[Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-12 Thread duilio foschi
sorry for my ignorance.

How is a musical track (say a WAV file) played in a web application ?

The file is to be loaded at the server-side.

Thank you
Duilio

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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-12 Thread duilio foschi
I found the code below and it works.

However, it seems a bit primitive to me.

What if the music is 2h long ?

How can I start, stop then restart the music and control the volume as
(say) youtube does ?

Maybe I can find a commercial library ?

Thank you
Duilio







If you cannot hear the sound, your computer or browser doesn't
support the sound format.
Or, you have your speakers turned off :)




2014-02-12 21:51 GMT+01:00 duilio foschi :
> sorry for my ignorance.
>
> How is a musical track (say a WAV file) played in a web application ?
>
> The file is to be loaded at the server-side.
>
> Thank you
> Duilio

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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-12 Thread duilio foschi
gotcha!

It is easy !


  
  
Your browser does not support the video tag.

The control attribute adds video controls, like play, pause, and volume.

2014-02-12 22:33 GMT+01:00 duilio foschi :
> I found the code below and it works.
>
> However, it seems a bit primitive to me.
>
> What if the music is 2h long ?
>
> How can I start, stop then restart the music and control the volume as
> (say) youtube does ?
>
> Maybe I can find a commercial library ?
>
> Thank you
> Duilio
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> If you cannot hear the sound, your computer or browser doesn't
> support the sound format.
> Or, you have your speakers turned off :)
>
> 
> 
>
> 2014-02-12 21:51 GMT+01:00 duilio foschi :
>> sorry for my ignorance.
>>
>> How is a musical track (say a WAV file) played in a web application ?
>>
>> The file is to be loaded at the server-side.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Duilio

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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread Michael Schnell

On 02/12/2014 10:36 PM, duilio foschi wrote:



This requires the browser to support HTML5 (nowadays most do)

-Michael

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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread Andrew Brunner
Not all HTML5 browsers support multi-media.  Supported file formats 
depends on the operating system and browser.  Chrome is by far the most 
widely versatile.  FireFox did not spring for MP3 licensing. Firefox 
requires streams as ogg.  So don't expect much media support from them.




On 02/13/2014 03:09 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:

On 02/12/2014 10:36 PM, duilio foschi wrote:



This requires the browser to support HTML5 (nowadays most do)

-Michael

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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread duilio foschi
Hi Andrew,

which is a conservative way to go for a music player on the web ?

Which is method used by - say - YouTube ?

Thank you
Duilio





2014-02-13 14:37 GMT+01:00 Andrew Brunner :
> Not all HTML5 browsers support multi-media.  Supported file formats depends
> on the operating system and browser.  Chrome is by far the most widely
> versatile.  FireFox did not spring for MP3 licensing. Firefox requires
> streams as ogg.  So don't expect much media support from them.
>
>
>
>
> On 02/13/2014 03:09 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:
>>
>> On 02/12/2014 10:36 PM, duilio foschi wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> This requires the browser to support HTML5 (nowadays most do)
>>
>> -Michael
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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread Andrew Brunner
Well,  those of us who depend on browser technologies are pushing HTML5 
standards hard.  But mpeg is the standard streaming format used for 
video and audio.  Since FireFox is an open sourced initiative they feel 
that they are "selling out" to include a licensed streaming component 
for mpeg.  Their way around that is to include flash player [out of the 
box].


Having said that - at least presently - you would have to use a flash 
player wrapper as a fallback if the browser is FireFox.  As for Chrome 
you would be well off using the  tag to construct an instance.


If you know JavaScript the Aurawin VDM comes with extensive streaming 
media support via HTML5.  You can download it at 
https://aurawin.com/downloads/


Look in the /core/vdm/music/coMusic.js file.  While it is an entire app 
built around a certain framework - you can certainly view the code to 
learn how build your own player for your own web page.


Look in the /core/vdm/music/Player.js file for my "wrapper" that just 
encapsulates the browser's playback implementation.


There are politics involved with regard to streaming support.  I feel 
that "pressure" should be applied to FireFox for lack of support for 
mpeg.  HTML5 is supposed to "pave the way" to have a native solution for 
streaming - e.g. to help developers depend less on proprietary 
components like FLASH; and move into depending on the browser.


I'm sure egos are involved with regard to the lack of mpeg support. 
However, the market is clearly demanding streaming capabilities for 
mpeg.  Ogg support (and that's with Google backing) has never 
materialized as expected.  So it's time for FireFox to invest back into 
their browser and include support for mpeg audio and video. They have 
the money.  They just need to realize they are not compromising on their 
standards but embracing a great piece of technology that is mpeg.




On 02/13/2014 08:06 AM, duilio foschi wrote:

Hi Andrew,

which is a conservative way to go for a music player on the web ?

Which is method used by - say - YouTube ?

Thank you
Duilio





2014-02-13 14:37 GMT+01:00 Andrew Brunner :

Not all HTML5 browsers support multi-media.  Supported file formats depends
on the operating system and browser.  Chrome is by far the most widely
versatile.  FireFox did not spring for MP3 licensing. Firefox requires
streams as ogg.  So don't expect much media support from them.




On 02/13/2014 03:09 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:

On 02/12/2014 10:36 PM, duilio foschi wrote:



This requires the browser to support HTML5 (nowadays most do)

-Michael

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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread waldo kitty

On 2/13/2014 9:06 AM, duilio foschi wrote:

Hi Andrew,

which is a conservative way to go for a music player on the web ?

Which is method used by - say - YouTube ?


youtube was using a flash video player thing... i don't know what they are using 
now that google owns them... i've not tried to save any of their videos to local 
storage in a year or two...


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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread Kostas Michalopoulos
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote:

> There are politics involved with regard to streaming support.  I feel that
> "pressure" should be applied to FireFox for lack of support for mpeg.
>  HTML5 is supposed to "pave the way" to have a native solution for
> streaming - e.g. to help developers depend less on proprietary components
> like FLASH; and move into depending on the browser.


Firefox supports H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback but only when it is
already installed in the OS. See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318
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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread duilio foschi
http://areweplayingyet.org/

this is a nice suite of audio tests for html5 browsers :)

The last version of Mozilla Firefox (stub 27.0) does not support the
playback of MP3 in my PC running w7.

Can one install a MP3 video player into w7 or w8 so that MF will be
able to use it ?

Thank you
Duilio



2014-02-13 18:52 GMT+01:00 Kostas Michalopoulos :
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Andrew Brunner 
> wrote:
>>
>> There are politics involved with regard to streaming support.  I feel that
>> "pressure" should be applied to FireFox for lack of support for mpeg.  HTML5
>> is supposed to "pave the way" to have a native solution for streaming - e.g.
>> to help developers depend less on proprietary components like FLASH; and
>> move into depending on the browser.
>
>
> Firefox supports H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback but only when it is
> already installed in the OS. See
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318
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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-13 Thread Kostas Michalopoulos
Possibly. In my computer the above site says that MP3 is supported (only
the second and third features aren't supported).


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM, duilio foschi wrote:

> http://areweplayingyet.org/
>
> this is a nice suite of audio tests for html5 browsers :)
>
> The last version of Mozilla Firefox (stub 27.0) does not support the
> playback of MP3 in my PC running w7.
>
> Can one install a MP3 video player into w7 or w8 so that MF will be
> able to use it ?
>
> Thank you
> Duilio
>
>
>
> 2014-02-13 18:52 GMT+01:00 Kostas Michalopoulos  >:
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Andrew Brunner 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> There are politics involved with regard to streaming support.  I feel
> that
> >> "pressure" should be applied to FireFox for lack of support for mpeg.
>  HTML5
> >> is supposed to "pave the way" to have a native solution for streaming -
> e.g.
> >> to help developers depend less on proprietary components like FLASH; and
> >> move into depending on the browser.
> >
> >
> > Firefox supports H.264/AAC/MP3 video/audio playback but only when it is
> > already installed in the OS. See
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799318
> >
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Re: [Lazarus] play video and music from the web

2014-02-14 Thread Michael Schnell

On 02/13/2014 02:37 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote:
Chrome is by far the most widely versatile.  FireFox did not spring 
for MP3 licensing. Firefox requires streams as ogg.


For Videos I do on on Websites I now use HTM5 with both mp4 and ogg. 
With that most browsers are happy (but not the old IE that is the latest 
version installable on W-XP).


Before that I did Flash videos, but here the mobile  Apple devices decline.

-Michael


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