Re: [lazarus] Lazarus packaging
Ales Katona wrote / napísal(a): 2. I think lazarus should get separated into lazarus-lcl-widgetset packages, lazarus-ide and lazarus-tools (lazbuild and friends) with a dummy all-package like lazarus and a dummy lcl package which will simply default to per-distro widgetset (eg: qt on KDE distroes in the future, gtk2 on gnome). So if use installs lazarus they get dependency lazarus-lcl which in turn installs lazarus-lcl-whatever. This needs a bit more explaining. Here's a package list for a debian distro with dependencies in [], comments in () lazarus-common (provides basic stuff, non code/.ppu/.o) lazarus-source (obvious) lazarus-lcl-gtk1 [lazarus-common] (gtk1 specific LCL units/.ppu/.o) lazarus-lcl-gtk2 [lazarus-common, lazarus-lcl-gtk1?] (gtk2 specific LCL units/.ppu/.o) lazarus-lcl-qt4 [lazarus-common] (qt4 specific LCL units/.ppu/.o) lazarus-lcl [lazarus-lcl-specific_for_distro] (dummy package for people who don't know, and higher packages) lazarus-tools [lazarus-common, lazarus-lcl] (contains lazbuil and other stuff from tools subdir) lazarus-ide-gtk1 [lazarus-common, lazarus-lcl-gtk1, lazarus-source] (the ide itself, specific for gtk1) lazarus-ide-gtk2 [lazarus-common, lazarus-lcl-gtk2, lazarus-source] (the ide itself, specific for gtk2) lazarus-ide-qt4 [lazarus-common, lazarus-lcl-qt4, lazarus-source] (the ide itself, specific for gtk1) llazarus-ide [lazarus-common, lazarus-lcl, lazarus-source] (dummy for the ide itself) I'm not sure if lazarus-common would be needed at all, or needed by code packages (perhaps just by the IDE) Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Lazarus packaging
I wanted to ask about plans to support better packaging of lazarus and apps made by lazarus on Linux distros in the future. For reference I'll use .deb style here but I'm sure .rpm will have to be quite similar. 1. Does lazarus support root/readonly locations yet? (including support for installing components) This is crucial for everything really. 2. I think lazarus should get separated into lazarus-lcl-widgetset packages, lazarus-ide and lazarus-tools (lazbuild and friends) with a dummy all-package like lazarus and a dummy lcl package which will simply default to per-distro widgetset (eg: qt on KDE distroes in the future, gtk2 on gnome). So if use installs lazarus they get dependency lazarus-lcl which in turn installs lazarus-lcl-whatever. 3. With lazarus-tools, users can easily create lazarus/fpc-made packages for whatever they made. They will simply specify the dependency for lazarus-lcl-specific for binary packages and lazarus-lcl for -src packages and use lazarus-tools (lazbuild) to automate building. 3rd party components should be of-course packagable as well. I'm not asking for someone to do it, but for input, and if it's viewed as feasible by you guys. I'm currently about to release a LaTeX IDE I made with Lazarus and am quite.. blocked in regards to proper packaging and auto-building of the thing. So.. what do you think? Of course, fpc will have to be packaged properly as well, which means addition of the missing fpc-source debian package :D I'd also propose to add the fpc package to lazarus deb repository. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus packaging
Mattias Gaertner wrote / napísal(a): On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:05:24 +0100 Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to ask about plans to support better packaging of lazarus and apps made by lazarus on Linux distros in the future. For reference I'll use .deb style here but I'm sure .rpm will have to be quite similar. 1. Does lazarus support root/readonly locations yet? (including support for installing components) This is crucial for everything really. If you mean that the package sources are installed read only: yes I mean that you install lazarus from a .deb into eg: /usr/lib/lazarus and that people can still install 3rd party components into this lazarus in some way (I realize that packaged components would conflict tho, because of the one binary problem, but that's a bit different beast) Maybe improve fppackage instead? I'm not sure if fppkg would be welcomed as build-tool/3rd party repository to enable -src package autobuilds. (actually I'm sure it wouldn't) Why missing? Because lazarus needs it for auto-completion. I'd also propose to add the fpc package to lazarus deb repository. Why? See above. Mattias Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus packaging
Vincent Snijders wrote / napísal(a): Ales Katona schreef: 2. I think lazarus should get separated into lazarus-lcl-widgetset packages, lazarus-ide and lazarus-tools (lazbuild and friends) with a dummy all-package like lazarus and a dummy lcl package which will simply default to per-distro widgetset (eg: qt on KDE distroes in the future, gtk2 on gnome). So if use installs lazarus they get dependency lazarus-lcl which in turn installs lazarus-lcl-whatever. In which package will be forms.ppu? It is needed by lazarus-lcl-gtk2 and lazarus-lcl-qt and lazarus-lcl is just a dummy package. I think you need a lazarus-lcl-common too. (You may thing about better names) Yes, lazarus-lcl-common sounds good for this purpose. (what's wrong with the names? they should be descriptive I think) I'd also propose to add the fpc package to lazarus deb repository. Isn't this the case already? I see a lot of fpc debs here. http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/dists/lazarus-stable/universe/binary-i386/Packages Didn't know this, but fpc still has the debs listed just like that in some ftp site. Perhaps we should unify this? eg: provide the repository for debianists on fpc page too. Vincent Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] I have a dream
Giuliano Colla wrote / napísal(a): Is there a way to achieve that? Are there already some hooks in .ppu or in .o which can be exploited for that purpose? I'd gladly help to develop what's required, but advice from compiler/IDE guru's could lead me to the right path (or make me forget about it :-( ). Yes there is, by stopping useless discussions and doing some bug fixing. These inconsistencies are mostly bugs, and YOU can squish them just like any other person. Giuliano Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Nokia acquires Trolltech
Qt4 cannot be closed. Development can be stopped from the Trolltech/Nokia side, but the GPL v4 which was released will remain. Moreover, the foundation has rights to continue Qt development should Trolltech be bought. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: synedit patch from ales
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a): I tested with this line (utf-8 encoded), specifically the last word: Application.Title:='Minha Aplicação'; Double clicking on the left part selects Aplica. Clicking on the accented part does nothing and clicking on o selects only o and puts the carret at the end of the line. Lazarus is compiled with build+clean and with the option -dWindowsUnicodeSupport thanks, What function does double clicking call? It might be possible I missed some. I'll test it on my spellchecker to see if it selects a whole word and if so then I'll try double-clicking. Thanks, I'll report soon.. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: synedit patch from ales
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a): I tested with this line (utf-8 encoded), specifically the last word: Application.Title:='Minha Aplicação'; Double clicking on the left part selects Aplica. Clicking on the accented part does nothing and clicking on o selects only o and puts the carret at the end of the line. Lazarus is compiled with build+clean and with the option -dWindowsUnicodeSupport thanks, I missed some function. If you use GetWordAtRowCol or GetWordBoundsAtRowCol or NextWordPos functions, you get the whole word/boundaries. Doubleclick in synedit uses SetWordBlock (in lazarus/non-lineselect case) which I didn't look at (and it seems to try some ugly utf-8 conversion which I guess didn't work) Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: synedit patch from ales
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a): I just tested the patch and it doesn't fixes selecting utf-8 words on synedit. This doesn't mean it isn't on the right direction. I don't know what is missing, as from the description I would think this should start working. What words did you test? Can you send the test sample to me? I tested on some slovak accented (eg: 2byte chars) words and it worked perfectly. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] New synedit patch
This is a revised version of my synedit patch which adds support for
doubleclick selection of utf-8 text as well as puts all the changes in
{$IFDEF SYN_LAZARUS}.
To sum it up:
1. it inverts parsing logic to use Highlighter.WordBlockChars +
TSynWhiteChars (or TSynWordBlockChars + TSynWhiteChars if there's no
highlighter), thus allowing utf-8 words to be parsed as long as the
block chars don't contain chars 127.
2. it fixes the doubleclick selection by said logic + fixing final caret
position based on true length of given line if UseUTF8 is true.
Ales
Index: components/synedit/synedittypes.pp
===
--- components/synedit/synedittypes.pp (revision 13890)
+++ components/synedit/synedittypes.pp (working copy)
@@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
const
TSynSpecialChars = ['À'..'Ö', 'Ø'..'ö', 'ø'..'ÿ'];
TSynValidStringChars = ['_', '0'..'9', 'A'..'Z', 'a'..'z'] + TSynSpecialChars;
+ TSynWhiteChars = [' ', #9];
TSynWordBreakChars = ['.', ',', ';', ':', '', , '!', '?', '[', ']', '(',
')', '{', '}', '^', '-', '=', '+', '*', '/', '\', '|'];
Index: components/synedit/synedit.pp
===
--- components/synedit/synedit.pp (revision 13890)
+++ components/synedit/synedit.pp (working copy)
@@ -6453,9 +6453,6 @@
Runner: TPoint;
TempString: string;
IdChars: TSynIdentChars;
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
- BufChars: array of PChar;
-{$ENDIF}
begin
{ Value is the position of the Carat in bytes }
Value.x := MinMax(Value.x, 1, fMaxLeftChar);
@@ -6463,53 +6460,36 @@
TempString := Lines[Value.Y - 1];
if TempString = '' then exit;
// Click on right side of text
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
- UTF8ToArrayOfUTF8Char(PChar(TempString), Length(TempString), BufChars);
- if Length(BufChars) Value.X then Value.X := Length(BufChars);
-{$ELSE}
if Length(TempString) Value.X then Value.X := Length(TempString);
-{$ENDIF}
+
Runner := Value;
- if fHighlighter nil then
+ if Assigned(fHighlighter) then
+{$IFDEF SYN_LAZARUS}
+IdChars := [#1..#255] - (fHighlighter.WordBreakChars + TSynWhiteChars)
+{$ELSE}
IdChars := fHighlighter.IdentChars
+{$ENDIF}
else
+{$IFDEF SYN_LAZARUS}
+IDchars := [#1..#255] - (TSynWordBreakChars + TSynWhiteChars);
+{$ELSE}
IDchars := [#33..#255];
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
- if not (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars) then begin
-{$ELSE}
+{$ENDIF}
if not (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars) then begin
-{$ENDIF}
// no word under cursor and next char right is not start of a word
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
-if (Runner.X 1) and (not (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars)) then begin
-{$ELSE}
if (Runner.X 1) and (not (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars)) then begin
-{$ENDIF}
// find end of word on the left side
while Runner.X 1 do begin
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
-if (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars) then break;
-{$ELSE}
if (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars) then break;
-{$ENDIF}
Dec(Runner.X);
end;
end;
// no word on the left side, so look to the right side
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
-if not (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars) then begin
-{$ELSE}
if not (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars) then begin
-{$ENDIF}
Runner := Value;
while (Runner.X fMaxLeftChar)
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
- {$IFDEF FPC} and (Runner.X length(BufChars)){$ENDIF} do begin
-if (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars) then break;
-{$ELSE}
{$IFDEF FPC} and (Runner.X length(TempString)){$ENDIF} do begin
if (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars) then break;
-{$ENDIF}
Inc(Runner.X);
end;
if Runner.X fMaxLeftChar then
@@ -6518,11 +6498,7 @@
Value := Runner;
end;
while Runner.X 0 do begin
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
-if not (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars) then break;
-{$ELSE}
if not (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars) then break;
-{$ENDIF}
Dec(Runner.X);
end;
Inc(Runner.X);
@@ -6530,24 +6506,21 @@
fBlockBegin := Runner;
Runner := Value;
while (Runner.X fMaxLeftChar)
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
- {$IFDEF FPC} and (Runner.X = length(BufChars)){$ENDIF} do begin
-if not (BufChars[Runner.X - 1]^ in IdChars) then break;
-{$ELSE}
{$IFDEF FPC} and (Runner.X = length(TempString)){$ENDIF} do begin
if not (TempString[Runner.X] in IdChars) then break;
-{$ENDIF}
Inc(Runner.X);
end;
if Runner.X fMaxLeftChar then Runner.X := fMaxLeftChar;
fBlockEnd := Runner;
// set caret to the end of selected block
CaretXY := Runner;
+ {$IFDEF SYN_LAZARUS}
+ if UseUTF8 then begin
+CaretX := CaretX - Max(0, (Length(TempString) - UTF8Length(TempString)));
+ end;
+ {$ENDIF}
InvalidateLine(Value.Y);
StatusChanged([scSelection]);
-{$IFDEF NEW_UTF8_SETWORDBLOCK}
- FreeArrayOfUTF8Char(BufChars);
Re: [lazarus] New synedit patch
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a): Thanks, applied as it's much better then the current behavior. However, it still isn't perfect. On: Caption := 'éé'; Edit1.Text := 'éé'; If you double click Caption the cursor ends up 1 char before C If you double click Text it goes between t and 1 thanks, You're right, this is a logical problem on my end. I need to know how many utf8 chars are BEFORE the current word, not on the whole line. I'll try to fix this. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New synedit patch
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a):
Thanks, applied as it's much better then the current behavior.
However, it still isn't perfect. On:
Caption := 'éé';
Edit1.Text := 'éé';
If you double click Caption the cursor ends up 1 char before C
If you double click Text it goes between t and 1
thanks,
This patch fixed the oversight :)
Ales
Index: components/synedit/synedit.pp
===
--- components/synedit/synedit.pp (revision 13892)
+++ components/synedit/synedit.pp (working copy)
@@ -6516,6 +6516,7 @@
CaretXY := Runner;
{$IFDEF SYN_LAZARUS}
if UseUTF8 then begin
+Delete(TempString, fBlockEnd.X, Length(TempString));
CaretX := CaretX - Max(0, (Length(TempString) - UTF8Length(TempString)));
end;
{$ENDIF}
Re: [lazarus] New synedit patch
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a): On Jan 27, 2008 3:48 PM, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: If you double click Text it goes between t and 1 Sorry, where is 1 in word Text :) ? It's on the word on the left of it: Edit1.Text The idea is that you click one word and the caret goes to the other word on the left. If you apply my last patch (see a few mails earlier, synedit3.patch), you'll fix this :) Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New synedit patch
zaher dirkey wrote / napísal(a): How we can test it?, i use compile from SVN i will use Arabic language in my units (strings). Is we can use it also for WinCE? On Jan 27, 2008 6:20 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so we are now reduced to zero known regressions introduced by unicode win32 Lazarus. Just thougth I could use this opportunity to encourage people to test it =) thanks, -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Zaher Dirkey Just doubleclick a word with special (non latin1) chars, and see if it's properly selected. Or try other functions like SynEdit.NextWordPos etc. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: synedit patch from ales
Mattias Gärtner wrote / napísal(a): The character sets in synedit are 'set of char', which means only 8bit. So, I guess the patch tries to fix an ANSI codepage accented chars problem, right? The fix is probably useless on other codepages including UTF-8, right? Not as such. The problem is two fold. 1. If we ignore encoding (eg: just work in ansi space), then the old style was simply plain wrong. It only allowed alpha (not num) chars, and worked on the principle of what's not alpha, isn't a word. 2. If we also consider UTF-8 encoded content, then getting words by boundaries (eg: not-allowed chars) and not by allowed-chars means that as long as given boundaries and whitespaces are 127 (which the default ones are), UTF-8 words will be parsed right, even if they contain special multibyte chars. I'm not sure if #2 applies also to some other encoding. Ales Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: synedit patch from ales
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote / napísal(a): On Jan 25, 2008 6:23 PM, Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not enougth. It already works for ascii characters today. Please test with both unicode and non-unicode IDE on strings with accented characters. ASCII doesn't have accented chars. If you mean non-utf local non-latin1 encoding then pre-patch doesn't work on those, anything out of ['A'-'z'] is considered block before my patch. With my patch, anything NOT listed in TSynWordBlockChars + TSynWhiteChars (if there's no highlighter), or Highlighter.WordBlockChars + TSynWhiteChars is considered a valid word-character (which MIGHT include some nonsense chars, but at least it doesn't block known word-chars, + it can be runtime adjusted (in a way to also support utf-8), unlike the current situation (where you simply cannot support utf-8 because allowed chars is a set of 8bit char). I am also working on that and it ain't that easy, I can tell for sure. My solution isn't final, but you'd have to rewrite much more to get a full utf-8 synedit. As I said, I'm not trying to do that. You mean like that: http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/trunk/lcl/lclproc.pas?root=lazarusr1=13868r2=13867pathrev=13868 ? No, that's no efficient. We'll need stuff on the fly eg, things which will report boundaries etc. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Testing
I just re-subscribed with the proper e-mail, so I'm testing this... Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] avoiding multi-instance detection
/var/run with pids is also present in FreeBSD 5.x+ But it's just a dumpspace for these things.. It still doesn't add anything useful :) I think there's some syscall to do what ps does basicly. Might be worth looking at, that way you won't depend on external crap. Ales At least FreeBSD 4 has a pid-file in /var/run: $ ls /var/run/ cron.pidemacs ld.so.hints ppp sshd.pid dev.db inetd.pid log printer syslog.pid dhcpd isdnd.pid mountd.pid run utmp dmesg.boot ld-elf.so.hints moused.pid sendmail.pid $ cat /var/run/cron.pid 122 $ ps aux|grep cron root 122 0,0 0,1 1056 768 ?? Ss 12:14am 0:00,00 /usr/sbin/cron Don't know about os version 5 or 6 or 7 though ... HTH, Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] avoiding multi-instance detection
FreeBSD might or might not have /proc mounted. Default is no however, so you can't be sure. However you can still save the pid # of the process in some file, then when starting a new one, read this number, check output of ps (or use syscalls if applicable) for given number and if pos finds the name of your app then it's running. Otherwise start and override the file. This way even if you crash and then another process takes your old pid you still can see if it's your app or not. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
On st , 2006-05-17 at 08:48 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I one of the ones who think that a new name is MUST, Lazarus seems fine for a project name, but I share the idea that taking the project to corporate world, will require a new name. And what makes you think Lazarus aims for corporate world? Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !
Lazarus might not be the best of names but neither is Delphi and especialy not Gambas (which sounds extremely moronic). Delphi is a stupid name too, it's just marketing which got it to the position it has. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation
Florian Klaempfl wrote: And more importantly, where will this lead us in the future? It keeps the fun for the current developers so they will continue to work on fpc. As soon as you get money for something, you've pressure, deadlines etc. and the fun will be lost. Well said. Couldn't have said it better. The thing is FPC OSS. It's more than your typical OSS which in most cases has monetary influence. FPC works 100% free, works well and people actually like what they do. Add money and all is lost. It's going along slowly but it's going... Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation
To speed up development significantly you need at least 1 Mio Eur and this is unlikely to raise. It would speed up development but ruin everything else in the end IMHO. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus/FPC Foundation
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: But you can reinvest the donations into Free Pascal. + You can buy hardware with donations. How can a port to some strange hardware be made without that hardware? Not required in most cases, there are already farms for OSS provided for free. If it's not in one, the guy who wants it has some such machine. + The Bounties aren't necessarely outside people paying developers to do things. If we had donations you could use them to fund further development by people outside the main core group. You could say for example: $1000 for whoever port Free Pascal to Palm The result of this is questionable at best, there are many hidden dangers. + You can use the money to travel to open source forums and make lectures about Free Pascal / Lazarus Time is not money in this regard. Time cannot be given. And AFAIK the devs don't have the time. As a Lazarus / Free Pascal fan I would like it to be as good as it can. And I think that if we could find a way to receive donations and reinvest them into the software it would be even better =) Also, do we really need a foundation to receive donations? No. IMHO But we only need one person to loose time creating the foundation Which has to be trusted, thus a dev who has no time.. and we are at the beginning again. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [Lazarus 0001939]: Add don't ask again to certain warning messages.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following issue requires your FEEDBACK. == http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=1939 == Reported By:Almindor Assigned To: == Project:Lazarus Issue ID: 1939 Category: IDE Reproducibility:always Severity: feature Priority: normal Status: feedback Fixed in Revision: Target: post 1.0 Widgetset: GTK == Date Submitted: 03-26-2006 09:35 EST Last Modified: 03-26-2006 12:27 EST == Summary:Add don't ask again to certain warning messages. Description: Promiment amongs these is the Your font doesn't support UTF8 which is very bothersome to get on each start. And no I'm not going to change my beautiful font since I don't use chars 127 == -- Matthijs - 03-26-06 12:27 -- Could you say more about certain warning messages. To me it looks like something that has to be set in options. So a well defined list of what should when be asked is needed then. Issue History Date Modified Username FieldChange == 03-26-06 09:35 Almindor New Issue 03-26-06 09:35 Almindor Widgetset = GTK 03-26-06 12:27 Matthijs Target= post 1.0 03-26-06 12:27 Matthijs Note Added: 0002540 03-26-06 12:27 Matthijs Status new = feedback == 2 come to mind right know, I think this should be an open bug (perhaps not the bugrep itself tho) so that people can always come and say hey and this one should have it too) In short, all messages which can be periodic/loopy/on-each-start should have it. Mine are: 1. the font not supports xxx message 2. compiler sources not found message Ales P.S: this is second send, my 1st one didn't seem to get through (probably my fault) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Thread Behavior in Lazarus
You cannot expect some magical stuff to be put into some invisible event loop with console apps. With GUI apps you don't control/design the event loop, you hook into it. This means LCL can CheckSynchronize() for you. There's simply NO way FPC could magicly do this for you, it would have to read your mind. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Thread Behavior in Lazarus
Why would the behaviour change from running from the IDE to executing from the command line? If you use synchronize, the IDE calls CheckSynchronize for you. In command line you need to do this in main thread. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Polymorphism question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to declare a polymorph class. The class has several
properties and it's the read and write specifiers that I want to be
virtual abstract. So derived classes override the read and write
specifiers. The problem however is that I get an EAbstractError. The
property is still considered to be abstract according to the compiler. So
what did I wrong? I have added an example below.
Is it perhaps not allowed to use this construct? What would then be the
best way?
Darius
example
unit MyTest;
{$mode objfpc}{$H+}
interface
uses
Classes, ComCtrls, SysUtils;
type
TCustomClass = class
private
//virtual mehods
function GetMyProperty: string; virtual; abstract;
procedure SetMyProperty(Value: string); virtual; abstract;
published
property MyProperty: string Read GetMyProperty Write SetMyProperty;
end;
TMyClass = class(TCustomClass)
private
FMyProperty: string;
function GetMyProperty: string; overload;
procedure SetMyProperty(Value: string); overload;
published
property MyProperty;
end;
implementation
function TMyClass .GetMyProperty: string;
begin
Result := FMyProperty;
end;
procedure TMyClass .SetMyProperty(Value: string);
begin
if Value = FMyProperty then
exit;
FMyProperty := Value;
end;
end.
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Change overload to override.
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[lazarus] Webpage outdated
The webpage has been outdated for ages now. Could someone wake Michael to update atleast the Downloads link to point to SF? Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Debugger causing problem in Windows
George Lober wrote: George Lober wrote: Since I mostly do my main Lazarus stuff under Linux, I have just now come to the conclusion that under Windows (win98se), with gdb (6.2.1) enabled, clicking on run or F9 causes the code to get compiled, but it doesn't run. If I disable gdb (no debugger at all) everything is fine, the program compiles and runs. I was aware people had problems with debugging on windows, but going back a few months I don't recall programs not running at all. This is with svn Lazarus from about three weeks ago as well as with yesterdays svn #8612. Checking at: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/ , I see that the latest version is 6.4, but by the looks of it is available only for Linux. Does anybody know where one could the 6.4 version for Windows ? I really don't want to bother with the whole thing of installing Cygwin or MinGW on my Windows just to get a debugger. Maybe somebody with Cygwin or MinGW installed could port gdb, and post it somewhere for Lazarus users. Would 6.4 or something higher then 6.2.1 even help ? Should I enter this as a bug ? Does anyone have any suggestions ? (and no, I don't want to feed Gates even more money for XP, I think he's got enough) Bugrep. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Gdk2x11 patch
This patch fixes compilation of gdk2x11 package. Apply from dir with gdk2x11.pas For author: never ever use libc. Use Unix, BaseUnix units. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] How do I add additional units to uses from package?
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:19:36 +0100 Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm making a package (with visual components) which needs to add additional unit to uses clause of project which uses it. How do I do that? If it's impossible alot of code duplication and useless delegation would be required. Do you mean, when putting a component on a form, instead of adding one unit to the uses clause of the form, the IDE should add several units? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Yes, this would be very useful since sometimes you're redelegating alot of stuff like callbacks and base types from hidden units which under normal use are directly used. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re-add Qt on the widgetset list
AFAIK that's correct. Your qt applications will be gpl. This AFAIK depends on your QT license. As you may know you can either have QT under GPL license and be forced into GPL OR you can buy QT in which case you can do also commercial apps with it. It propagates. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] PR advancement
I think the simplest and perhaps most important change to get better PR for both Lazarus and FPC is the web page. It needs to be more wow style. News have to be a bit propagandistic. A FAQ is IMHO required with first questions like: 1. Is Free Pascal/Lazarus really free? 2. Can I use Free Pascal/Lazarus for commercial development? 3. Are there any real world applications made with Free Pascal/Lazarus? 4. Why should I use Free Pascal/Lazarus? 5. Isn't Free Software equal to crappy software? etc. In other words, FAQ for managers. I'm not saying you should scrap the old one. Just put the technical questions a bit lower. I can write a few FAQ entries in plain text but I can't make a dynamic webpage(perhaps CGI? :) ) Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Problem with Threads
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: Bogusław Brandys wrote: Working without problems with lazarus 0.9.11 revision 8188 and FPC 2.0.3 from 2005-11-17 Great to hear that! I was already recreating the thread code with Win API and almost recreating the GUI on Delphi 7 ... By the way : Why you are using suspend inside thread ? The program is an osciloscope and it needs to capture 300 measures from the hardware, show them on screen and then repeat the process about 0,5 second latter. The measurement is on the secondary thread. So, I need to remeasure every 0,5 seconds and I could not find a way to restart the thread. Creating, terminating and recreating a TThread object every 0,5 seconds seamed to me like an awful overhead, and any possible memory leaks in the process would quickly flood the system. Then I decided to create a loop. The thread executes what it needs and then suspends itself. The main program will Resume the thread when it needs new measurements. The thread code is something like this: while (not Terminated) do begin // Here measure 300 times the voltage on the hardware SuspendThread(vMedidor); end; Felipe _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives There has been fixed in fpc with threads. Use 2.0.2 Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] .pp .pas files
