Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus and ZeosDBO
Thank You. On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 22:06 +0300, Sergey Bodrov wrote: > 1. Main menu -> Package -> Online Package Manager2. Enter 'zeos' into > filter field > 3. Check the ZeosDBO package and push Install button > 4. Rebuild Lazarus > > Zeos components will be at 'Zeos Access' tab on components palette > > пн, 18 окт. 2021 г. в 21:24, Terry A. Haimann via lazarus < > lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org>: > > I would like to have explicit instructions on installing Lazarus > > > > including the ZeosDBO components for not only a Linux setup, but > > also > > > > Windows setup. > > > > > > > > I first installed Ubuntu Linux and then installed the Debian files > > for > > > > Lazarus. > > > > > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 terry terry 38999400 Sep 20 13:35 fpc-laz_3.2.0- > > > > 1_amd64.deb > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 terry terry 30468282 Sep 20 13:35 fpc-src_3.2.0- > > > > 1_amd64.deb > > > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 terry terry 115581820 Sep 20 13:36 lazarus- > > > > project_2.0.12-0_amd64.deb > > > > > > > > > > > > First I installed the fpc source, followed by the compiler and then > > > > Lazarus itself. Fine, I had a good copy of Lazarus installed. Now > > I > > > > tried adding ZeosDBO. I tried both of the following additions. > > They > > > > do not compile as I discussed in a previous email. > > > > > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 terry terry1629443 Nov 5 2013 ZEOSDBO-7.0.3- > > > > stable.zip > > > > -rw--- 1 terry terry1786857 Feb 13 2014 ZEOSDBO-7.1.3a- > > > > stable.zip > > > > > > > > I REALLY want to teach a free class on using Lazarus. But if I > > cannot > > > > explain to the students how to install the compiler with all of the > > > > tools working, I might as well give up on the idea. > > > > > > > > Terry H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > > > lazarus mailing list > > > > lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org > > > > https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus > > > > > -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus and ZeosDBO
I would like to have explicit instructions on installing Lazarus including the ZeosDBO components for not only a Linux setup, but also Windows setup. I first installed Ubuntu Linux and then installed the Debian files for Lazarus. -rw-rw-r-- 1 terry terry 38999400 Sep 20 13:35 fpc-laz_3.2.0- 1_amd64.deb -rw-rw-r-- 1 terry terry 30468282 Sep 20 13:35 fpc-src_3.2.0- 1_amd64.deb -rw-rw-r-- 1 terry terry 115581820 Sep 20 13:36 lazarus- project_2.0.12-0_amd64.deb First I installed the fpc source, followed by the compiler and then Lazarus itself. Fine, I had a good copy of Lazarus installed. Now I tried adding ZeosDBO. I tried both of the following additions. They do not compile as I discussed in a previous email. -rw-r--r-- 1 terry terry1629443 Nov 5 2013 ZEOSDBO-7.0.3- stable.zip -rw--- 1 terry terry1786857 Feb 13 2014 ZEOSDBO-7.1.3a- stable.zip I REALLY want to teach a free class on using Lazarus. But if I cannot explain to the students how to install the compiler with all of the tools working, I might as well give up on the idea. Terry H. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] e: Lazarus - Cant compile ZeosDBO
I beleive it rescanned correctly. The popup errors have gone away. But it will still not compile ZeosDBO, I am satill getting that original compile errors. If you need to see the files, let me know where to send them to. > On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:02:05 -0500 > "Terry A. Haimann via lazarus" wrote: > > > I went back and fired up Lazarus as my regular user and I got > > several > > popups complaining about the installation. So this may be the > > problem > > even though I don't see the actual problem. As I said before, this > > is > > an Intel i5 (112th Gen) and the OS is currently Ubuntu 21.02. I > > installed this from the current Debian Packages I found on your web > > site. > > > > Popup 1: > > > > The current FPC has no config file. It will probably miss some > > units. > > Check your installation of fpc. > > > > terry@quickfox:~$ sudo ls -la /etc/fpc.* > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7794 Sep 20 13:37 /etc/fpc.cfg > > Just to make sure, please do: > IDE menu Tools / Rescan FPC Source directory > > Then check: > View / IDE Internals / About FPC > > Does it use the correct fpc? > > Mattias -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] e: Lazarus - Cant compile ZeosDBO
