Re: [lazarus] Question: Multiprocessor Systems
On 3/2/07, tanila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make experiences with multithreadded application and how to get benefits with more than one cpu. All you should need to do is create multiple threads in your system and the OS and CPU(s) will handle the rest. No need to do something special in you application. Another question: Are this magic doual/quad-core cups real multiprocessor-systems like a mainboard with two or more processors ? Yes they are like the old style mainboards with two or more physical processors on the motherboard. HyperThreading on the other hand is a Intel sales gimic which fakes a second processor (software processor). -- Graeme Geldenhuys There's no place like S34° 03.168' E018° 49.342' _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Question: Multiprocessor Systems
Great thanks. Sorry for this many tipos... I didn´t sleep enough this night, I think. tanila Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 11:20 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 3/2/07, tanila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make experiences with multithreadded application and how to get benefits with more than one cpu. All you should need to do is create multiple threads in your system and the OS and CPU(s) will handle the rest. No need to do something special in you application. Another question: Are this magic doual/quad-core cups real multiprocessor-systems like a mainboard with two or more processors ? Yes they are like the old style mainboards with two or more physical processors on the motherboard. HyperThreading on the other hand is a Intel sales gimic which fakes a second processor (software processor). _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Question: Multiprocessor Systems
The easiest way under Linux to get some information about the processors is to read the file /proc/cpuinfo. For each also virtual processor you find a entry. Here the output of my system(Dual xenon4 with hyperthreading). processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2799.603 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 5606.67 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2799.603 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 3 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 5598.98 processor : 2 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2799.603 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 5598.77 processor : 3 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2799.603 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 3 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 5598.85 Am Freitag, 2. März 2007 11:18 schrieb tanila: I would like to know how many processors are on the system, because i would like to use them paralell for a single task. The job could be done using 2, 4, etc threads simultaniously, to speed it up with usage of all processors at the same time. To split up the task I have to know how many cpus are available for usage. Is there a way to figure this out ? greetings tanila Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 11:20 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 3/2/07, tanila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make experiences with multithreadded application and how to get benefits with more than one cpu. All you should need to do is create multiple threads in your system and the OS and CPU(s) will handle the rest. No need to do something special in you application. Another question: Are this magic doual/quad-core cups real multiprocessor-systems like a mainboard with two or more processors ? Yes they are like the old style mainboards with two or more physical processors on the motherboard. HyperThreading on the other hand is a Intel sales gimic which fakes a second processor (software processor). _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best Regards/Gruss Siggi pgp9ue42CYah4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [lazarus] Question: Multiprocessor Systems
I don't know if there is any possibility to define the CPU, on which a special thread should run on. Is there any? Because usually, this is something your OS should handle because it knows best about all the other parallel processes. And it's perhaps not always the best solution for your application to split all your threads on perhaps the 4 CPUs of a quadcore, if there is another application which also needs lot of CPU power (I would thought, that in this case, it should be a lot faster, if your application uses 2 CPUs and the other application the other ones). But as I said, usually this is something your OS should take care about. Greetings, Albert Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 11:18 +0100 schrieb tanila: I would like to know how many processors are on the system, because i would like to use them paralell for a single task. The job could be done using 2, 4, etc threads simultaniously, to speed it up with usage of all processors at the same time. To split up the task I have to know how many cpus are available for usage. Is there a way to figure this out ? greetings tanila Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 11:20 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 3/2/07, tanila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make experiences with multithreadded application and how to get benefits with more than one cpu. All you should need to do is create multiple threads in your system and the OS and CPU(s) will handle the rest. No need to do something special in you application. Another question: Are this magic doual/quad-core cups real multiprocessor-systems like a mainboard with two or more processors ? Yes they are like the old style mainboards with two or more physical processors on the motherboard. HyperThreading on the other hand is a Intel sales gimic which fakes a second processor (software processor). _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Question: Multiprocessor Systems
Am Freitag, 2. März 2007 14:19 schrieb Albert Zeyer: I don't know if there is any possibility to define the CPU, on which a special thread should run on. Is there any? This is little bit more difficult. on windows you can set the cpu affinity mask with windowsapi calls getProcessAffinityMask() setProcessAffinityMask() getThreadAffinityMask() setThreadAffinityMask() = on linux you can set this mask with glibc calls = /* Set the CPU affinity for a task */ extern int sched_setaffinity (pid_t pid, size_t cpusetsize, const cpu_set_t *cpuset); /* Get the CPU affinity for a task */ extern int sched_getaffinity (pid_t pid, size_t cpusetsize, cpu_set_t *cpuset); = I think that this calls not covered in the fpc rtl, so the only way to use it convert the header files as described in the fpc documentation. (has anybody done this?) Because usually, this is something your OS should handle because it knows best about all the other parallel processes. And it's perhaps not always the best solution for your application to split all your threads on perhaps the 4 CPUs of a quadcore, if there is another application which also needs lot of CPU power (I would thought, that in this case, it should be a lot faster, if your application uses 2 CPUs and the other application the other ones). But as I said, usually this is something your OS should take care about. Greetings, Albert Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 11:18 +0100 schrieb tanila: I would like to know how many processors are on the system, because i would like to use them paralell for a single task. The job could be done using 2, 4, etc threads simultaniously, to speed it up with usage of all processors at the same time. To split up the task I have to know how many cpus are available for usage. Is there a way to figure this out ? greetings tanila Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 11:20 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: On 3/2/07, tanila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to make experiences with multithreadded application and how to get benefits with more than one cpu. All you should need to do is create multiple threads in your system and the OS and CPU(s) will handle the rest. No need to do something special in you application. Another question: Are this magic doual/quad-core cups real multiprocessor-systems like a mainboard with two or more processors ? Yes they are like the old style mainboards with two or more physical processors on the motherboard. HyperThreading on the other hand is a Intel sales gimic which fakes a second processor (software processor). _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best Regards/Gruss Siggi pgpZuUN4OtNle.pgp Description: PGP signature
