Re: [Lazarus] Do we really need a PaintSwastika procedure?

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Now this is strange: a "FREE SOFTWARE" project discussing whether they
should or should not discuss political/historical/cultural views.

2016-01-08 13:43 GMT-03:00 Shaun O'Connor :
> I concur completely,  Just because a particular  graphic is included in the
> distribution densest oblige one to make use of it.
>
> If we all got nit picky about the meaning of various symbols we would never
> get anywhere, , I say let the matter rest and concentrate on continuing the
> good work of a fine open source project.
>
>
> On 08/01/2016 15:34, Donald Ziesig wrote:
>>
>> My two cents.
>>
>> This has gotten completely out of hand.  When an item has multiple
>> meanings (e.g., artistic, religious or offensive political history) we
>> should give it the benefit of the doubt and LEAVE IT IN.
>>
>> This is Lazarus (an international programming organization), not a
>> totalitarian regime.  As was exemplified before, should we paint a Hindu who
>> is printing a religious symbol with the same brush as a Neo-Nazi?  I say NO.
>> Most people who are technically competent enough to install and use Lazarus
>> have the ability to draw anything they want anyway.
>>
>> PLEASE, LET'S TERMINATE THIS THREAD, NOW!
>>
>> Don Ziesig
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[Lazarus] Raspberry Pi

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Thank you very much to all Freepascal and Lazarus developers. Today I
was able to compile all my applications within Raspberry Pi. I am
very happy. Many thanks to everyone for this amazing tool that you
gave to the world.


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Re: [Lazarus] [fpc-pascal] Raspberry Pi

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

 Can you build shared libraries with FPC and load it with another FPC program
 on RPi?


Hi!. I don't know, I didn't tried that. You could try it emulating
Raspberry Pi with qemu.


Gustavo



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 Thank you very much to all Freepascal and Lazarus developers. Today I
 was able to compile all my applications within Raspberry Pi. I am
 very happy. Many thanks to everyone for this amazing tool that you
 gave to the world.


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Re: [Lazarus] Developing on Linux with files on Windows NTFS

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

 Has anyone had any success in using common storage for multi-platform source
 code?  If so, how do you do it?

 Thanks,

 Don Ziesig

I use a real machine with Linux and a virtual machine with Windows. I
boot to a real Windows only when I have to test custom USB hardware. A
years ago I use a virtual machine with SVN on Linux. The virtual
machine files were hosted on a NTFS partition visible from a real
Linux with Virtualbox and a real Windows with Virtualbox. That way it
was posible to access the source code from both Linux and Windows.

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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus 1.0 Release

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Congratulations!. I am a big fan of Lazarus/FPC.


2012/8/29 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
 The Lazarus team is glad to announce the release of:

 Lazarus 1.0

 At this important stage the current team would like to thank all the past and 
 current people who were involved in getting us here.
 * Thanks also go to the FPC team for providing the compiler that makes it all 
 possible.
 * Special thanks go to the founders of the project who started Lazarus more 
 than a decade ago in 1999: Cliff Baeseman, Shane Miller and Michael A. Hess.
 * A history of developers involved can be found at 
 http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/History. And a list of the many 
 contributors comes with the distribution.

 The release is available for download at the SourceForge download page:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/

 Choose your CPU, OS, distro and then the Lazarus 1.0 directory.

 Minimum requirements:
 Windows:   98, 2k, XP, Vista, 7, 32 or 64bit
 FreeBSD/Linux: gtk 2.8 or qt4.5, 32 or 64bit
 Mac OS X:  10.4, LCL only 32bit, non LCL apps can be 64bit

 This release has been built with fpc 2.6.0 (the former release 0.9.30.4 was 
 built with that too).

 The svn tag is
 http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags/lazarus_1_0

 The list of changes:
 http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.0_release_notes

 For people who are blocked by SF, the Lazarus releases from sourceforge are 
 mirrored at:
 ftp://freepascal.dfmk.hu/pub/lazarus/releases/
 and later at (after some time for synchronization)
 http://michael-ep3.physik.uni-halle.de/Lazarus/releases/
 and
 http://mirrors.iwi.me/lazarus/


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Re: [Lazarus] Xubuntu, Lazarus and project stored and built on a pendrive with ntfs

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

hi all:
Not executing programs from external file systems is a kernel option
adopted by many linux distros, I think. You should copy the program to
the local filesystem and change permissions to execute it.


2012/3/17 Bernd Kreuss prof7...@googlemail.com:
 On 17.03.2012 23:08, Salvatore Coppola wrote:

 I'm low level user so can you take a look, is how you supposed?

 Somehow somewhere the default mount options can be changed in xubuntu. I
 assume you want it to have it mounted with exec bits set every time you
 plug it in, maybe you should consult the ubuntu forums where these
 default options for xubuntu's automounting daemon are hidden and where
 the correct place is to make these changes (its probably some gnome
 thingy running in the background and xubuntu with its minimal interface
 probably does not have an UI to configure it). The people on the ubuntu
 forums should be able to help, they know this system inside out.

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[Lazarus] TChart usage

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Hi all:

  Is there any tutorial on how to use TChart? Thanks!

Gustavo

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Re: [Lazarus] TChart usage

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2012/1/5 Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 02:19, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez
 gejime...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is there any tutorial on how to use TChart? Thanks!

 For examples, see demo folder.
 For documentation, see 
 http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/TAChart_documentation.
 There is no separate tutorial (yet?).

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Re: [Lazarus] Converting Fortran to FPC?

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Hi

2010/10/6 Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com:
 I have a question that might be OT here, but I will try nevertheless:

 We have a Windows application written in Delphi for data analysis and
 display.
 It uses GLScene as the data rendering engine and it uses 3 Fortran
 DLL:s to do the number crunching.

 I want to port the whole thing to Lazarus/FPC and I have seen that
 GLScene is available for Lazarus (see separate thread).
 So far it looks promising, but I also need to handle the three Fortran
 DLL:s.

 They were made using an Intel Fortran compiler plugged into Visual
 Studio several years back. The developer is no longer with us, but the
 sources (and the Windows compiler are).

 So my question now is if there is any experience of either porting
 Fortran code to FPC or of compiling Fortran code for a Windows DLL
 into the corresponding function in Linux?
 (By te way, is there such a thing as a DLL in Linux?)

 Any info on this greatly appreciated!


There is an Intel Fortran Compiler for Linux, 30 days evaluation for
free. You could try to recompile those DLLs. If the recompile works,
it will generate a .so file instead of a .dll, wich is a shared object
on Linux.

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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus-other list

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2010/7/2 Reimar Grabowski reimg...@web.de:
 On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:09:58 +0200
 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some
 take their hobby way to serious here, and treats the mailing lists
 like the Nazi Camps from way back.

 You should think before you write mails. This is a very serious advice.
 Comparing anything today to this time shows clearly that you absolutely do 
 not know what you are talking about.
 I had a much better opinion of you before this mail.
 I am very disappointed.


Aha, the Godwin's law: As an online discussion grows longer, the
probability of a fpGUI is better than Lazarus approaches 1.

Gustavo



 You should read this very carefully before talking about this topic again 
 (even if you just want to insult people):
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust

 This is not funny at all. And your disrespect for the more then 6 million 
 murdered people is very alarming.
 Use your brain before you write mails.

 R.
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 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 A: Top-posting.
 Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion again: remove GTK1 from IDE and LCL

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2010/6/3 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com:
 On 3 June 2010 20:39, Marc Santhoff wrote:
 No it isn't pointless. You forget about embedded computers, they are not
 growing over time and are running on small amounts of resources, e.g. a
 233 MHz Geode CPU having 64 MB of RAM. I wouldn't even dare to try GTK2
 on that little things.

 Then switch to fpGUI for embedded systems. It works perfectly and is
 low on resources and small size executables. Plus fpGUI is a lot more
 modern in looks than GTK1 - and fpGUI is still actively being
 developed.  :)


But I don't like the fpGUI's developer. he is very rude, and has a
strange behavior: he always says, in the Lazarus mailing list, how
wonderfull is his tool and how buggy is Lazarus. I don't understand
that.

