Re: [Ldsoss] Web page graphic

2005-10-26 Thread Justin Findlay
On 10/26/05, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know about others

What impresses me about the graphic is that it is so appropriate for a
group like this: by combining our resources in a cooperative way we
can accomplish more with a unified goal than can be done individually.
 It is also apropos since the beehive metaphor has been used before to
represent the work of building up the Kingdom of God, in this case
with software.


Justin

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Re: [Ldsoss] new members

2005-10-26 Thread Jeffrey Dunster
I joined this list last week while searching for any parallel 
developments on ward directory programs. I have been developing an 
XML-based directory & customizable membership tracking system for 
several years now and the progress was so slow, due to time constraints, 
that I wanted to see if I could enlist help, or find out if I was doing 
redundant work.


Is anyone else working on an adaptable ward directory system that can 
connect to the MLS, or at least ingest it's data export? I am not 
interested in complex, database-centric solutions, as I want to 
encourage developments in multiple outputs and all of the projects I've 
seen thus far are too closed for easy adaptation.


I am also interested in the open source movement and I'm surprised that 
I haven't heard of this forum before.


Currently, I am studying for a masters in Information Systems at BYU, 
graduating next April, and working for a language learning research lab 
on campus.


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JeffreyD
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Re: [Ldsoss] Web page graphic

2005-10-26 Thread Nathan
I thought it was odd at first glance too.  After inspecting it, I was
able to get the 'bee in front of a honey-comb' meaning, but it wasn't
obvious at first.

I don't know about others, but my thoughts went something like:

"What is that...radioactive military wasp?  Oh, bee.  What's that
thing he's on, a nuclear/biohazard symbol?  Oh, hexagon.  Bee,
hexagon.  Must be a honeycomb cell.  Classic 'deseret' beehive-related
reference, I get it.  I wonder if others do..."

No offense intended to the creator of the graphic, of course.  Others
probably had different impressions.

On 10/26/05, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, ok.  It seems I'm not accustomed to silhouettes of bugs.
>
> Shane
>
> Dan Hanks wrote:
> > Think honeybee, deseret, etc.
> >
> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> >
> >> Forgive me, but I just can't figure out what is depicted by the
> >> graphic in the top left corner of http://ldsoss.org .  Is it a wig
> >> with wings? ;-)
> >>
> >> Shane
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Re: [Ldsoss] Web page graphic

2005-10-26 Thread Shane Hathaway

Ah, ok.  It seems I'm not accustomed to silhouettes of bugs.

Shane

Dan Hanks wrote:

Think honeybee, deseret, etc.

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Shane Hathaway wrote:

Forgive me, but I just can't figure out what is depicted by the 
graphic in the top left corner of http://ldsoss.org .  Is it a wig 
with wings? ;-)


Shane

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Re: [Ldsoss] Web page graphic

2005-10-26 Thread Dan Hanks

Think honeybee, deseret, etc.

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Shane Hathaway wrote:

Forgive me, but I just can't figure out what is depicted by the graphic in 
the top left corner of http://ldsoss.org .  Is it a wig with wings? ;-)


Shane
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[Ldsoss] Web page graphic

2005-10-26 Thread Shane Hathaway
Forgive me, but I just can't figure out what is depicted by the graphic 
in the top left corner of http://ldsoss.org .  Is it a wig with wings? ;-)


Shane
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Re: [Ldsoss] new members

2005-10-26 Thread Shane Hathaway

Charles Fry wrote:

While I am in complete agreement with your aims, I also feel that any
contribution to a decent Free Software project is also of great
importance in building the kingdom. You can read some of my thoughts on
the matter at:

   http://ldsoss.org/index.php/Building_Zion

But to summarize and rephrase, Free Software such as operating systems,
web servers, programming languages, and numerous other useful
applications are already being used by the Church and its members. The
whole idea of Zion is about working together to build every aspect of
our community. Applications that serve a useful purpose are very
important in this regard.


I agree.  Working at the Church has made me realize just how much the 
Church benefits from technology.  I believe the Lord plants useful ideas 
and solutions in the mind of anyone with a righteous intent and a hard 
working attitude.  As a result, the Church doesn't have to develop 
everything itself and it saves a lot of tithing dollars. ;-)


Some benefits are surprising.  Ever since I installed MythTV, my family 
only bothers to watch quality programs, giving us more time to spend 
together.  Credit for a slightly better family goes to the MythTV 
developers!


Shane
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Re: [Ldsoss] new members

2005-10-26 Thread Charles Fry
> 
>
> I hope to be able to get more involved with other developers who
> can/will shape the future of the churches technology efforts. I have
> always spent a lot of time on a computer and at one point not too long
> ago was sincerely asking The Lord whether I should put those things
> away so I can focus more on church service and I got a rather
> surprising answer that I should continue to learn and enhance my
> skills in this field (without neglecting my first duties of course)
> because God gave them too me and he expects me to use them, indeed
> they will become useful to the church one day therefore I will be
> serving God in that respect.

While I am in complete agreement with your aims, I also feel that any
contribution to a decent Free Software project is also of great
importance in building the kingdom. You can read some of my thoughts on
the matter at:

   http://ldsoss.org/index.php/Building_Zion

But to summarize and rephrase, Free Software such as operating systems,
web servers, programming languages, and numerous other useful
applications are already being used by the Church and its members. The
whole idea of Zion is about working together to build every aspect of
our community. Applications that serve a useful purpose are very
important in this regard.

In saying this I don't mean to demean any of the projects that are more
directly related to the Church or its goals; I simply mean to point out
that our vision should be wider than such a specific class of programs.

Charles

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Re: [Ldsoss] new members

2005-10-26 Thread Charles Fry
> You and others on the list may be interested to know that I just  
> began working at the More Good Foundation, a brand new non-profit  
> group that will do search engine optimization and internet marketing  
> for LDS websites.  We are out to find and promote faithful, positive  
> LDS web sites, big or small. 
> 
> Our overall goal is to improve the Church's image on the web,  
> especially for non-members.  We're not quite set up (we just moved  
> into our office Monday) but please feel free to email me  
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if this sounds like something you'd  
> like to help with.  Again, this could mean as little as 30 minutes a  
> week -- we'd like as many volunteers as are willing to help.  And if  
> you have any opinions or comments, I'd be interested in those too.

Others milage may vary in this, but I have found that one key component
of getting a high Google PageRank with my websites is getting them
listed in the Open Directory Project [1]. In fact, I found this to be so
critical that I eventually applied to become an editor, and for similar
reasons to those that you describe above, I ultimately became
responsible for the LDS category.

 1. http://dmoz.org/

The problem is, there are far too many sites and categories for me to
keep up with, so there is a constant back-log of new sites to review.
Perhaps someone from your organization (or anyone on the list, for that
matter) would be interested in joining the ODP, and helping me list good
LDS sites, which will increase their global net visibility.

Charles

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Re: [Ldsoss] new members

2005-10-26 Thread Dan Hanks

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Richard K. Miller wrote:

On a similar note, I have been thinking how nice it would be to have a 
tagging system like del.icio.us for rating website content -- from "true, 
accurate, uplifting" to "disingenuous, misleading, pornographic."  And one 
might build a Firefox extension/toolbar that would check the rating before 
showing the website (if it's available) and not display sites below the 
user's desired threshold.  If I happen to find a pornographic or obscene 
site, I can tag it and save everyone else the trouble of ever finding it.


Just came across this today that might fit the bill for something like 
this:


http://mashable.com/2005/10/26/outfoxed-an-experiment-in-social-search/

-- Dan
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