Re: [Ldsoss] I don't know if this has a software solution or not...
Yes, I've heard about these systems. Quite clever. However, from a practical sense - the HG is the confirmer of truth. Mathematics is merely a language that describes natural processes with both precision and accuracy. They are both handy tools, but I fail to see where such an effort to analyze articles on JS will yield anything of real value and move the mission statement of the Church along in a meaningful way. As one of my prof's (Fred Gruenberg - RAND fellow) used to say about technology: "Just because we can, does not mean we should..." ...Paul Jay Askren wrote: As a computatoinal Linguist, I can speak to this. It should be possible using modern algorithms and techniques to divide the results of a search engine into articles for Joseph Smith, articles against Joseph Smith and articles neutral to Joseph Smith with reasonable accuracy. There's been a bit of research in this in the past five years. There wastwo talks I heard at a recent Computational Lingustics Conference on this topic. The systems they talked about did quite well. One I think achieved around 98% accuracy at deciding was written by a pakestani or israeli point of view. Of course, these systemsworked with a small set of articles and a small set ofdomains so applying this research to internet scope tools probably would be quite challenging. But, I could see a tool like this as a possibility in the future. Jay On 6/18/06, Paul Penrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really - unless someone has figured out how to reduce value judgments down to mathematical formula - so one can "prove" another false in a literal sense. That kind of debating nonsense is best left to people that enjoy that sort of thing, and those whose knowledge is far greater than what I've seen on this list. This list is better off focusing on solvable problems that bring order and efficiency to the Church today (or near so). Steven H. McCown wrote: I don't know if this has a software solution or not... ...however, this is something to consider ( http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,640187366,00.html). Any ideas? Steve ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 5/15/2006 ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Scout Tracking
Since you already put in a lot of time and effort you should better know where the problems are in a web based system. Outlining the problems would save anyone just starting a lot of time and false starts. . Please outline what requirements you believe a tracking program should satisfy and what features you believe are needed (perhaps level 1,2 and 3 level requirements/features). Please outline the security/protection requirements (rather than implementation methods) you found. thanks oscar On Sunday 25 June 2006 1:44 am, Robert Nickel wrote: Although this message is not in reply to a specific message, I'm going to reference many of the items spoken by folks. Having put some serious thought and energy into development of a web based troop tracking system, I have been following this thread with a great deal of interest. This has helped me to gel some of the concerns and ideas that I've had in the past together. First; if someone is to sponsor a central database, we should *not* look to the church for a scouting oriented database. We should offer our efforts to BSA. This way, the program could benefit all scouts and not be viewed exclusively as an LDS thing. Second; DTG should become part of MIS, or at the very least, be centralized through the clerks office. This way, all of the features that have been touted of the etrailtoeagle program can be realized via the church email system. Third; to alleviate the concerns that have been expressed about the volume of personal information stored in an online database, I would suggest just not allowing for the storage of that information. What is the requirement for tracking all of the things that TroopMaster tracks? Personally, I think TroopMaster suffers from massive feature creep. Things like insurance values, license numbers and parental contact information should either be tracked completely offline or on paper. Although the improved security garnered by this approach is dubious, the fact that we're trying to track progress and not all the ancillary things associated with scouting should serve as a primary focus. I think that the discussion has been healthy but that there are definitely different views of what the scope of the project is going to be. Without some definition of this scope, the discussion to date can have *very* different meanings for each person on the list. I think that Tom [0] should set down some initial criterion for the project before anyone decides to spin off yet another scout tracking system (YASTS). --Robert [0] It appears that Tom was the originator of the thread from the link that I was given. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] I don't know if this has a software solution or not...
Perhaps it is my Wikipedia background, but I see point of view sorting as highly beneficial to the work of bringing souls to Christ. When a person is yearning to learn the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, a high-quality point of view sorter is invaluable in making sure he gets the complete vista of the matter before making judgement. If I want to know and learn from the greats of days gone by including Joseph Smith, Christopher Columbus, George Washington, Lucy Mack Smith, Ghandi, Tolstoy, etc., I want to be sure that I am not getting my info from the likes of Fawn Brodie alone. But such as Brodie may have a thing or to to teach me along the way if I am humble enough. I say this without having read Brodie herself. I would give nothing but encouragement to those who work on any kind of information sorters in good faith.Love,Tom-- Tom Haws 480-201-5476There is no way to peace.Peace is the way. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