I went back and fired up Lazarus as my regular user and I got several popups complaining about the installation. So this may be the problem even though I don't see the actual problem. As I said before, this is an Intel i5 (112th Gen) and the OS is currently Ubuntu 21.02. I installed this from the current Debian Packages I found on your web site. Popup 1: The current FPC has no config file. It will probably miss some units. Check your installation of fpc. terry@quickfox:~$ sudo ls -la /etc/fpc.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7794 Sep 20 13:37 /etc/fpc.cfg I have looked over the config file and it looks very similar to the config file on my old laptop. The compiler points to /usr/bin/fpc which does exist. Don't know where fpc defines it's source directories. terry@quickfox:~$ ls -la /usr/bin/fpc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508112 Jul 6 2020 /usr/bin/fpc Popup 2: The project uses target OS=linux and CPU=x86_64. The system.ppu for this target was not found in the FPC binary directoies. Make sure fpc is installed correctly for this target and the fpc.cfg contains the right directories. ls -la /usr/lib/fpc/3.2.0/units/x86_64-linux/rtl/system.ppu -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 882770 Jul 6 2020 /usr/lib/fpc/3.2.0/units/x86_64-linux/rtl/system.ppu I don't know where the rtl is defined in Lazarus, but the file is there. Also, I have compiled a few toy pascal programs and they seem to compile and run fine. Lazarus seems to compile them too after complaining. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus - Cant compile ZeosDBO
I don't understand what you are doing here. All I want is access to MariaDB. I beleive it is using mysql80conn. Terry On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 09:38 +0200, Luca Olivetti via lazarus wrote: > El 19/9/21 a les 23:39, Terry A. Haimann via lazarus ha escrit: > > I just bought a new laptop and tring to set up Lazarus. The > > problem is > > installing ZeosDBO into Lazarus. > > This is the version of zeosdbo I have installed, both under windows > and > linux (I don't know if I should use any later or previous version, > this > one seems to be working fine for my projects): > > $ svn info > Path: . > Working Copy Root Path: /home/luca/Datos/lazextra/zeosdbo/7.2-patches > URL: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/zeoslib/code-0/branches/7.2-patches > Relative URL: ^/branches/7.2-patches > Repository Root: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/zeoslib/code-0 > Repository UUID: d681b350-854c-439c-a81d-c0ce20710203 > Revision: 5601 > Node Kind: directory > Schedule: normal > Last Changed Author: egonhugeist > Last Changed Rev: 5597 > Last Changed Date: 2019-04-18 21:29:12 +0200 (dj., 18 d’abr. 2019) > > > I have a local patch applied but it's only for postgresql > > $ svn diff > Index: src/dbc/ZDbcPostgreSql.pas > === > --- src/dbc/ZDbcPostgreSql.pas (revision 5601) > +++ src/dbc/ZDbcPostgreSql.pas (working copy) > @@ -566,6 +566,12 @@ > if Info.Values['sslrootcert'] <> '' then > AddParamToResult('sslrootcert', Info.Values['sslrootcert']); > if Info.Values['sslcrl'] <> '' then AddParamToResult('sslcrl', > Info.Values['sslcrl']); > > + { tcp keepalives } > + if Info.Values['keepalives'] <> '' then > AddParamToResult('keepalives',Info.Values['keepalives']); > + if Info.Values['keepalives_idle'] <> '' then > AddParamToResult('keepalives_idle',Info.Values['keepalives_idle']); > + if Info.Values['keepalives_interval'] <> '' then > AddParamToResult('keepalives_interval',Info.Values['keepalives_interv > al']); > + if Info.Values['keepalives_count'] <> '' then > AddParamToResult('keepalives_count',Info.Values['keepalives_count']); > + > { Sets a connection timeout. } > ConnectTimeout := StrToIntDef(Info.Values['timeout'], -1); > if ConnectTimeout >= 0 then > @@ -1083,7 +1089,7 @@ > DriverManager.LogMessage(lcTransaction, > ConSettings^.Protocol, > cCommit); > PError := > FPlainDriver.GetResultErrorField(QueryHandle,PG_DIAG_SQLSTATE); > //transaction aborted and in postre zombi status? If so a > rollback is required > - if (ZSysUtils.ZMemLComp(PError, > current_transaction_is_aborted, > 5) = 0) then begin > + if (PError<>nil) and (Perror^ <> #0) and > (ZSysUtils.ZMemLComp(PError, current_transaction_is_aborted, 5) = 0) > then begin > FPlainDriver.PQclear(QueryHandle); > QueryHandle := FPlainDriver.ExecuteQuery(FHandle, > Pointer(cRollback)); > end; > > > Bye > -- > Luca Olivetti > Wetron Automation Technology http://www.wetron.es/ > Tel. +34 93 5883004 (Ext.3010) Fax +34 93 5883007 -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus - Cant compile ZeosDBO
