Re: [Ldsoss] RE: Capture of Streamed WMV

2007-05-17 Thread Joshua Earl

As an answer to your original question of how to save streamed content, I
use a downloader once I have pulled the the MMS URL from the ASX file.
NetTransport works great for me.  I have used this method to download
streaming video files several times including Conference video files since I
live in an area where Conference is not broadcast.

-Josh


On 5/17/07, John Epeneter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


BTW, as an FYI, here is the policy:

According the Church handbook, "Video materials that are not owned by
the Church or IRI may not be used in Church settings, including
Church-sponsored activities that are held in a home, without a license
for public viewing.  Such materials include purchased or rented
videocassettes (including animated scripture videocassettes) and
recordings for television, cable or satellite programs."

So after the work, we won't be able to use the clip after all.  Better
to be obedient though.  The blessing is that I learned a lot more about
internet and video :-)

-Original Message-
From: John Epeneter
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:22 AM
To: 'ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org'
Subject: Re: Capture of Streamed WMV

Thank you all for your wise and prompt responses!  Here is what
happened:

A member of our stake who happens to work for JVC had a friend in
another state who had DVR'd the program and had received a copy.  Some
diagnostics (GSpot) to troubleshoot codec issues, and I finally had the
files.  I know many of you will laugh at me for being just a Windows guy
(although I do have a RHEL box at home): I used Windows Movie Maker was
able to bring in the entire program, found the segment I wanted, pulled
it out and I am good to go.

Thanks again!
-John-
PS. Bro. McCown makes some really good comments.  I will try to address
them below:
>The church has on numerous occasions re-stated their long-standing
>policy prohibiting members from showing external material in a church
setting -- whether or not it is copyrighted.
I was not aware of this except in the context of teaching classes.  I am
pinging someone at HQ to see if I can get the official policy.  Thanks
for the heads-up.

>You might want to ask permission of the stake leaders, first.
Done.  Thanks for double checking!

>As an aside, the PBS documentary was not that flattering...
True, but the testimony of Elder Marlin K. Jensen regarding his mission
experience taken by itself is very very powerful.  After editing out
just that part and listening to it without watching the rest of the
program, I am repeatedly moved by it.  If you have the program recorded,
you might want to watch just that part.  It is about 2/3 way through the
second part.  I think you will see why our SP is interested in showing
it to potential missionaries.

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[Ldsoss] RE: Capture of Streamed WMV

2007-05-17 Thread John Epeneter
BTW, as an FYI, here is the policy:

According the Church handbook, "Video materials that are not owned by
the Church or IRI may not be used in Church settings, including
Church-sponsored activities that are held in a home, without a license
for public viewing.  Such materials include purchased or rented
videocassettes (including animated scripture videocassettes) and
recordings for television, cable or satellite programs." 

So after the work, we won't be able to use the clip after all.  Better
to be obedient though.  The blessing is that I learned a lot more about
internet and video :-)

-Original Message-
From: John Epeneter 
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:22 AM
To: 'ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org'
Subject: Re: Capture of Streamed WMV

Thank you all for your wise and prompt responses!  Here is what
happened:

A member of our stake who happens to work for JVC had a friend in
another state who had DVR'd the program and had received a copy.  Some
diagnostics (GSpot) to troubleshoot codec issues, and I finally had the
files.  I know many of you will laugh at me for being just a Windows guy
(although I do have a RHEL box at home): I used Windows Movie Maker was
able to bring in the entire program, found the segment I wanted, pulled
it out and I am good to go.  

Thanks again!
-John-
PS. Bro. McCown makes some really good comments.  I will try to address
them below:
>The church has on numerous occasions re-stated their long-standing 
>policy prohibiting members from showing external material in a church
setting -- whether or not it is copyrighted.
I was not aware of this except in the context of teaching classes.  I am
pinging someone at HQ to see if I can get the official policy.  Thanks
for the heads-up. 

>You might want to ask permission of the stake leaders, first.  
Done.  Thanks for double checking! 

>As an aside, the PBS documentary was not that flattering...
True, but the testimony of Elder Marlin K. Jensen regarding his mission
experience taken by itself is very very powerful.  After editing out
just that part and listening to it without watching the rest of the
program, I am repeatedly moved by it.  If you have the program recorded,
you might want to watch just that part.  It is about 2/3 way through the
second part.  I think you will see why our SP is interested in showing
it to potential missionaries.  

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[Ldsoss] Re: Capture of Streamed WMV

2007-05-17 Thread John Epeneter
Thank you all for your wise and prompt responses!  Here is what
happened:

A member of our stake who happens to work for JVC had a friend in
another state who had DVR'd the program and had received a copy.  Some
diagnostics (GSpot) to troubleshoot codec issues, and I finally had the
files.  I know many of you will laugh at me for being just a Windows guy
(although I do have a RHEL box at home): I used Windows Movie Maker was
able to bring in the entire program, found the segment I wanted, pulled
it out and I am good to go.  

Thanks again!
-John-
PS. Bro. McCown makes some really good comments.  I will try to address
them below:
>The church has on numerous occasions re-stated their long-standing
policy 
>prohibiting members from showing external material in a church setting
-- whether or not it is copyrighted.  
I was not aware of this except in the context of teaching classes.  I am
pinging someone at HQ to see if I can get the official policy.  Thanks
for the heads-up. 

>You might want to ask permission of the stake leaders, first.  
Done.  Thanks for double checking! 

>As an aside, the PBS documentary was not that flattering...
True, but the testimony of Elder Marlin K. Jensen regarding his mission
experience taken by itself is very very powerful.  After editing out
just that part and listening to it without watching the rest of the
program, I am repeatedly moved by it.  If you have the program recorded,
you might want to watch just that part.  It is about 2/3 way through the
second part.  I think you will see why our SP is interested in showing
it to potential missionaries.  

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[Ldsoss] Re: Capture of Streamed WMV

2007-05-17 Thread Bill Pringle
I use Ulead to edit my mpeg files.  The version that came with my TV 
tuner card worked fine, but I eventually upgraded when they came out 
with an automatic commercial zapper.  I don't use the feature, since 
it tends to hang and takes a while, but I've gotten pretty good at 
stripping out commericals. ;^)





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Re: [Ldsoss] Re: Capture of Streamed WMV

2007-05-16 Thread Slide

On 5/16/07, Bill Pringle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







recorded automagically.  Since everything is recorded to mpeg files,
I can edit the files, including deleting commercials, and burn the
results to DVDs.  I can also watch the shows from my laptop if I
prefer.  I have a bunch of DVD-RW, which I can use just like temp VCR
tapes.  I record movies and shows my wife wants to see, and then
overwrite them with more movies.



What are you using to edit the mpeg files? I've not had much success
with editing very large mpeg files in any editor I have tried.

Thanks,

slide
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[Ldsoss] Re: Capture of Streamed WMV

2007-05-16 Thread Bill Pringle
I burned the show to DVD, and can send you a copy if you don't need 
it real soon.


I highly recommend that people get a TV tuner card for their PC and 
run Sage TV, which works (IMHO) better than TIVO.  I can schedule 
recordings quickly and easily - search by title, person, topic, 
etc.  I can also define a set of favorites and appropriate shows are 
recorded automagically.  Since everything is recorded to mpeg files, 
I can edit the files, including deleting commercials, and burn the 
results to DVDs.  I can also watch the shows from my laptop if I 
prefer.  I have a bunch of DVD-RW, which I can use just like temp VCR 
tapes.  I record movies and shows my wife wants to see, and then 
overwrite them with more movies.


For example, a couple of years ago we were going to visit the Grand 
Canyon and surrounding areas.  I added favorites for Grand Canyon, 
Zion National Park, etc. and the program found and recorded a bunch 
of shows from the travel channel and others that we could use to 
research the places we wanted to see.


The program also has a feature that I don't use, but seems to be 
similar to TIVO - you can ask it to record additional shows based on 
what you specifically request.


Of course, you need a huge hard drive, but those are getting cheaper 
and cheaper.





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