Re: [Fwd: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros]

2006-04-27 Thread Vincent Snijders

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Asunto: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros
De: Flávio Etrusco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha:  Mie, 26 de Abril de 2006, 4:35 pm
Para:   lazarus@miraclec.com
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Hi



I guess the discussion is more about letting someone who the main
developers trust to work on such thing, not about programmers/hackers
doing annoying-irritative-pita burocratic work ;-)



Its, more like that, check my last answer to Michael, one of Lazarus
founders.



Neither do I.



Again, my mistake, forums are updated, but many developers doesn't
participate on them :-(



What do you mean by 'developers'? If you are talking about Lazarus 
developers, then I think this is not accurate either:
Take a look at 
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2file=memberlist

and sort by number of post descending.
Number 1 and 2 are Lazarus developers. So are number 9 and 10. Only 
Mattias isn't that active on the forums, but IMO he more than makes up 
with his activity in the Mailing list.


Vincent

Vincent.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros]

2006-04-27 Thread Micha Nelissen
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:10:40 -0500 (CDT)
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 Again, my mistake, forums are updated, but many developers doesn't
 participate on them :-(

This means we need more people who do not necessarily need to write code
(patches) or documentation, but do have knowledge about all kinds of lazarus
features (by using it themselves regularly for example), and can help users
with their problems.

Micha

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros]

2006-04-27 Thread lazarus . mramirez
 This means we need more people who do not necessarily need to write code
 (patches) or documentation, but do have knowledge about all kinds of
 lazarus
 features (by using it themselves regularly for example), and can help
 users with their problems.

 Micha

Hi.

By developers, I don't mean developers that update Lazarus IDE,
or Lazarus Control Library (LCL),
but, developers that use Lazarus for their own programs.

I think wiki and mailing list should be aimed more to
Lazarus and LCL developers (that modify Lazarus),
altought Lazarus users (developers that use Lazarus)
are welcome.

I also think that forums should be aimed to
Lazarus users (developers that use Lazarus) to help themselves,
and again, Lazarus and LCL developers (that modify Lazarus) are welcome.

Borland's Delphi documentation mentions Delphi developers,
which are VCL users (use controls but doesn't develop them)
and VCL developers (develop controls), as well.

Just my 2 cents.

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Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Foundation pros]

2006-04-27 Thread Vincent Snijders

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This means we need more people who do not necessarily need to write code
(patches) or documentation, but do have knowledge about all kinds of
lazarus
features (by using it themselves regularly for example), and can help
users with their problems.

Micha



Hi.

By developers, I don't mean developers that update Lazarus IDE,
or Lazarus Control Library (LCL),
but, developers that use Lazarus for their own programs.


OK.



I think wiki and mailing list should be aimed more to
Lazarus and LCL developers (that modify Lazarus),
altought Lazarus users (developers that use Lazarus)
are welcome.

I also think that forums should be aimed to
Lazarus users (developers that use Lazarus) to help themselves,
and again, Lazarus and LCL developers (that modify Lazarus) are welcome.


Sure, such people use the forums too. But you seem to think creating a 
Lazarus Foundation would help to make the forums more used by Lazarus 
users. Can you explain that relation?




Borland's Delphi documentation mentions Delphi developers,
which are VCL users (use controls but doesn't develop them)
and VCL developers (develop controls), as well.


IMHO it is strange to call the Delphi developers, they are developers 
that use Lazarus.


Vincent.

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