Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 01:57:26PM -0700, Mike Noyes wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 13:36, David Douthitt wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:09:12PM +0200, Ewald Wasscher wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 21:22, David Douthitt wrote: BTW, your CVS devel/ddouthitt tree has been empty for the last days. Is that on purpose? I went there to get a fresh copy of your build system, and noticed this. Wasn't aware of that! Why would this be, Mike? David, You told me off-list I could have devel/ddouthitt/base moved to src/oxygen/base. I just forwarded the message where you said it was ok to do this to you off-list. I don't need to see the message to know I've forgotten that; your word is good enough for me. msg05619/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
Hey Mike you mean with all your spare time you do not keep your own page current? You know I just kidding you, I know how much you you do for LEAF SourceForge. I hope you realize how much you are appreciated! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Larry Platzek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 18 Sep 2002, Mike Noyes wrote: David, Thanks. :-) I try to keep everyone informed of any changes I make to our site, but sometimes I forget. I really should keep my developer page on our web site current. http://leaf.sourceforge.net/mod.php?mod=userpagemenu=1400page_id=20 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! Open Source Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab ___ leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
Le Mardi 17 Septembre 2002 19:18, Ewald Wasscher a écrit : Hello all, I am currently evaluating GAR, the build-system from http://www.lnx-bbc.org/ for use with leaf. So far it looks really good. It's flexible, quite well documented and there are lots of examples for building packages, a bootdisk or an iso image. I encourage anyone interested in the subject to take a look at the above site. Ewald Wasscher Ewald: Following on this and the previous thread on buiding Bering from source tree, please feel free to test that or any other approach to test your ideas on building Bering from source since apparently their an interest for it. I am ready to help you on this project (I won't have much time to work on it myself and even if I feel that there will be many questions/obstacles along the way, I think it might be worth trying). One key question is the development environnement to be chosen. I understand that you consider slink as being outdated which is true but which is still the only way to have a single floppy based distro. I know that some users have switched to other media but I have the impression it is not the majority (Mike: what about a poll on this on the leaf site ?) Some recent programs (e.g. freeswan userland stuff) have to be patched to compile cleanly with slink. Would you be ready to do that on - say - a slink and woody based environnement ? Suggestions /comments from the list ? Jacques --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! Open Source Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab ___ leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:57, Mike Noyes wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 11:37, Jacques Nilo wrote: One key question is the development environnement to be chosen. I understand that you consider slink as being outdated which is true but which is still the only way to have a single floppy based distro. I know that some users have switched to other media but I have the impression it is not the majority (Mike: what about a poll on this on the leaf site ?) Jacques, I'll attempt to get our phpWS poll code working. I'll keep you informed of my progress. Would it be a good idea to create a leaf-stats package that periodically sends an email with details about the system. Of course only after approval of the user. To get an idea of what I mean: http://gentoo.iq-computing.de/ Ewald Wasscher --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! Open Source Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab ___ leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 13:09, Ewald Wasscher wrote: BTW, your CVS devel/ddouthitt tree has been empty for the last days. Is that on purpose? I went there to get a fresh copy of your build system, and noticed this. Ewald, David's base tree was moved it's now in src/oxygen. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/leaf/src/oxygen/ -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! Open Source Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab ___ leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 20:37, Jacques Nilo wrote: Le Mardi 17 Septembre 2002 19:18, Ewald Wasscher a écrit : Ewald: Following on this and the previous thread on buiding Bering from source tree, please feel free to test that or any other approach to test your ideas on building Bering from source since apparently their an interest for it. Ah great to hear this! I will do so after (or paralell with) the next release of Dachstein. I am ready to help you on this project (I won't have much time to work on it myself and even if I feel that there will be many questions/obstacles along the way, I think it might be worth trying). Nice to hear this. I'll appreciate any help, also if it isn't much. One key question is the development environnement to be chosen. I understand that you consider slink as being outdated You understand that correctly. which is true but which is still the only way to have a single floppy based distro. I don't agree with you that it's the _only_ way. But maybe we can keep glibc-2.0.7 as an option. I know you have been wary of uClibc and other c-libraries targeted at embedded systems in the past, but I think it is possible to have a base system with uClibc (and AFAIK all of the programs on the Bering floppy can be built with it). If you want to discuss the use of uClibc maybe we can move that to another thread? Furthermore there is still some room left for space saving in Bering: - mkfs.minix from asmutils. - switch to ash from busybox - ? development branch of busybox is smaller - compile iptables with the extensions linked in statically. I know that some users have switched to other media but I have the impression it is not the majority (Mike: what about a poll on this on the leaf site ?) Yes! Polls! Polls! Polls! (What branch do you use? What hardware? What purpose? What do you want added/changed to leaf? Would you switch to a glibc 2.2 based leaf even if it would be bigger? etc) Some recent programs (e.g. freeswan userland stuff) have to be patched to compile cleanly with slink. That is one reason I don't like using glibc 2.0.x. The major other ones are the not exactly known but almost certainly present security holes. Would you be ready to do that on - say - a slink and woody based environnement ? If necessary. But I think I prefer a combined uClibc/glibc 2.x.y approach where x=2 or x=1. Suggestions /comments from the list ? Yes please, give them. Ewald --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! Open Source Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab ___ leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
Re: [leaf-devel] Possible framework for build-from-source system.
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 13:36, David Douthitt wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:09:12PM +0200, Ewald Wasscher wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 21:22, David Douthitt wrote: BTW, your CVS devel/ddouthitt tree has been empty for the last days. Is that on purpose? I went there to get a fresh copy of your build system, and noticed this. Wasn't aware of that! Why would this be, Mike? David, You told me off-list I could have devel/ddouthitt/base moved to src/oxygen/base. I just forwarded the message where you said it was ok to do this to you off-list. See SF support request 603606. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=603606group_id=1atid=21 -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: AMD - Your access to the experts on Hammer Technology! Open Source Linux Developers, register now for the AMD Developer Symposium. Code: EX8664 http://www.developwithamd.com/developerlab ___ leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
