Re: [Lazarus] Google Docs for help documentation

2015-10-12 Thread Richard Mace
Sorry, no I was talking about a help file for my application itself.

Richard

On 11 October 2015 at 21:05, DougC  wrote:

>  On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:28:18 -0400 *Richard Mace
> >* wrote 
>
> Hi All,
> I was wondering what people thought about using a Google Doc as a help
> file?
>
> It looks like you can have a contents, use anchors and obviously have
> pictures.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> Are you talking about a help file for your app or for Lazarus, itself?
>
> If for Lazarus, what's the problem you are solving by suggesting this? Is
> the existing wiki so bad?
>
> It is a really bad idea to tie your documentation to a single vendor.
>
>
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Re: [Lazarus] Google Docs for help documentation

2015-10-12 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2015-10-11 20:28, Richard Mace wrote:
> I was wondering what people thought about using a Google Doc as a help file?

I'm sorry to be blunt, but that is a terrible idea.

Personally I find it very annoying if applications don't include help -
and by that I mean "Context Sensitive Help". Simply supplying a massive
web page, or PDF document is just terrible for the end-user. It's as if
the developer or company forgot about the documentation or just made it
a afterthought. This seems to be the trend unfortunately - giving no
context sensitive help. I miss the attention to detail we saw in the
90's. If you include a PDF, it tells me there should be printed
documentation to, because that is what the PDF supplements.

When I press F1 or click the Help button in a dialog, I want help
specific to that dialog or the widget that had focus.

I want very fast help loading times - you will not get that with PDF's
or even worse, with Google Docs (shared document).

I want full text searching.

I want advanced searching functions.

I want annotation support. I so often add my own notes inside help so
that the topic is more clear to me. Sometimes I even include some source
code examples - depending what the help file relates too.

I suggest using something like INF (with DocView) or CHM help. DocView
has all the features (and more) listed above. Here is a complete example
showing how to use DocView with LCL applications. You need to be logged
in to the forum to see the actual attachment with source code.


http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,27864.msg173887.html#msg173887


ps:
  I have nothing against Google Docs for generating documents like
letters, shared software specs etc. It is good in that sense, and works
really well - at least as long as the documents are not too big - in
which case it becomes really slow. eg: OpenOffice, LibreOffice and
MS-Word opens a 150 page spec in an instant, and it is fast to jump
around. With Google Docs, Office 365, Atlassian Confluence etc it is dog
slow.

Regards,
  - Graeme -

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[Lazarus] Google Docs for help documentation

2015-10-11 Thread Richard Mace
Hi All,
I was wondering what people thought about using a Google Doc as a help file?

It looks like you can have a contents, use anchors and obviously have
pictures.

Any thoughts?

Richard
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Re: [Lazarus] Google Docs for help documentation

2015-10-11 Thread DougC
  On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:28:18 -0400 Richard Mace 
richard.m...@gmail.com wrote 



Hi All,

I was wondering what people thought about using a Google Doc as a help file?



It looks like you can have a contents, use anchors and obviously have pictures.



Any thoughts?





Are you talking about a help file for your app or for Lazarus, itself?



If for Lazarus, what's the problem you are solving by suggesting this? Is the 
existing wiki so bad?



It is a really bad idea to tie your documentation to a single vendor.






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