RE: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Luis.F.Correia
[snip]
 Tom,
 Thanks for the feedback. :-)
 
 The readability of the nav bar may be related to the small caps, and
 fonts you have installed. Do you have the Bitstream Vera fonts
 installed?
 
  I agree with KP that the Releases/Branches menu should return.
 
 I'll give this serious consideration. If it returns, the nav 
 bar won't.
 I've been trying to eliminate redundant information.

Mike,

I've only seen the NavBar 'after' reading KP's email saying it is
not very visible.

 
 Everyone,
 Does anyone think the nav bar is usable? Is it worth working 
 on further,
 or should I scrap it? Is it good enough to last a few months 
 waiting for
 phpWebSite 0.9.4 to be released?

IMHO, it can be scraped.

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Re: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Juan Jesus Prieto
Hi Mike,

  I use Gentoo Linux and Mozilla 1.4 (Gecko/20040206) and It looks fine (in 
konqueror 3.2.1 too).

Regards

El Dom 16 May 2004 00:11, Mike Noyes escribió:
 Everyone,
 A new preview of our website is on-line at:

 http://leaf.steinkuehler.net/

 Note: I still need to add our announcements, rss feeds, and
 developer login information.

 Feedback is appreciated.

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Re: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Mike Noyes wrote:
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:47, Tom Eastep wrote:
 I changed the font (bold, small caps, and size) and bar size (padding)
 in this release. I gather the improvements weren't enough to make the
 nav bar stand out for you.
Given that it is both dark and tiny, it does not stand out at all. Under 
Firefox on my 19 monitor, Bering uClibc is only about 2/3 wide and 
is almost unreadable. Lince *is* unreadable.
Tom,
Thanks for the feedback. :-)
The readability of the nav bar may be related to the small caps, and
fonts you have installed. Do you have the Bitstream Vera fonts
installed?
The larger size is readable for me (Mozilla 1.6 on 'doze), but the 
darker colors make the nav-bar seem 'disconnected' from the actual 
website, especially on the pages that still have the smaller text.

I agree with KP that the Releases/Branches menu should return.
I'll give this serious consideration. If it returns, the nav bar won't.
I've been trying to eliminate redundant information.
Everyone,
Does anyone think the nav bar is usable? Is it worth working on further,
or should I scrap it? Is it good enough to last a few months waiting for
phpWebSite 0.9.4 to be released?
Note: this theme is only temporary. We'll have a theme contest
as soon as phpWebSite 0.9.4 is released.
IMHO:
If you want a nav-bar, it should pretty much duplicate the content on 
the main-menu (or perhaps a subset of main-menu entries), and match the 
style of the rest of the site (ie: currently black text on blue).

I also think the releases/branches page (and main-menu item) should 
return.  There's too much difference between branches to cover with a 
simple nav bar.

For quick access, I think listing a few of the current popular 
distributions on the main page is fine (ie: perhaps a bering, 
bering-uClibc, and 'others' link, with others taking you to the releases 
page).

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Re: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 04:26, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 Mike Noyes wrote:
  The readability of the nav bar may be related to the small caps, and
  fonts you have installed. Do you have the Bitstream Vera fonts
  installed?
 
 The larger size is readable for me (Mozilla 1.6 on 'doze), but the 
 darker colors make the nav-bar seem 'disconnected' from the actual 
 website, especially on the pages that still have the smaller text.

Charles,
Thanks for the feedback. :-)

I'll work on the navbar readability. However, I think people are
misunderstanding the purpose of the navbar. In essence we now have seven
websites. They share common code and a database, but everything else is
separate. I created the navbar to allow moving from one website to
another and back again. This is one of the reasons I used different
colors for the navbar. The navbar is separate from the branch content.

Everyone,
If we use the Hub main menu Releases/Branches page exclusively, how will
we navigate to one of the other branch sites within our website? Menus
are unique to each branch (content is stored in the database using a
table prefix).


 I also think the releases/branches page (and main-menu item) should 
 return.  There's too much difference between branches to cover with a 
 simple nav bar.
 
 For quick access, I think listing a few of the current popular 
 distributions on the main page is fine (ie: perhaps a bering, 
 bering-uClibc, and 'others' link, with others taking you to the releases 
 page).

Charles,
I'll work on these two suggestions. I guess the information wasn't as
redundant as I first though.

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Re: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:18, Larry Platzek wrote:
 Mike was looking at //leaf.steinkueler.net/bering-uclibc/
 The Floppy Image section and clicked on changelog section
 link and it took me to //leaf.steinkueler.net/ a minor whoops.

Larry,
Thanks for the feedback. What url was the Floppy Image section at?

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Re: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Mike,
Mike Noyes wrote:
I'll work on these two suggestions. I guess the information wasn't as
redundant as I first though.
Just to throw in my two cents - I agree that it was/is redundant. But I 
also feel that it is not obvious to the casual observer how to get to a 
specific branch without that redundancy.
If we can make it easier for users to find the information they're 
looking for, I'd say it's very well worth the redundancy.

It's obviously not a big deal for somebody who knows the page, but I'd 
say we should make it as easy as possible for new users to find the 
relevant information (well, either that, or be prepared to answer tons 
of help, I can't find the packages page anymore questions).

Martin

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Re: [leaf-devel] New Website

2004-05-17 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 11:20, Tom Eastep wrote:
 When you download Mozilla (or Firefox), be sure to download the
  GTK2/Xft version; with the standard version, the fonts suck...

Everyone,
If you're using WinXP, make sure you turn ClearType on.

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/cleartypeactivate.htm

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