and again after just a few files were updated. All other internet
traffic worked, including streaming videos.
I have a Wifi router using 4G mobile phone network. It turned out to be
bad. I tested with my Android phone as a Wifi hotspot and "svn co" worked.
Then I bought a new router.
Maxim Ganetsky had a similar problem on Windows and the reason was buggy
WiFi drivers.

It is a mystery why only Subversion in the FPC server is sensitive for the
internet connection quality. Subversion in SourceForge worked.

Regards,
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[Lazarus] Open Source IDE Written Using Delphi

[Anthony Walter via lazarus]

I thought this bit of information might be of interest and useful to us
Lazarus people.

Apparently Embarcadero has forked the Bloodshed IDE

and rewritten it to run natively using Delphi. Although this is a C++ IDE,
it's lightweight, fast, and free open source software. It may be worth our
effort to examine it and see if it contains any parts that are innovative,
then either fork or be inspired by some of their code to bring about
Lazarus enhancements.

I believe this is totally within the spirit of the open source movement. At
the minimum it would be nice to look at the Pascal source code of another
IDE and determine how someone else has decided to implement existing and
different features, laying the way for using that knowledge to improve upon
Lazarus.

https://blogs.embarcadero.com/dev-c-is-a-low-memory-windows-native-c-ide-built-in-delphi/
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Re: [Lazarus] Issues getting sources from the repository

[Sven Barth via lazarus]

Leyba Bronstain via lazarus  schrieb am Sa.,
26. Dez. 2020, 01:49:

> Hi guys.
>
> When I try to get the fpc/lazarus source code from the repository using
> the svn-client, the server drops the connection. These cases are observed
> several times during the process. I have to run the svn client several
> times. It looks something like this
>
> C:\Users\leyba>md c:\test
> C:\Users\leyba>cd c:\test
> C:\test>svn co https://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc_trunk
> Afpc_trunk\compiler
> 
> svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed the
> connection.
> C:\test>svn cleanup fpc_trunk
> C:\test>svn co https://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc_trunk
>
> etc.
>
> Somebody tell me pls, what happened?
>

Instead of cleanup and another checkout simply change into the directory
and do a "svn update" which will continue the checkout. Repeat until done.

Regards,
Sven

>
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