Well, how do you install something like ZeosDBO then? If the compile is successful, it is going to want to rebuild Lazarus and Lazarus is in a protected directory. Terry On Mon, 2021-09-20 at 09:45 +0200, Mattias Gaertner via lazarus wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 16:39:01 -0500 > "Terry A. Haimann via lazarus" wrote: > > > [...] > > I ran startlazarus as root > > ouch > > Not recommended. > > Mattias -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus - Cant compile ZeosDBO
I just bought a new laptop and tring to set up Lazarus. The problem is installing ZeosDBO into Lazarus. This is on Linux Mint/Mate 20.2 on an i5-1135G7 fpc -v Free Pascal Compiler version 3.2.0 [2020/07/07] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2020 by Florian Klaempfl and others Fatal: No source file name in command line Fatal: Compilation aborted Error: /usr/bin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode Lazarus Ver 2.0.12 Date 2021-02-21 /home/terry/ZeosDBO/src/plain/ZPlainFirebirdDriver.pas(249,26) Error: (5042) No matching implementation for interface method "Initialize(const AnsiString);" found /home/terry/ZeosDBO/src/plain/ZPlainFirebirdDriver.pas(249,26) Error: (5042) No matching implementation for interface method "Initialize(const AnsiString);" found /home/terry/ZeosDBO/src/plain/ZPlainFirebirdDriver.pas(528,1) Fatal: (10026) There were 2 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: (1018) Compilation aborted Error: /usr/bin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode I am getting two errors when trying to compile and this seems to be the line it is complaining about: TZFirebirdBaseDriver = class (TZAbstractPlainDriver, IZPlainDriver, IZInterbasePlainDriver) FIREBIRD_API : TZFIREBIRD_API; I ran startlazarus as root and then did a Package->Open Package File(lpk) I then pointed it to ZeosDBO/packages/lazarus/zcomponent.lpk and clicked compile button. The file it is failing on is ZPlainFirebirdDriver. Thanks for your attention. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] fpccfg is missing in new Lazarus install
I just did a fresh install of Lazarus and it says the fpc.cfg file isn't found. These are the files I used to install lazarus with: fpc-src_2.6.2-0_amd64.deb fpc_2.6.2-0_amd64.deb lazarus_1.0.10-0_amd64. I ran a search for fpc.cfg and ffound these files: /home/terry/Downloads/fpc.cfg /etc/fpc.cfg ls -la /etc/fpc.cfg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7799 May 14 08:09 /etc/fpc.cfg Where does the file need to be inorder for Lazarus to find it? This is a Linux Mint 19.2 desktop using Mate and the processor is a i7- 8700, 16gb of ram. Terry -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus/Zoom Conflict
Hello, I have a number of Lazarus Apps that I use. They were working fine before I installed Zoom. Now all of the database edit fields when I type in them double entry. If I type -2.5, I get "--22..55" I am running Linux Mint Mate 18.3 cpu i7-8700 I have checked on my laptop and the apps behave normally, which I have not installed Zoom on. Any suggestions? I have tried uninstalling Zoom, but the problem still persists. I really don't want to do a reinstall of the os, and that would have to wait until midweek. Terry H. -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Loading an image to a mysql blob
I had already tried that. I clicked on edit from the dbnavigator, uploaded the image and clicked post. That is when the program would crash. I have taken the program a different route, gotten rid of the blob and replaced it with a varchar. The varchar now has the filename of the jpeg. It's not fast, but it works. Terry On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 11:17 +0100, John Landmesser via Lazarus wrote: > Am 31.10.18 um 13:05 schrieb Terry A. Haimann via Lazarus: > > > > I tried loading an image into a Medium Blob. The image uploads and > > shows up on my form, but when I click post on my DbNavigator the > > program gives me an access violation. > > > > Here is the source code: > > > > procedure TPropertyForm.ImgButClick(Sender: TObject); > > Var > > MyImageFile, MyDir: String; > > begin > > MyImageFile := '/'; > > if OpenDialog1.Execute then > > begin > > MyImageFile := OpenDialog1.Filename; > > end; > > DbPropImg.Picture.Jpeg.LoadFromFile(MyImageFile); > > > > End; > > > > Am I missing something I have to do? The blob should be large > > enough, > > they are supposed to be able to hold 16 Meg and the jpegs are > > running > > about 2 - 3 meg. I am running Mint 18.3, using Mysql 5.7.22 and > > using > > ZeosDBO. > > > > Terry Haimann > .. perhaps a Dataset.edit before > > DbPropImg.Picture.Jpeg.LoadFromFile(MyImageFile); > > > > DbPropImg.Picture.Jpeg.LoadFromFile(MyImageFile); > -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Loading an image to a mysql blob
I tried loading an image into a Medium Blob. The image uploads and shows up on my form, but when I click post on my DbNavigator the program gives me an access violation. Here is the source code: procedure TPropertyForm.ImgButClick(Sender: TObject); Var MyImageFile, MyDir: String; begin MyImageFile := '/'; if OpenDialog1.Execute then begin MyImageFile := OpenDialog1.Filename; end; DbPropImg.Picture.Jpeg.LoadFromFile(MyImageFile); End; Am I missing something I have to do? The blob should be large enough, they are supposed to be able to hold 16 Meg and the jpegs are running about 2 - 3 meg. I am running Mint 18.3, using Mysql 5.7.22 and using ZeosDBO. Terry Haimann -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus and Linked Lists
Is there any documentation on using this object? On Wed, 2018-06-27 at 13:06 +0200, Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 05:57:12 -0500 > "Terry A. Haimann via Lazarus" wrote: > > > > > Dumb question, > > > > Is there a basic linked List object for Lazarus? > Have you seen the answer on the fpc list? > > http://lists.freepascal.org/pipermail/fpc-pascal/2018-June/054287.htm > l > > Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus and Linked Lists
Dumb question, Is there a basic linked List object for Lazarus? Terry Haimann -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] I am trying to install zeosdbo onto my Lazarus install
I am trying to install zeosdbo onto my Lazarus install and am getting the following error during the rebuild: Build IDE: Exit code 512, Errors: 1 lazarus.pp(1,1) Fatal: Cannot find aarrebase used by Lazarus. Check if package aarrebase creates aarrebase.ppu, check nothing deletes this file and check that no two packages have access to the unit source.. Lazarus version: Lazarus 1.8.2+dfsg-3 rDebian package 1.8.2+dfsg-3 FPC 3.0.4 x86_64-linux-gtk2 This was installed from apt-get for Ubuntu 18.04 This was using: ZEOSDBO-7.1.3a-stable.zip -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Howto uninstall Lazarus and reinstall
On Mon, 2018-05-28 at 00:43 +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2018 15:04:09 -0500 > "Terry A. Haimann via Lazarus" wrote: > > > > > My Lazarus install seems messed up. > Why 'seems'? > What is the error message? I am getting many duplicate errors like the following: Note: Duplicate unit "ZDbcLogging" in "zcore 7.1", orphaned ppu "/home/terry/zeosdbo/ZEOSDBO-7.1.3a-stable/packages/lazarus/lib/x86_64- linux/ZDbcLogging.ppu" So I think I messed up the zeosdbo install. Also this line isn't compiling, so I think a library might be missing. Chart2PieSeries1.AddPie(SaveRec.EV, State, clRed); > > > > > > It is version 1.8.2 and it was > > installed from the download and after downloading from the website > > it > > auto install by what I am assuming is dpk. > Do you mean deb? Yes. > > > > > > Frree Pascal seems to be > > fine. > > > > I am running Linux Mint 18.3 > > > > What would be my best method to remove Lazarus and reinstall. > Uninstall: > dpkg --purge lazarus > > Maybe you messed up your configs. Rename or remove ~/.lazarus > > Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Howto uninstall Lazarus and reinstall