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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion again: remove GTK1 from IDE and LCL

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

 Graeme Geldenhuys to whom you replied is that fpGUI's developer

 I think that was a kind of joke. At least I feel it so. Maybe in GB humor is
 a bit different?

 Best regards,
 Paul Ishenin.


Malvinas belong to Argentina  ;)

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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion again: remove GTK1 from IDE and LCL

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2010/6/3 Adem listmem...@letterboxes.org:
 On 2010-06-04 04:21, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote:

 But I don't like the fpGUI's developer. he is very rude, and has a
 strange behavior: he always says, in the Lazarus mailing list, how
 wonderfull is his tool and how buggy is Lazarus. I don't understand
 that.


 Exactly.

 And, I am also told he, the fpGUI's developer, prefers decaf with plenty of
 milk, as opposed to the rough-ground dark strong Colombian variety the real
 men among us go for.

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Seriously, I love Free Pascal/Lazarus. The few crashes are due to my
own mistakes on my own code. Maybe I'm not a very good programmer, but
I have wrote a lot of apps with Freepascal/Lazarus. Data acquisition,
mostly. Unit, form, button, xml file, tchart... Ctrl+F9, BANG, a brand
new app reading data from a 16f877 through serial port. Web, Linux,
windows, what do you want. Give me a Mac, I can do that, too.

Great quality, free as in speech, multiplatform. Lazarus is great.
Free Pascal/Freepascal is great.

Everything else is just smoke. Period.

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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus make me create better apps

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2010/5/18 Luiz Americo Pereira Camara luiz...@oi.com.br:
 Lee Jenkins escreveu:

 Personally a good IDE for me would consist of a good editor.  I've tried
 some out there like Notepad++ which is ok, but settled down to using PSPad
 on Windows.

 Did you try http://spket.com/ ?

 Luiz

Hi

I think Geany is a very good editor too (it is almost multiplatform).
As good as Notepad++. Also, you could try Notepad++ /wine on
GNU/Linux.

Gustavo

ps: We (Lazarus/Freepascal users) can say with pride that our apps are
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Re: [Lazarus] Suggestion: Remove GTK1 support from IDE and LCL.

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2010/5/15 Krisztián Nagy nkrisztia...@gmail.com:
 Does anyone use a Linux distribution that is no longer supported by it's
 maker?
 If so why?
 There was a discussion in the thread about the usage of old releases, see it
 there.
 I personally know people who use for example old ubuntu because their
 hardware is not supported (I know this normally does not happen but it still
 does in some cases) or too slow with the newer releases. I gues there can be
 more reasons.
 The point I was trying to make was that we should know who and on which
 system uses lazarus so such decisions could be made.
 I do not have that information. If there is some source from where you know
 that no one uses lazarus on releases with old gtk just show it and that
 should solve this issue. :)
 However, I agree that in general it is a viable policy to align the required
 version to the officially supported main distros (and of course take
 advantage of all of it's features). But I think at this point we do not know
 if the general case applies to lazarus or our user base is different and we
 should follow a different path (like being compatible with old systems).
 I hope it is clear now.
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Re: [Lazarus] Code refused from Andreas Hausladen? Is this true?

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2010/5/13 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com:
 Also, seems not possible to make it any better. Andreas Hausladen
 invest their valuable time to make lazarus LCL code compatible with VCL
 and the Lazarus developers refuse to accept the code, just coz them
 don't want it. An episode that make me wonder if I should work with
 lazarus any time in future, I found it an absurd.
  --  Cesar Romero  (2010-04-09)
 https://forums.embarcadero.com/thread.jspa?threadID=35581tstart=15


 Is this true?  When did Andreas supply patches?


You are asking about a comment from some guy talking about a patch
from some another guy. You are a troll.

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Re: [Lazarus] debian packages now have testing/unstable requirements

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Hi

2010/4/7 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
 On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:22:03 -0700
 David Emerson dle...@angelbase.com wrote:

 Hey y'all,

 I'm disappointed to discover that the lazarus packages at hu.freepascal.org 
 are
 now requiring libatk 1.29.3 (or greater) whereas debian stable has 1.22

 AFAIK the libatk dependency is automatically setup by the dpkg tool
 using the version of the building machine.


I think this is a bad idea. Forcing Debian users to install
Testing/Unstable is a bad idea.

Debian Stable exists for a reason, a very good reason, far beyond any
Lazarus reason to depend on Debian Testing/Unstable.

Gustavo




 What's the status on this? Is there any chance that this requirement might be
 relaxed in the future?

 I guess not, except we downgrade the debian machine.


 I tried installing lazarus-ide-qt, but the lazarus-ide package still seems to
 have a bunch of gtk requirements. Perhaps the lazarus-ide package needs to be
 cleaned up?

 I didn't check. It should not have any gtk requirements.


 Maybe I need to start using svn now, in order to avoid some of these library
 dependencies?

 Yes, it is worth a try.


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Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus Controller - AVR ?

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2010/4/6 ajv a...@vogelaar-electronics.com:
 The LazarusController is in development.
 Further information will become available in May.
 Thank you for your patience.

 Anthony Vogelaar

VERY interesting. Is it possible to send one to Argentina? How much
will it cost?

Gustavo



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Re: [Lazarus] Newcomers with Debian based systems

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2010/3/18 patspiper patspi...@yahoo.com:
 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:

 Nonetheless two problems remain:
 - the help is installed, but into the wrong directory (/usr/share/...)
 - fpc 2.2.4 is installed, too old when switching to SVN trunk later

 I hope that the Help issue is fixed soon. Research for SVN and fpc 2.4
 goes on...

 Debian packages for fpc 2.4.0 exist.

 I had to create a repository on my local drive and added it to Synaptic's
 software sources. It wasn't very easy. I learned later on that you could use
 the command dpkg -i *.deb to install packages from the current directory;
 haven't tried it though.


The command (as root)

dpkg -i *.deb

works for me. In 2009 I have had to write this command three times in
a clean Debian Lenny (maybe wrong packages dependencies order). A
month ago the command worked in the first try in a clean Ubuntu 9.10 .
Well, not exactly in the first try, I have had to install *-dev
packages as pointed out by dpkg. But the dpkg's message was very
clear.

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Re: [Lazarus] Newcomers with Debian based systems

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Hi

 As it looks to me now, I do not only see Lazarus in a downward spiral,
 instead the spiral already has reached ground zero :-(

Enough of the downward spiral.



 If somebody can point out the most promising path to follow, I can report in
 part 2 what further trouble prevented me from installing a working version
 of Lazarus that way. It's ridiculous when some tar comes with a bunch of
 packages, which cannot be installed due to dependency issues. I'd expect at
 least a README that explains the required order of installation, and/or
 refers to other resources with according explanations.


It is like the can't write to serial port thread month ago. If you
are a developer, you MUST understand your system. The next, next,
next, finish only works for windows.

Try to learn about your Ubuntu package system, then try to install a
complex DEVELOPER tool.

I am not a contributor, I am not a beta tester, I am not a translator,
I am not a GNU/Linux expert. I just do electronics with serial port
data aquisition, and Free Pascal/Lazarus is a great tool for quick
apps development. I use Debian (since Potato): never a problem
installing Lazarus (since 0.7.x). You must read and learn how your
system works. GNU/Linux, BSD, etc. are not trivial systems. You MUST
understand what are you doing.

Gustavo

ps: excuse my english.


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Re: [Lazarus] [Fwd: Re: Is Lazarus a Delphi plagiat?]

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

Hi all:

Just google linux pascal compiler. Period.

Gustavo


2010/1/29 Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com:
 IMO a good add-on to the Lazarus is invisible? thread.


 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
[snip]

 DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many
 (most?) OS projects *is* difficult to understand when looking through the
 eyes of a person not yet familiar with Lazarus or the organization of the
 web
 pages/documentation. Most OS devs have grown with the project and have never
 seen the steep hill in front of the newbie.

 Just go to the Lazarus web page (http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/) and
 look
 for installation instructions -  nothing visible...

 But there is a FAQ (assuming everyone knows what a FAQ is) - nothing about
 installation...

 But there is a Wiki (assuming everyone knows what a Wiki is) - nothing
 obviously about installation...

 But there is the Lazarus Documentation section, now we're getting somewhere
 -
 Yes! After the tutorials is a user guide and finally I have found the link
 2.1 Installation. Click...

 And I get a new page which has the link Installing Lazarus at the top -
 Now
 we're really getting close. Click...

 And I get a new page where I optimistically select the first link,
 Overview
 - Click...

 And I get a text beginning For people who simply want to install Lazarus
 and
 start using it for programming, the easiest approach is to download and
 install a recent, reasonably stable binary release (such as a Linux .rpm
 package, a Windows .exe installer, or a Mac OS X .dmg package). You can
 read the sections under Linux or Windows entitled fpc binaries or the
 first
 paragraphs in the sections on installing Lazarus in Linux or Windows; most
 of
 the remaining information can be safely ignored.

 So, safely ignoring most of the document I walk along trying to find the
 first paragraph on installation in Windows (maybe a link would have been
 good?). OK, fastest way was to go Back and find the appropriately named
 header and Click... on that.

 And I get a new page which begins The current releases of the Windows
 Lazarus binary packages install very easily, and should work
 'out-of-the-box'. , then follows a pageful of discussion (!?) about
 installing on a USB drive.

 So, we have ...simply want to install L. and start using it... and
 ...work
 out-of-the-box No links to any Getting started section, no indication
 that anything special is needed to get going.

 This complete lack of any information about what happens after installation
 makes you just start it and try it. And when *that* doesn't work out of
 the
 box, you throw it away.


 Now, for the record, I have downloaded Lazarus quite a number of times and
 started to test it, I have gotten a Hello World! program to compile and
 work in Windows, and that's about it. When I tried to port a Delphi project
 I
 drowned in incompatibilities (not Lazarus/FPC's fault, but that was what
 stopped me). When I tried to cross compile for some linux, I drowned in the
 you need version this of that and... swamp (still not Lazarus/FPC's fault
 but that was what stopped me).

 I do believe Lazarus/FPC can be used for serious programming, but the
 learning curve is much too steep for me.

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Re: [Lazarus] gdk_pixbuf

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

 yes, perhaps the FPC and/or Lazarus installer can determine the OS it is
 being installed on and it can create these links as necessary? that may
 require root access, though... some may not want to provide that...
 especially if it is an install for only one user...


I think this is not a good idea. Developers MUST take care of the
system's internals. It should not be problem for a responsible
developer (hey, it is just a devel package). On windows systems,
developers tends to ignore fundamental principles. Unix, Linux, etc.
requires some background. That is why unix-like systems are more
reliable than windows systems: unix's developers know unix, windows
developers don't know windows.

Gustavo

ps: excuse my english

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Re: [Lazarus] QT binding works!

[Gustavo Enrique Jimenez]

2009/11/14 zeljko zel...@holobit.net:
 On Saturday 14 November 2009 01:35, David Emerson wrote:
 I've done all this, but at the very beginning of the compilation, I get:

 make[2]: *** [../../units/i386-linux/qt] Error 1

 and it gives up.

 Using debian stable, kde 3.5.9/10. Tried with the packaged lazarus
 0.9.28.2-0 as well as svn

 $ /sbin/ldconfig -p | grep qt
         libqt4intf.so.5 (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so.5
         libqt4intf.so (libc6) = /usr/local/lib/libqt4intf.so
         libqtmcop.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so.1
         libqt-mt.so.3 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
         libdbus-qt-1.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libdbus-qt-1.so.1
         libavahi-qt3.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libavahi-qt3.so.1


 You don't have Qt4 libs installed. As I can see you have properly installed
 libqt4intf.so.XX but not Qt4 libs (only Qt3 is inside).
 Don't know what should be dpkg command, but under rpm distro :
 rpm -qa | grep qt shows all packages contains qt ... so try that to see what
 you have inside.

 zeljko

In my Debian/stable I have libqt4-core and libqt4-dev, not sure if
this will solve your problem.

Install with

apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-dev  (as root)

Gustavo



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