There's some explanation in FPC docs. IIRC pp stands for pascal plus and is the old extension of FPC programs. I think it's more of a preference over rule since if you look at sources of lazarus or fpc itself you'll noticed different names for different thing. I think one rule is that if you use fpc or objfpc mode you should name it .pp while delphi/tp mode should be .pas. I don't follow this rule tho. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: lNet components package
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: Ales Katona wrote: I'm happy to announce first alpha version of lNet components package for Lazarus. It adds two components to Lazarus, TLTcpComponent and TLUdpComponent. More info can be found at http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/LNet Please keep in mind it's alpha. Altho the underlying framework is stable, the threads and components are new. I think you need to check the Required Packages section of the package. At least LCL and FCL should be there. I recently tryed to compile a component from the CCR and it didn't compile because there wasn't LCL on it's requires section. Felipe _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives FCL is used by both packages. LCL is used only by the ide package as it's not required by the base components. BTW FCL isn't required either but there's a bug in packaging not permiting to remove it. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] LNet Package ERROR
Kleiton Luiz wrote:
Hi, i'm try to install lnetpackage-0.1.zip in lazarus for linux,
but i dont can compile, on press install the lazarus show me this message:
/root/Desktop/lnetpackage-0.1/lnet/tomwinsock.pas(1,1) Fatal: Can't
find unit Windows
My Free Pascal Compiler have version 2.0.0 [2005/05/09] for i386
My Lazarus is 0.9.6 beta
Anypeople can help-me ?
**
Hello. It seems {$ifdef win32} for some reason is true in your linux
FPC. I don't know why it is so but it certainly isn't standard.
It is possible that your lazarus is too old to use this package. Could
you please try to update to 0.9.10 and try again?
Ales
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Re: [lazarus] LNet Package ERROR
Tony Maro wrote: Or, the package has been site to build for win32 widgets. Check the project and package settings to make sure GTK+ / Linux are selected everywhere. -Tony The package doesn't specify OS or widgetset. It leaves default. I suspect lazarus is too old and it interprets some package info wrong way. I've used the package in windows and linux no problem. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Custom compiler options not inherited?
You are right. Sorry for the comotion. Ales I just tested: custom options are inherited. Maybe you added them to the compiler options, instead of the 'Usage' options of the package? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TWebBrowser
Shannon Fang wrote: Thanks Ales, It seems that the usage of this component is vastly different than TWebBrowser. I have 2 more questions: 1) where can I find a good document/example for using IPro? 2) Does IPro's browser uses IE as its backend, or it has its own browser? Thank you! Shannon From: Ales Katona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: lazarus@miraclec.com To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] TWebBrowser Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:51:29 +0200 Shannon Fang wrote: Hi there, Does Lazarus support TWebBrowser (on windows)? If not, is it because FPC has no such capability? Thanks a lot. Shannon _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Try TruboPower_IPro located in lazarus/components (install via components). Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives It uses it's own browser, hence it works on all platforms. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TWebBrowser
Shannon Fang wrote: Hi there, Does Lazarus support TWebBrowser (on windows)? If not, is it because FPC has no such capability? Thanks a lot. Shannon _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Try TruboPower_IPro located in lazarus/components (install via components). Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Impossible to paste into source editor
Perhaps I can help a bit here. I have a similar problem in linux. Pasting FROM lazarus works always. Pastring TO lazarus works only for certain apps. I can paste FROM Firefox TO Lazarus for example but not FROM Kate or Kwrite TO Lazarus. I tried both ctrl+c and ctrl + insert and middle-button combinations. Ales I don't have this problem. I can paste from Textpad or Firefox to the source editor. What exactly are you doing? Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Re: Using translations in projects
The GetText unit in FCL is released under modified LGPL with static linking exception. It is a complete reimplementation of GetText and doesn't link to the C libs. You can therefor use it pretty much for anything without providing source. Ales I may be wrong, but I checked the gettext package and it is GPL, so even the gettext library, one of the most used to use po files can only be linked by GPL programs. Felipe _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Patch to fix gtk2 compilation
Trying to compile with LCL_PLATFORM=gtk2 it fails on gtkobject.inc
file in lcl/interfaces/gtk.
This patch fixes it altho I don't know if it was a bug or something
intentional (perhaps something changed in minor versions of gtk2?)