My Lazarus install seems messed up. It is version 1.8.2 and it was installed from the download and after downloading from the website it auto install by what I am assuming is dpk. Frree Pascal seems to be fine. I am running Linux Mint 18.3 What would be my best method to remove Lazarus and reinstall. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] SimpleIPC
I have fpc 2.6.4 and I can't find such an examples directory. It's on a Linux Mint install. On Sat, 2017-10-14 at 18:33 -0300, Marcos Douglas B. Santos wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Terry A. Haimann via Lazarus > wrote: > > I would like to see a example program forSimpleIPC Server and client. > > It would be most helpful if these were cli programs so that I could see > > what libraries were required. > > There are some examples in \packages\fcl-process\examples directory. > > Regards, > Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] SimpleIPC
I would like to see a example program forSimpleIPC Server and client. It would be most helpful if these were cli programs so that I could see what libraries were required. Thx in advance, TH -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Lazarus and MySQL 5.7
What version of Lazarus can connect to MySQL 5.7 using TSqlConnector? My laptop has 1.6 and does not seem to be able to connect using that component. Thx,Terry -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Can't add new form to Lazarus App
On Thu, 2016-09-29 at 13:17 +0200, Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 05:59:49 -0500 > "Terry A. Haimann" wrote: > > >[...] > > > What means messed up? It's an empty form, isn't it? > > > > The new form and it's source will not compile unless i comment out the: > > > > {$I unit1.lrs} > > > > I tried renaming unit1 to the new unit name, but it did not like the lrs > > file. It refused to compile. > > How did you create the form? > Can you post the first few lines of the unit1.lrs? > > Mattias I created the form by clicking on NewForm and then I tried to rename it from the Object Inspector. I am running Lazarus 1.2.4 This app has probably been used by several versions of Lazarus. Terry It renamed it to the new filename: { This is an automatically generated lazarus resource file } LazarusResources.Add('TStRschForm','FORMDATA',[ 'TPF0'#11'TStRschForm'#10'StRschForm'#4'Left'#3#235#0#6'Height'#3#240#0#3'Top' +#3#145#0#5'Width'#3#250#2#7'Caption'#6#10'StRschForm'#12'ClientHeight'#3#240 +#0#11'ClientWidth'#3#250#2#10'LCLVersion'#6#7'1.2.4.0'#0#6'TLabel'#6'Label1' +#4'Left'#2#24#6'Height'#2#15#3'Top'#2#30#5'Width'#2#23#7'Caption'#6#4'Test' +#11'ParentColor'#8#0#0#0 ]); -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Can't add new form to Lazarus App
On Thu, 2016-09-29 at 09:57 +0200, Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:49:15 -0500 > "Terry A. Haimann via Lazarus" wrote: > > > On an old Lazarus app (Linux) today I tried to add a form and got the > > Do you mean add a new empty form or add an existing form? A new form. > > > following: > > > > http://www.haimann.us/Images/Test.png > > I recommend to adapt the $mode and $H directive in the main source > (usually projectname.lpr). > > > > After selecting this option, the new form appears messed up. > > What means messed up? It's an empty form, isn't it? The new form and it's source will not compile unless i comment out the: {$I unit1.lrs} I tried renaming unit1 to the new unit name, but it did not like the lrs file. It refused to compile. > > > > At the > > botton of the unit.pas file the following is displayed: > > > > initialization > > {$I unit1.lrs} > > > > Even after I save the unit under another name. After compilation when > > the form is displayed via a show.modal, the form is blank. > > Is there someway to repair this app > > How do you create the form? > > Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] Can't add new form to Lazarus App
On an old Lazarus app (Linux) today I tried to add a form and got the following: http://www.haimann.us/Images/Test.png After selecting this option, the new form appears messed up. At the botton of the unit.pas file the following is displayed: initialization {$I unit1.lrs} Even after I save the unit under another name. After compilation when the form is displayed via a show.modal, the form is blank. Is there someway to repair this app -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus