Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On 2013-09-27 17:03, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:59:04 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code Is ..\..\test\u1.pas listed in the project inspector? no, only mention u1 with name in main file. After change something in u1, even in full build u1 is not recompile. What do you mean with full build? Shift F9 I've made some test 1. When u1 is not compiled (u1.o and u1.ppu removed) everything is OK. FPC prepare units, program work . 2.After this I change u1.pas, and press Shift-F9. Source is saved, buf ppu is not changed. Program is linking with old ppu. Darek PS. Sorry for late answer, I must leave for some days. -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:35:30 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: On 2013-09-27 17:03, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:59:04 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code Is ..\..\test\u1.pas listed in the project inspector? no, only mention u1 with name in main file. Add it. Then the IDE will check the file date. After change something in u1, even in full build u1 is not recompile. What do you mean with full build? Shift F9 I've made some test 1. When u1 is not compiled (u1.o and u1.ppu removed) everything is OK. FPC prepare units, program work . 2.After this I change u1.pas, and press Shift-F9. Source is saved, buf ppu is not changed. Program is linking with old ppu. Sounds like compiler bug. Please create a bug report. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On 30/09/13 18:13, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:35:30 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: On 2013-09-27 17:03, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:59:04 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code Is ..\..\test\u1.pas listed in the project inspector? no, only mention u1 with name in main file. Add it. Then the IDE will check the file date. Does the IDE check for lfm and include files date? I tried even to include the lfm with the project but the IDE neglected that. Stephano -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On 2013-09-30 17:13, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:35:30 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: On 2013-09-27 17:03, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:59:04 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code Is ..\..\test\u1.pas listed in the project inspector? no, only mention u1 with name in main file. Add it. Then the IDE will check the file date. After change something in u1, even in full build u1 is not recompile. What do you mean with full build? Shift F9 I've made some test 1. When u1 is not compiled (u1.o and u1.ppu removed) everything is OK. FPC prepare units, program work . 2.After this I change u1.pas, and press Shift-F9. Source is saved, buf ppu is not changed. Program is linking with old ppu. Sounds like compiler bug. Please create a bug report. done: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=25119 Darek -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:26:41 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/09/13 18:13, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:35:30 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: On 2013-09-27 17:03, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:59:04 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code Is ..\..\test\u1.pas listed in the project inspector? no, only mention u1 with name in main file. Add it. Then the IDE will check the file date. Does the IDE check for lfm and include files date? lfm yes, include files must be added. I tried even to include the lfm with the project but the IDE neglected that. The compiler ignores changes to lfm. That means if you only change the lfm and not the pas, the IDE will call the compiler, but the compiler does not check resources and will not update the lfm in the exe. You have to change the pas file too. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:10:54 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Should lfm's be added to projects and packages? You don't need to add lfm files to projects. Add them to packages. You can add a feature request to let the IDE check lfm files for packages. Is it OK if include files are added by several packages and projects using these packages? Add the include file to the package and remove it from all packages/projects using that package. Each file should have only one owner at a time. I tried even to include the lfm with the project but the IDE neglected that. The compiler ignores changes to lfm. That means if you only change the lfm and not the pas, the IDE will call the compiler, but the compiler does not check resources and will not update the lfm in the exe. You have to change the pas file too. Does the compiler check include files (added and not added to the project/package)? Yes, unless a unit was compiled with -Ur. Finally, does adding defines to the project (-d) or to an include file ($DEFINE) trigger the necessary rebuild? Yes, the IDE compiles with -B. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On 30/09/13 19:53, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:10:54 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Should lfm's be added to projects and packages? You don't need to add lfm files to projects. Add them to packages. You can add a feature request to let the IDE check lfm files for packages. Done: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=25120 Is it OK if include files are added by several packages and projects using these packages? Add the include file to the package and remove it from all packages/projects using that package. Each file should have only one owner at a time. The problem is with include files that hold for example global defines and is used by several packages. Example: Package A's and B's units all include myfile.inc, and package A uses package B. But anyway, since the compiler checks include files even if they are not added to the project or package (as you mentioned below), there is no need to add them in the first place. I tried even to include the lfm with the project but the IDE neglected that. The compiler ignores changes to lfm. That means if you only change the lfm and not the pas, the IDE will call the compiler, but the compiler does not check resources and will not update the lfm in the exe. You have to change the pas file too. Does the compiler check include files (added and not added to the project/package)? Yes, unless a unit was compiled with -Ur. Finally, does adding defines to the project (-d) or to an include file ($DEFINE) trigger the necessary rebuild? Yes, the IDE compiles with -B. Thanks, Stephano -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:25:03 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/09/13 19:53, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:10:54 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Should lfm's be added to projects and packages? You don't need to add lfm files to projects. Add them to packages. You can add a feature request to let the IDE check lfm files for packages. Done: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=25120 Is it OK if include files are added by several packages and projects using these packages? Add the include file to the package and remove it from all packages/projects using that package. Each file should have only one owner at a time. The problem is with include files that hold for example global defines and is used by several packages. That's not a problem. There are at least two solutions: Solution 1: The package can extend the include path of the project. Package Editor / Options / Usage / Include Path. Use the point . for the directory where the myfile.lpk is. It works like this: You change the myfile.inc and compile the project. The myfile.inc is part of the package B, which is used by the project. The IDE detects, that myfile.inc is newer than the myfile.compiled file and compiles the package. Then the project.compiled file is older than the myfile.compiled and therefore the IDE compiles the project. Disadvantages: - This does not work if you compile with the -Ur flag. - Often such shared include files contain flags only needed by the package and only a few flags are needed by the project. So the project gets too many flags. Solution 2: Because packages can inherit flags as well, you don't need the include file in Lazarus. Just add the flags to the usage options of the package and all projects and packages using that package have the defines. See the lcl.lpk for an example. Advantages: - This does work with the -Ur flag. - Flags only used by the package are not defined for the project. [...] Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On 30/09/13 20:50, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:25:03 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is with include files that hold for example global defines and is used by several packages. That's not a problem. There are at least two solutions: Solution 1: The package can extend the include path of the project. Package Editor / Options / Usage / Include Path. Use the point . for the directory where the myfile.lpk is. It works like this: You change the myfile.inc and compile the project. The myfile.inc is part of the package B, which is used by the project. The IDE detects, that myfile.inc is newer than the myfile.compiled file and compiles the package. Then the project.compiled file is older than the myfile.compiled and therefore the IDE compiles the project. Disadvantages: - This does not work if you compile with the -Ur flag. - Often such shared include files contain flags only needed by the package and only a few flags are needed by the project. So the project gets too many flags. Solution 2: Because packages can inherit flags as well, you don't need the include file in Lazarus. Just add the flags to the usage options of the package and all projects and packages using that package have the defines. See the lcl.lpk for an example. Advantages: - This does work with the -Ur flag. - Flags only used by the package are not defined for the project. I am contemplating solution 1 because the include file is usually shared among packages, but not the project. Maybe a wiki page/paragraph for IDE myths is due. I'll list what I have in mind now. Pls correct as needed. General guidelines: - The project/package directory is implicitly added to the Other unit files (-Fu) of that project/package. - Always add the directories of added units to the project/package to the Other unit files (-Fu) of that project/package. The IDE will prompt the user in such cases. - A dot (.) can be used to add the project/package folder to the 'Include Files' or other path setting. - There is no need to add lfm files to projects/packages. - Never add a unit to several packages. - Never add a unit to a package and a project. - ToDo: sharing of folders between packages What triggers automatic recompilation of a project/package: - Modifying units added to the project/package. - Modifying include files included in units added to the project/package, provided they are located in the 'Include Files' folders (-Fi). - ToDo: Changing project options What does not trigger automatic recompilation of a project/package: - Modifying units not added to the project/package, even if they are located in the 'Other Unit Files' folders. - Modifying include files included in units added to the project/package but that are not located in the 'Include Files' folders (-Fi). - Modifying lfm files without a corresponding pas file modification. - Modifying res files. Note: Modification is a change of file timestamp. What triggers automatic reloading of files in the IDE: - Modifying units added to the project/package. - Modifying include files included in units added to the project/package, irrespective if they are located in the 'Include Files' folders (-Fi) or not - Modifying lfm files with or without a corresponding pas file modification. - Modifying the project/package main file. What does not trigger automatic reloading of files in the IDE: - Modifying units not added to the project/package, even if they are located in the 'Other Unit Files' folders. Note: Modification is a change of file timestamp (unless a special IDE option is set). Stephano -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:34:14 +0300 patspiper patspi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] General guidelines: - The project/package directory is implicitly added to the Other unit files (-Fu) of that project/package. yes - Always add the directories of added units to the project/package to the Other unit files (-Fu) of that project/package. The IDE will prompt the user in such cases. yes, with exception: If a directory is used only on one platform you can use macros and/or conditionals. - A dot (.) can be used to add the project/package folder to the 'Include Files' or other path setting. Let me rephrase this: A dot (.) in the Usage / Include Path can be used to add the package folder to depending projects/packages. - There is no need to add lfm files to projects/packages. yes, since 1.3 - Never add a unit to several packages. Yes, with exception: If you have two packages that are never used in the same project then you can do that. - Never add a unit to a package and a project. Yes. - ToDo: sharing of folders between packages A package is basically a shared directory plus information how to share it. So to share a folder between packages, you add the files to a package. What triggers automatic recompilation of a project/package: - Modifying units added to the project/package. - Modifying include files included in units added to the project/package, provided they are located in the 'Include Files' folders (-Fi). - ToDo: Changing project options Changes of project options trigger rebuilds too. What does not trigger automatic recompilation of a project/package: - Modifying units not added to the project/package, even if they are located in the 'Other Unit Files' folders. yes. - Modifying include files included in units added to the project/package but that are not located in the 'Include Files' folders (-Fi). yes - Modifying lfm files without a corresponding pas file modification. The IDE triggers the build, but the compiler does not compile the unit. - Modifying res files. Yes. Note: Modification is a change of file timestamp. What triggers automatic reloading of files in the IDE: If you mean the file changed on disk dialog: It checks the open files. For example the files of the source editor and the open lpi, lpk, lpr and lfm files. The IDE has more files open, but they are silently reloaded. - Modifying units added to the project/package. no - Modifying include files included in units added to the project/package, irrespective if they are located in the 'Include Files' folders (-Fi) or not no - Modifying lfm files with or without a corresponding pas file modification. no - Modifying the project/package main file. yes What does not trigger automatic reloading of files in the IDE: - Modifying units not added to the project/package, even if they are located in the 'Other Unit Files' folders. Note: Modification is a change of file timestamp (unless a special IDE option is set). The above dialog and the rebuild-needed-checks are independent. Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
[Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code After change something in u1, even in full build u1 is not recompile. If I added path '..\..\test\' to directory options everything is ok. Is this bug or I've miss something Darek -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
Re: [Lazarus] unit on relative path is not recompile
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:59:04 +0200 Dariusz Mazur dar...@emadar.com wrote: Hi I've noticed than lazarus (1.0.12) don't recompile units, which are include in program on relative path code program p; uses u1 in '..\..\test\u1.pas'; begin ... end; /code Is ..\..\test\u1.pas listed in the project inspector? After change something in u1, even in full build u1 is not recompile. What do you mean with full build? If I added path '..\..\test\' to directory options everything is ok. Is this bug or I've miss something Mattias -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