Ales
Index: lcl/interfaces/gtk/gtkobject.inc
===
--- lcl/interfaces/gtk/gtkobject.inc(revision 7655)
+++ lcl/interfaces/gtk/gtkobject.inc(working copy)
@@ -5951,10 +5951,10 @@
gdk_gc_set_line_attributes(GC,GDIPenWidth,GDK_LINE_ON_OFF_DASH,GDK_CAP_NOT_LAST,GDK_JOIN_MITER);
case GDIPenStyle of
{$IfDef GTK2}
-PS_DASH: SetDashes([#4,#4]);
-PS_DOT:SetDashes([#2,#2]);
-PS_DASHDOT:SetDashes([#4,#2,#2,#2]);
-PS_DASHDOTDOT: SetDashes([#4,#2,#2,#2,#2,#2]);
+PS_DASH: SetDashes([4,4]);
+PS_DOT:SetDashes([2,2]);
+PS_DASHDOT:SetDashes([4,2,2,2]);
+PS_DASHDOTDOT: SetDashes([4,2,2,2,2,2]);
{$Else}
PS_DASH: SetDashes([4,4]);
PS_DOT:SetDashes([2,2]);
Re: [lazarus] EXE packer for Linux
Tony Maro wrote: Being frustrated with the results of UPX in Linux (can't access param(0) if it's packed) I did some hunting and found: http://exepak.sourceforge.net/ For the TruckBites installer, I wrote my own installation utility that tags all the individual files into the main exe, and auto-extracts them at runtime, so nothing need's tar'd. Unfortunately with UPX, it couldn't locate itself when it ran so that it could extract everything. With exepak, it works like a charm and compressed it down from 4 MB to 2.7 MB. -Tony Maro _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Thanks! Great find. I have the same problem with UPX. Btw how is your installer going? Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Why Lazarus and not Python or Ruby
Razvan Adrian Bogdan wrote: On 8/25/05, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes PSP is being worked on and very powerful. The way I see it is some people will not like that they have to compile on a Linux machine. i.e. for PSP, if you run MS windows, you still have to compile your PSP apps on a linux machine. Sure, advanced users can handle this.. but think about windows users :( I assume most Delphi users will be Windows users, so I'm sure PSP will be tough for them. What I have worked out for PSP so far, is people can use CoLinux, or cross-compiling.. or they can have a linux PC in their office and compile on there. But all this is great work, and I think this is why people love PHP (I'm just trying to be honest here and admit the reality). So in summary, of course I like PSP and will be continuing development with our friend Trustmaster.. And hopefully cross compiling PSP apps are not so bad as I have estimated them to be. I just thought this scripting was an interesting thing to look into also. There is also something called Nemesis Pascal too. Do you think it would be possible for a Pascal Script to have the same power (FPC has tons of units) as the compiled thing, the speed would be slower but the user won't need a recompile, i was thinking a mix of the 2 would be the best choice, something like do the skeleton for real and script other things. What do you think ? Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Best IMHO would be an embedded pascal script with the power to use binary classes. I'm not sure if that's even possible but this would make building customizable things from within FPC easy as snap. For example I'm currently adding usable objects to my game and editor and having such pascal script would allow me to make them extremely powerful to the editor without him recompiling anything. Ales _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Eclipse lazarus and marketing
Please don't take it personaly but I think you people should stop talking and start working. Make that roadmap yourself, post it on the mailing list, don't talk about it. Ales OK, nice to see that these initiatives are supported by the core team. But the problem I have is that these items should however be coordinated in some way. This is to prevent using all resources in the wrong way. There's no use in everybody starting to work on a new website, or mailing the Torry club at the same time. Besides that, I think there should be some consensus on how to proceed before acting upon the urge. As was previously proposed, we could use for instance use the lazarus ccr general mailinglist to discuss marketing and look and feel stuff, but this is not enough. I feel that a group of lets say three to five should commit themselves to the task and start to make a roadmap on how to promote lazarus to the community. The roadmap should be a result of all ideas that live within the lazarus community currently. Tasks could then very well be assigned (as a bug is assigned) to people that perform the task and report back. The advantage is that items can be prioritised and monitored. Of all the items that have been mentioned in this thread I think that the main point is; that besides functional imrovements to lazarus the increase of potential users should be considered functional as well. Darius _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Marketing efforts.
I've been following the SP war since it started and learned a few facts which are wrongly understood. FYI software patents in europe are NOT abolished, but nether are they enforced today. The big victory we won not so long ago was basicly just a defencive victory, they didn't get forward in pushing software patents. What I'm trying to say is that it depends on your country if software patents are or are not enforcable by law. I know for example that in my country they aren't, they are luckily more or less abolished(since software is considered art in here more or less). I'm writing it as a warning so you don't get an ugly surprise. Luckily, in Europe (where the FPC team lives) software patents do not exist... Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
