Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-05 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 4-12-2012 22:47, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote:
 Well, thank you, guys!
 
 Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much
 demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and
 with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly
 on this :)

As Juha and others indicated: there is a lot of demand for this. There
is also a lot of demand for keeping the current interface.

Therefore, I would look into using a package to provide the interface...
and especially Juha's suggestion to look into merging and improving
existing packages (which probably will get you a head start into the way
packages work with Lazarus) together with improving the Lazarus code to
properly separate the interface part from the rest.

(Yes, I know I'm posting in the wrong thread now as well; just wanted to
let Felipe know his ideas are quite welcome)


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Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt



On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote:


Well, thank you, guys!

Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much demand 
for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and with the 
discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly on this :)


The idea is suitable. There is demand for it; Just make sure it is optional.
The suggestion of Martin Friebe to put it in packages, is still the way to 
go, I think.


I'm sure you will get fast responses to specific questions if you decide to
implement it yourself.

Michael.

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Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-04 Thread Felipe Ferreira da Silva

Well, thank you, guys!

Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much 
demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and 
with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly 
on this :)


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Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-04 Thread Juha Manninen
I planned to extract this off topic message but Martin was faster...

 On 04/12/2012 13:37, Junior wrote:
 some time ago was requested to implement an option where (on Linux) the
 TForm stay over the Code Editor (as in Windows). Add an option for anyone
 who so desire. Even today, years have passed, and this option does not
 exist.

I remember there was even a bug report, maybe from you. I did not
understand then what the problem really was and I still don't
understand. Either the designer form or the source editor is active
depending on which one you clicked last. You can press F12 to change
the order, too.
I remember there was some difference in Z-order with GTK2 bindings
when creating a new form.
So, in the worst case scenario you must press F12 _once_ after
creating a new form! This is a non-issue IMO. There are ~1500 open
issues in Lazarus bug tracker, most of them real bugs or feature
requests. This one is just non-sense.

Yet, if you create code to change the Z-order behavior, I promise to
apply your patch.
However, if you create yet another option to the Options dialog, I
would reject it. There are so many options already that finding the
useful ones is difficult. No need to pollute the dialog with non-sense
options.

I am planning to simplify the compiler options and improve the build
mode options, when I have time for it.

Juha

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Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-04 Thread Juha Manninen
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Felipe Ferreira da Silva
felipe_ferreira_da_si...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much demand
 for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and with the
 discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly on this :)

Are you referring to docking? There is demand for it!
I think you answered a wrong thread now, see my reply on the original one.

And no need to work secretly. Good quality code always speaks for itself.
Simply put : your code will be accepted to Lazarus codebase if it is
good enough.

Juha

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