Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On Tue, 4 Jul 2017, Marcos Douglas B. Santos via Lazarus wrote: Hi, Direct to the subject: Can I create Apps for Android and iOS using Lazarus nowadays? I've seen frameworks like Castle-Engine that have a Tool which claims to be more easy to building and packaging Apps: https://github.com/castle-engine/castle-engine/wiki/Build-Tool This framework looks like a piece of art, but I'm more interested to build business applications with Forms, Grids, Lists and so on. I believe that Ionic framework is a good choice to build mobile apps, but if could have such apps using Free Pascal and Lazarus, would be nice. Can I do that using Lazarus and its default widgets? You can create some form of apps using the customdrawn widgetset, but I cannot honestly recommend this approach. I do not think it works on iOS (I could be mistaken) and it looks simply abysmal on android. I have created some android apps using the FPC JVM compiler, but then you need to start all over for iOS. I believe there is still some iOS desiger package by Joost van der Sluis. So at the moment the developer experience would not be very good, I think you're better off using a HTML5 based Ionic app. Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > You can create some form of apps using the customdrawn > widgetset, but I cannot honestly recommend this approach. I do not think it > works on iOS (I could be mistaken) and it looks simply abysmal on android. > > I have created some android apps using the FPC JVM compiler, but then you > need to start all over for iOS. I believe there is still some iOS desiger > package by Joost van der Sluis. > > So at the moment the developer experience would not be very good, I think > you're better off using a HTML5 based Ionic app. > Ok Michael, thanks for the advice. Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On 04.07.2017 08:04, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote: So at the moment the developer experience would not be very good, I think you're better off using a HTML5 based Ionic app. This of course is bad news, but we do hope for improvement when time comes See -> http://www.remobjects.com/ . They claim to allow for writing multi-target pascal applications: "NEW: Elements 9.1, Oxygene, C# & Swift, for iOS, Android, Mac, .NET & more." (Of course not free / Open Source) -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
They claim Delphi VCL compatibility and hence it should be compatible to LCL, as well. -> http://www.elementscompiler.com/elements/whatsnew.aspx (I did not test any of their products.) -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On 05/07/17 10:30, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: They claim Delphi VCL compatibility and hence it should be compatible to LCL, as well. -> http://www.elementscompiler.com/elements/whatsnew.aspx (I did not test any of their products.) Might also be worth bering https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2017/05/kotlin-on-android-now-official/ in mind. Not Pascal, but at least was designed with Pascal in mind. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Michael Schnell via Lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > This of course is bad news, but we do hope for improvement when time > comes > > See -> http://www.remobjects.com/ . > They claim to allow for writing multi-target pascal applications: > "NEW: Elements 9.1, Oxygene, C# & Swift, for iOS, Android, Mac, .NET & > more." > > (Of course not free / Open Source) > I've read something about RemObjects but I prefer stay in FPC that is Open Source. But thanks, anyway. Best regards, Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd via Lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > Might also be worth bering https://blog.jetbrains.com/kot > lin/2017/05/kotlin-on-android-now-official/ in mind. Not Pascal, but at > least was designed with Pascal in mind. > I didn't know Kotlin compiles to iOS. They are using LLVM — but FPC has a branch for that too, right? — but "...Kotlin/Native is far from complete, so this Technology Preview has a number of limitations that will be eliminated at later stages" see https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2017/04/kotlinnative-tech-preview-kotlin-without-a-vm/ So, I believe Ionic and JavaScript is winning until now. Best regards, Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] Android & iOS
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Alfred via Lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > I you limit yourself to Android: with LAMW you can make perfect Android > apps ! > > https://github.com/jmpessoa/lazandroidmodulewizard > > http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,21919.0.html > I saw this project. Looks good... but my client needs Android and iOS so... :( Best regards, Marcos Douglas -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org http://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus
