Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: Well, thank you, guys! Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly on this :) The idea is suitable. There is demand for it; Just make sure it is optional. The suggestion of Martin Friebe to put it in packages, is still the way to go, I think. I'm sure you will get fast responses to specific questions if you decide to implement it yourself. Michael. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]
On 4-12-2012 22:47, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: > Well, thank you, guys! > > Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much > demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and > with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly > on this :) As Juha and others indicated: there is a lot of demand for this. There is also a lot of demand for keeping the current interface. Therefore, I would look into using a package to provide the interface... and especially Juha's suggestion to look into merging and improving existing packages (which probably will get you a head start into the way packages work with Lazarus) together with improving the Lazarus code to properly separate the interface part from the rest. (Yes, I know I'm posting in the wrong thread now as well; just wanted to let Felipe know his ideas are quite welcome) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: > Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much demand > for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and with the > discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly on this :) Are you referring to docking? There is demand for it! I think you answered a wrong thread now, see my reply on the original one. And no need to work secretly. Good quality code always speaks for itself. Simply put : your code will be accepted to Lazarus codebase if it is good enough. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]
I planned to extract this off topic message but Martin was faster... > On 04/12/2012 13:37, Junior wrote: > some time ago was requested to implement an option where (on Linux) the > TForm stay over the Code Editor (as in Windows). Add an option for anyone > who so desire. Even today, years have passed, and this option does not > exist. I remember there was even a bug report, maybe from you. I did not understand then what the problem really was and I still don't understand. Either the designer form or the source editor is active depending on which one you clicked last. You can press F12 to change the order, too. I remember there was some difference in Z-order with GTK2 bindings when creating a new form. So, in the worst case scenario you must press F12 _once_ after creating a new form! This is a non-issue IMO. There are ~1500 open issues in Lazarus bug tracker, most of them real bugs or feature requests. This one is just non-sense. Yet, if you create code to change the Z-order behavior, I promise to apply your patch. However, if you create yet another option to the Options dialog, I would reject it. There are so many options already that finding the useful ones is difficult. No need to pollute the dialog with non-sense options. I am planning to simplify the compiler options and improve the build mode options, when I have time for it. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]
Well, thank you, guys! Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly on this :) -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]
On 04/12/2012 13:37, Junior wrote: To change one thing in Lazarus is a torture Then I am officially a masochist. Yes the learning curve is step, especially for features like that. I had ho undergo that myself some years ago. But any project that size, takes time and effort to learn. some time ago was requested to implement an option where (on Linux) the TForm stay over the Code Editor (as in Windows). Add an option for anyone who so desire. Even today, years have passed, and this option does not exist. Again same with almost all projects. Even commercial ones. Sad but true. In this case, I guess the people who can do it, are busy with other things (bugs and features). And the above is not really something an one wants to do, because it would only be temporary. Evetually designer forms must be able to dock. And then any code for the above will be thrown away. No one wants to write code, that will be thrown away -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus