Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
I've sent your comments to the right people. Tom On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 3:39 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew McNabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 04:54:01PM -0600, Richard K Miller wrote: You can find a beta version of the new lds.org at http:// beta.lds.org/ and a beta version of the new scripture site at http:// scriptures.rosenvall.com/ . You'll notice on the scripture beta site, for instance, that you can change the language in the top-right corner, a feature that's not yet available on scriptures.lds.org. I'm not really sure where the best place to whine is, so I guess I'll doit here. :)I like the simplified look of beta.lds.org, but there is one singleproblem that has kept me from being able to like the site itself. Thatproblem is the Dizzying Magical Popup Menu. Let me give an example:I hover over About the Churc! h and i t pops up a menu in a visuallyjarring way. I decide I want to click on "Tabernacle Choir." If I movemy mouse in a natural way, the menu disappears by the time I get there.It may even pop up some other menu along the way!As far as user interfaces go, I think this is very frustrating. If Iclick my mouse, I expect things to happen and so they don't surprise me.However, when I simply move my mouse, I don't expect big things tohappen (like pop up menus). My eyes actually get a little sore whenthis sort of thing happens.So, rather than just complain, I would like to propose a solution. Goto google.com. Right above the search bar, it has Web, Images, Video,... More. Click on "More". Notice that a simple but attractive menupops up right there. It didn't happen automatically, but it happened inresponse to your click (so you can't accidentally set it off by movingyour ! pointer to the bookmarks menu, for example). Even better, the menudoesn't disappear automatically either. It stays up until you eitherclick on the intuitive little X button OR until you click anywhere elseon the page, including the background. This is really intuitive,non-jarring, and simple.If anyone can talk to the people at beta.lds.org, can you PLEASE askthem to incorporate this style of menu on the page. Accessibility isimportant.Also, if you are a web designer anywhere else, please try to avoid thesame UI mistake. I've seen way to many websites out there where Iaccidentally do the wrong thing because a menu magically popped up righton top of something I was about to click on.-- Andrew McNabbhttp://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/PGP Fingerprint: 8A17 B57C 6879 1863 DE55 8012 AB4D 6098 8826 6868 NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 04:54:01PM -0600, Richard K Miller wrote: You can find a beta version of the new lds.org at http:// beta.lds.org/ and a beta version of the new scripture site at http:// scriptures.rosenvall.com/ . You'll notice on the scripture beta site, for instance, that you can change the language in the top-right corner, a feature that's not yet available on scriptures.lds.org. I'm not really sure where the best place to whine is, so I guess I'll do it here. :) I like the simplified look of beta.lds.org, but there is one single problem that has kept me from being able to like the site itself. That problem is the Dizzying Magical Popup Menu. Let me give an example: I hover over About the Church and it pops up a menu in a visually jarring way. I decide I want to click on Tabernacle Choir. If I move my mouse in a natural way, the menu disappears by the time I get there. It may even pop up some other menu along the way! As far as user interfaces go, I think this is very frustrating. If I click my mouse, I expect things to happen and so they don't surprise me. However, when I simply move my mouse, I don't expect big things to happen (like pop up menus). My eyes actually get a little sore when this sort of thing happens. So, rather than just complain, I would like to propose a solution. Go to google.com. Right above the search bar, it has Web, Images, Video, ... More. Click on More. Notice that a simple but attractive menu pops up right there. It didn't happen automatically, but it happened in response to your click (so you can't accidentally set it off by moving your pointer to the bookmarks menu, for example). Even better, the menu doesn't disappear automatically either. It stays up until you either click on the intuitive little X button OR until you click anywhere else on the page, including the background. This is really intuitive, non-jarring, and simple. If anyone can talk to the people at beta.lds.org, can you PLEASE ask them to incorporate this style of menu on the page. Accessibility is important. Also, if you are a web designer anywhere else, please try to avoid the same UI mistake. I've seen way to many websites out there where I accidentally do the wrong thing because a menu magically popped up right on top of something I was about to click on. -- Andrew McNabb http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/ PGP Fingerprint: 8A17 B57C 6879 1863 DE55 8012 AB4D 6098 8826 6868 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
On Oct 13, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 04:54:01PM -0600, Richard K Miller wrote: You can find a beta version of the new lds.org at http:// beta.lds.org/ and a beta version of the new scripture site at http:// scriptures.rosenvall.com/ . You'll notice on the scripture beta site, for instance, that you can change the language in the top-right corner, a feature that's not yet available on scriptures.lds.org. If anyone can talk to the people at beta.lds.org, can you PLEASE ask them to incorporate this style of menu on the page. Accessibility is important. You might want to leave a comment at www.ldswebguy.com, the blog of LDS.org's project manager. There is also a group blog at www.northtemple.com run by several graphic designers at the Church. (Both are good blogs, by the way.) ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
In any case, yours is an important insight, I think.TomOn 10/13/06, Andrew McNabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 04:44:12PM -0600, Richard K Miller wrote: You might want to leave a comment at www.ldswebguy.com, the blog of LDS.org's project manager.There is also a group blog at www.northtemple.com run by several graphic designers at the Church. (Both are good blogs, by the way.)I thought about that (for www.ldswebguy.com), but I couldn't think where to leave the comment.None of the entries seemed to be relevant.--Andrew McNabbhttp://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/PGP Fingerprint: 8A17 B57C 6879 1863 DE558012 AB4D 6098 8826 6868 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)iD8DBQFFMB7zq01gmIgmaGgRAtmLAJ9j6W893oQqyCmkX0xxgTWfYT5Z8wCgo3ddkVtE6L7BLRT9hN/04S+hvuI==8wlw-END PGP SIGNATURE- ___Ldsoss mailing listLdsoss@lists.ldsoss.orghttp://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss -- Tom Haws 480-201-5476Who is your teacher? ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
On Oct 13, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 04:44:12PM -0600, Richard K Miller wrote: You might want to leave a comment at www.ldswebguy.com, the blog of LDS.org's project manager. There is also a group blog at www.northtemple.com run by several graphic designers at the Church. (Both are good blogs, by the way.) I thought about that (for www.ldswebguy.com), but I couldn't think where to leave the comment. None of the entries seemed to be relevant. Maybe this: http://www.ldswebguy.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/ ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 05:24:23PM -0600, Richard K Miller wrote: Maybe this: http://www.ldswebguy.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/ There we go. I've just posted a comment on this link. Hopefully he looks at comments to old posts. Thanks for the pointer. -- Andrew McNabb http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/ PGP Fingerprint: 8A17 B57C 6879 1863 DE55 8012 AB4D 6098 8826 6868 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
Carl Youngblood wrote: By the way, I just checked out the Portuguese version, and you probably ought to know that the image on the main page has a translation error in it. It says, As Escrituras: Edição do Internet. Internet is a feminine noun, therefore it should read Edição da Internet or even better Edição Internet (Internet would function as an adjective in this case, which is the way it is being used in English). You'll probably want to correct this before it goes live. Just to vouch for my understanding of Portuguese, I have a BA in Portuguese from BYU and passed the American Translators Association accreditation exam for Portuguese into English. Carl I can vouch for Carl's point on the error. I don't have any degrees in Portuguese, but I do communicate with people from Portugal often, and they always use Internet with the feminine article and feminine forms of adjectives, which means that the word itself is feminine. Brice ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
Carl is right. I can also vouch for his knowledge of the language. As my junior companion he was always being complemented on his mastery of the language and pronunciation. Many people we met assumed that I had been out for a few months and he for almost two years. In fact, he had been out for about 6 months and I had been there for 18. I blame a year in the office for destroying my accent On 8/7/06, Brice Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Youngblood wrote: By the way, I just checked out the Portuguese version, and you probably ought to know that the image on the main page has a translation error in it. It says, As Escrituras: Edição do Internet. Internet is a feminine noun, therefore it should read Edição da Internet or even better Edição Internet (Internet would function as an adjective in this case, which is the way it is being used in English). You'll probably want to correct this before it goes live. Just to vouch for my understanding of Portuguese, I have a BA in Portuguese from BYU and passed the American Translators Association accreditation exam for Portuguese into English. Carl I can vouch for Carl's point on the error. I don't have any degrees in Portuguese, but I do communicate with people from Portugal often, and they always use Internet with the feminine article and feminine forms of adjectives, which means that the word itself is feminine. Brice ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
[Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
Hello, About a month or two ago someone posted that the church was doing some re-working of the lds.org and scriptures.lds.org. I noticed that one item in the new bible dictionary is missing that was there in the old website 'sanballat'. I don't know if this is just a mistake and if it is I don't know who I should notify, maybe just posting to this mailing list is good enough. I am not complaining about this item missing since I have never needed to look it up and still have no interest in learning anything about this word ;-) But I was wondering if there have been other additions or subtractions from either the bible dictionary or guide to the scriptures? Nathan Bullock ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
Re: [Ldsoss] Questions about new scriptures.lds.org
You can find a beta version of the new lds.org at http:// beta.lds.org/ and a beta version of the new scripture site at http:// scriptures.rosenvall.com/ . You'll notice on the scripture beta site, for instance, that you can change the language in the top-right corner, a feature that's not yet available on scriptures.lds.org. The product manager for LDS.org now has a blog: http:// www.ldswebguy.com/ The announcement for his blog (with his disclaimer) is here: http://blog.moregoodfoundation.org/2006/08/the-manager-of-ldsorg-now- has-a-blog/ You might be able to ask him your question, or use the feedback form on LDS.org. Richard On Aug 5, 2006, at 10:10 AM, nathan bullock wrote: Hello, About a month or two ago someone posted that the church was doing some re-working of the lds.org and scriptures.lds.org. I noticed that one item in the new bible dictionary is missing that was there in the old website 'sanballat'. I don't know if this is just a mistake and if it is I don't know who I should notify, maybe just posting to this mailing list is good enough. I am not complaining about this item missing since I have never needed to look it up and still have no interest in learning anything about this word ;-) But I was wondering if there have been other additions or subtractions from either the bible dictionary or guide to the scriptures? Nathan Bullock ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss
