[Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-13 Thread jp

While sifting through docs I found this error which I have been receiving, while 
trying to 
ping any internet IP from the LRP box:
sendto(): operation not permitted
It says that this is the result of incorrect setup of the Firewall rules.  Where can I 
find some 
documentation on setting up a set of Firewall rules that will give me at least minimal 
access 
to the net (www & email for now).  At least if I can get that working I can slowly 
work 
through the rest.  

My main problem is right now, to test out the router I have to switch my cable modem 
to it.  
Once that is done, it makes it difficult (currently impossible) to do any research on 
problems as they come up.

Again, your help is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,

Justin Pease
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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-13 Thread dgilleece

What distribution are you using?
What IP addresses are you using for your external interface?


Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> While sifting through docs I found this error which I have been
> receiving, while trying to 
> ping any internet IP from the LRP box:
> sendto(): operation not permitted
> It says that this is the result of incorrect setup of the Firewall
> rules.  Where can I find some 
> documentation on setting up a set of Firewall rules that will give me at
> least minimal access 
> to the net (www & email for now).  At least if I can get that working I
> can slowly work 
> through the rest.  
> 
> My main problem is right now, to test out the router I have to switch my
> cable modem to it.  
> Once that is done, it makes it difficult (currently impossible) to do
> any research on 
> problems as they come up.
> 
> Again, your help is greatly appreciated.
> Sincerely,
> 
> Justin Pease
> N u a n c e   N i n e
> Web Usability, Development and Design
> www.nuance9.com
> 
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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-13 Thread dgilleece

A couple of things are happening.  First, it seems that your Dach box is not 
obtaining a proper address from your ISP.  If your address used to be 
24.116.x.x, you should be seeing something similar now.  Since it is getting 
assigned a 10.x.x.x address, the ipfilter code is generating the "operation not 
permitted" message --- as Dachstein disallows RFC 1918 addresses (of which the 
10.x.x.x is).  Since these are reserved for the "private" side of networks, the 
external interface will reject everything if an "illegal" address is configured 
on that interface.

The thing to track down is why the external interface is not obtaining the 
proper IP from your ISP.  That is outside of my experience, since I have always 
used static IPs.  I'd recommend you walk very carefully thru the network.conf, 
paying close attention to the sections involving dynamic external IPs.  A good 
step-by-step procedure for setting it up can be found at:  
http://www.pigtail.net/LRP/ --- about half way down the page is where the fun 
begins...

Also note, some ISPs restrict your connection to a specific MAC address.  If 
your ISP does that, it may be rejecting your attempt to obtain a DHCP lease.  
If that is the case, you will have to notify your ISP to give the MAC of your 
intended external NIC.  I recall somewhere that some systems have "trick" for 
spoofing the MAC address, so you don't have to involve the ISP.  Unfortunately, 
I haven't seen that approach in action, and I don't know if or how it would 
work. 

Good luck,

Dan



Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> I am using the most recent DachStein Floppy based distro.
> The current install appears to have setup 10.x.x.x IP addresses for the
> external NIC (eth0).
> This seems strange to me, as in the past the ISP DHCP assigned IP was
> 24.116.x.x.  

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Justin
> 
> On 13 Jan 2002 at 20:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What distribution are you using?
> What IP addresses are you using for your external interface?
> 
> 
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > While sifting through docs I found this error which I have been
> > receiving, while trying to 
> > ping any internet IP from the LRP box:
> > sendto(): operation not permitted
> > It says that this is the result of incorrect setup of the Firewall
> > rules.  Where can I find some 
> > documentation on setting up a set of Firewall rules that will give me
> at
> > least minimal access 
> > to the net (www & email for now).  At least if I can get that working
> I
> > can slowly work 
> > through the rest.  
> > 
> > My main problem is right now, to test out the router I have to switch
> my
> > cable modem to it.  
> > Once that is done, it makes it difficult (currently impossible) to
> do
> > any research on 
> > problems as they come up.
> > 
> > Again, your help is greatly appreciated.
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > Justin Pease
> > N u a n c e   N i n e
> > Web Usability, Development and Design
> > www.nuance9.com
> > 
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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-14 Thread Ray Olszewski

Hi. The excerpt you quote looks like womething I wrote. If that's so ...

... what I was trting to indicate is that if the LEAF router has in place an
ipchains rule that DENYs input going to the address you try to ping (or,
possibly, to your gateway), you will get this message from sendto(). The
action you take in response is to inspect your actual firewall rulesets
(with "ipchins -L -n -v", assuming a 2.2.x kernel) and find the problem
rule. Once you find it, you can backtrack to the problem in the config files.

There is no such thing, **in general**, as "a set of Firewall rules that
will give me at least minimal access to the net". LEAF systems ... both
their out-of-the-box firewalling and add-ins like EchoWall and SeaWall ...
attempt to provide for setting up rulesets to handle the most common forms
of Internet connections. But you, or whoever is troubleshooting your
problem, needs to know what your setup is in order to figure out what
firewalling will work with it.

If you want to check access ***for test purposes only***, you can often do
so by making these changes to your ruleset:

ipchains -P input ACCEPT
ipchains -P ourput ACCEPT
ipchains -F input
ipchains -F output

This leaves in place ONLY your forward-chain rules, which handle NAT'ing.
But it is embarrassingly insecure, so I wouldn't recommend doing this except
for a brief test.

At 07:08 PM 1/13/02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>While sifting through docs I found this error which I have been receiving,
while trying to 
>ping any internet IP from the LRP box:
>sendto(): operation not permitted
>It says that this is the result of incorrect setup of the Firewall rules.
Where can I find some 
>documentation on setting up a set of Firewall rules that will give me at
least minimal access 
>to the net (www & email for now).  At least if I can get that working I can
slowly work 
>through the rest.  


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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-14 Thread Dr. Richard W. Tibbs

I have sporadically had the same problem, probably due to network 
misconfig on my end.
What I am still curious about --- maybe someone can explain this --- is 
why a unix socket system call, sendto(), is being invoked by ping --- 
which assumedly would be using inet calls like listen() and accept().
Sendto() should only be used for IPC on the same machine, right?
H

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> While sifting through docs I found this error which I have been receiving, while 
>trying to 
> ping any internet IP from the LRP box:
> sendto(): operation not permitted
> It says that this is the result of incorrect setup of the Firewall rules.  Where can 
>I find some 
> documentation on setting up a set of Firewall rules that will give me at least 
>minimal access 
> to the net (www & email for now).  At least if I can get that working I can slowly 
>work 
> through the rest.  
> 
> My main problem is right now, to test out the router I have to switch my cable modem 
>to it.  
> Once that is done, it makes it difficult (currently impossible) to do any research 
>on 
> problems as they come up.
> 
> Again, your help is greatly appreciated.
> Sincerely,
> 
> Justin Pease
> N u a n c e   N i n e
> Web Usability, Development and Design
> www.nuance9.com
> 
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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-14 Thread Mark Plowman

Richard,

> From: "Dr. Richard W. Tibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:06:13 -0500
> 
> I have sporadically had the same problem, probably due to network 
> misconfig on my end.
> What I am still curious about --- maybe someone can explain this --- is 
> why a unix socket system call, sendto(), is being invoked by ping --- 
> which assumedly would be using inet calls like listen() and accept().
> Sendto() should only be used for IPC on the same machine, right?
> H

Quickly checking my handy 'libc' info it says by 'sendto':

   The normal way of sending data on a datagram socket is by using the
`sendto' function, declared in `sys/socket.h'.

which fits with my memory.

'ping' send ICMP packages/datagrams and doesn't use TCP/IP which is
what the listen (), accept () family of function are for.




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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup

2002-01-14 Thread Matt Schalit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> While sifting through docs I found this error which I have been receiving, while 
>trying to
> ping any internet IP from the LRP box:
> sendto(): operation not permitted

It's either your network or your firewall rules or some permissions
on some files got messed up.  Quick fix is download LEAF version
called Dachstein 1.0.2.  It's well written, and is a complete
firewall, once you get your nic modules and your network.conf straight.
For a home setup, that goes quickly when you read the readme.


I.)  Your network isn't functioning.
   Network nic modules may not be on diskette.
   Network nic modules may be on diskette but are commented in modules.conf.
   Network nic modules may be on disk and uncommented but helper modules
  may be commented and aren't being loaded before nic modules.
   Syntax errors may be in /etc/network.conf.

Ways to check:
  ifconfig -a
  netstat -rn

orip addr show
  ip route show

and   more /var/log/syslog
and   dmesg | more

stuff like that, ok.



> It says that this is the result of incorrect setup of the Firewall rules.  Where can 
>I find some
> documentation on setting up a set of Firewall rules that will give me at least 
>minimal access
> to the net (www & email for now).  At least if I can get that working I can slowly 
>work
> through the rest.


II)  It's your firewall rules.  Strange.  I've written a firewall or
 two, and I don't remember this error.  But then again, I don't go looking
 to stop ping.  From my memory, when ping can't get out, it simply sits
 there, waiting, as versus giving you a lower level driver error.

You don't have any rules.
The ones you have are wrong.
You made your own.
You are using an old LEAF version.
You are using the newest and best LEAF, but you have syntax
 errors in network.conf or you deleted some other files.
You are cobbleing a LEAF together out of parts and pieces
   you've found on the net, due to rational exuberance, but
   you lack the hindsight to know what you really wanted.

something like that.

Ways to fix:
Well, you asked for some rules, so what you do is this:
   1)  List you rules with
 /sbin/ipchains -L -v -n > /tmp/rules
 /usr/sbin/ipmasqamd portfw -ln >> /tmp/rules
 cat /proc/net/ip_masq/autofw >> /tmp/rules
 more /tmp/rules

   something like that gets you all the rules that maybe
   in effect.

2)  To get rid of all the current rules is to flush
them out, using:
 /sbin/ipchains -F
 /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm portfw -f
 /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -F

3)  To set the global policy to ACCEPT for the input
and output chains on all nics, you would do:
 /sbin/ipchains -P input ACCEPT
 /sbin/ipchains -P output ACCEPT
 /sbin/ipchains -P forward ACCEPT

4)  Some rules for a system that uses one IP addresses
from an ISP on eth0 as the external nic, and one
private LAN that uses NAT to hide it that is called
the 192.168.1.0 network connected to eth1, could use 
the following after flushing and setting the policies:


/sbin/ipchains -A foward -j MASQ -p all -s 192.168.1.0/24


It doesn't take much, does it :-o

What this does is allow all traffic in and out of both
nics, and masq's the internal network.  It leaves you
open to connection attempts to services like telnet 
running on the LEAF.  Even though the LEAF is open to 
the connection attempts, the internal network is unreachable
because it is masq'd and there is no route to it.
It leaves you open to spoofed and stuffed attacks, which
are very rare.  So do use this forever.  You're fine with
it while you configure your system if you don't have any
services running, like telnet or ssh on the LEAF.


This mini ruleset will work if your default gateway and
the rest of your routing table is correct.

However, like I said, the simple answer is Dachstein on floppy only.
If you want to doink around with the CD version, that different.

Good Luck,
Matthew

 
> My main problem is right now, to test out the router I have to switch my cable modem 
>to it.
> Once that is done, it makes it difficult (currently impossible) to do any research on
> problems as they come up.
> 
> Again, your help is greatly appreciated.
> Sincerely,
> 
> Justin Pease
> N u a n c e   N i n e
> Web Usability, Development and Design
> www.nuance9.com

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[Leaf-user] Firewall setup Questions, Newbie

2002-01-28 Thread Brian Downey

I need to setup a firewall for my office. There is already a router/gateway box
but we dont have access to it in order to put a firewall on. I would like to
use a LEAF box as a firewall directly behind the router. Is it possible to set
one of the LRP dists up as a firewall only? DHCP is already setup on another
machine and I cannot start changing the IP's of the office computers. There
isn't much mention of setting up a firewall solely in the documentation that
I have seen, is there an example of what needs to be configured for a LRP dist?


Any help is greatly appreciated,

Cheers, 
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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup / Cable Setup

2002-01-19 Thread jp

Ok.  I have spent the last 2 days messing with Dachstein (Floppy based).

I still can't get it to work. 

I have gone through all menu option on lrcfg about 20 times.  I have looked over most 
of 
the documentation I have found.

This is my situation:

I am getting my DHCPACK from my ISP.  DHCP on the external side is working and sets 
up.

DHCP on the internal side seems to be working, as my XP box is pulling the IP, etc. 
from 
the LRP box.

Under pretty much default settings, I can ping from both boxes to each other - but not 
to 
the outside world.  When I attempt to ping from the client box out - I get request 
time 
outs.  When I attempt to ping from the LRP out I get type 3 ping failure 
("sendto():operation not permitted.)  The documentation I could find indicated that 
this 
was a firewall issue possibly related to ipchains.  

I looked at ipchains, and really didn't have any idea where to start.

So instead I just went into ipfilter.conf and commented the following line as so:
# IPCH="sbin/ipchains --no-warnings"

I figured this would just cut out all ip packet filtering, and at least narrow down 
the 
problem.  After doing this, backing up, and rebooting - I can now ping out from the 
LRP 
box and can even resolve domain names.  From the client box I can ping to the external 
node of the LRP box, but no further.  It still get "request time out" on all outside 
pings.

LRP Box Stats:

p166 w/ 64mb
internal IP 192.168.1.254
external IP 10.120.92.142

XP Box
p550 w/256mb
internal ip 192.168.1.1
gateway 192.168.1.254
dhcp server 192.168.1.254
dns1 24.116.0.81
dns2 24.116.0.201



Pretty much everything is set to default other than that one line I mentioned earlier.

guitarlynn requested the following info:

results of ip route show:

192.168.1.0/24  dev eth1proto   kernel  scope   linksrc 
192.168.1.254

10.120.92.0/22  dev eth0proto   kernel  scope   linksc  
10.120.92.142

default via 10.120.92.1 dev eth0

results of netstat -i

Kernel Interface table
Iface   MTU Met RX-OK   RX-ERR  RX-DRP  RX-
OVR TX-OK   TX-ERR  TX-DRP  TX-OVR  Flg
eth015000   620 0   0   0   
106 0   0   0   BMRU
eth115000   381 0   0   0   
351 0   0   0   BMRU
lo  39240   108 0   0   0   
108 0   0   0   LRU

I would guess turning off ipchains really isn't a good solution (especially since it 
doesn't 
fully solve the problem).  Any help would be appreciated.  If you need more info - 
just tell 
me what to send.

Sincerely,

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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup / Cable Setup

2002-01-19 Thread Ray Olszewski

First, your original problem was (probably) that your external connection
uses a private-range (10.b.c.d) address. Since you say the LEAF router
itself works with this address (after you disable ipchains, that is), I
assume the address is legit and not an symptom of, say, a
MAC-address-authentication problem with your ISP. Dachstein by default DENYs
input from and output to all private-range addresses on the external
connection. 

Second, your "solution" of turning off all firewalling was a good *test* but
a bad *solution*. (Your interpretation of the ping response was right on
target.) The reason is that you removed the forward-chain rules that NAT
your LAN addresses. Without NAT, you can't use an unroutable private address
range on the LAN. So in this instance, we'd exect to see the router itself
able to connect to the Internet, but not the hosts behind it on the LAN ...
exactly what you report.

The better *test* is to restore the line you commented out. Then, after the
router finishes the boot/init process, enter these commands:

ipchains -F input
ipchains -F output
ipchains -P input ACCEPT
ipchains -P output ACCEPT

This clears the input and output chains while leaving the forward chain
alone. Now see if you can ping from the LAN through the router to the
Internet. If you can, we've found the problem. If you can't, then the
problem is somewhere else.

Having found it, we still have to fix it. I don't use the Dach default
firewall, but someone else can tell you the edit for it ... or you can try
scanning the list archives (the external-privvate-address problem comes up
regularly on the list). [Mike, is this problem common enough to deserve a
FAQ answer?] Or you can use a different drop-in firewall; I know
echowall.lrp, for example, handles private-range external addresses OK.



At 04:20 PM 1/19/02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
>This is my situation:
>
>I am getting my DHCPACK from my ISP.  DHCP on the external side is working
and sets 
>up.
>
>DHCP on the internal side seems to be working, as my XP box is pulling the
IP, etc. from 
>the LRP box.
>
>Under pretty much default settings, I can ping from both boxes to each
other - but not to 
>the outside world.  When I attempt to ping from the client box out - I get
request time 
>outs.  When I attempt to ping from the LRP out I get type 3 ping failure 
>("sendto():operation not permitted.)  The documentation I could find
indicated that this 
>was a firewall issue possibly related to ipchains.  
>
>I looked at ipchains, and really didn't have any idea where to start.
>
>So instead I just went into ipfilter.conf and commented the following line
as so:
># IPCH="sbin/ipchains --no-warnings"
>
>I figured this would just cut out all ip packet filtering, and at least
narrow down the 
>problem.  After doing this, backing up, and rebooting - I can now ping out
from the LRP 
>box and can even resolve domain names.  From the client box I can ping to
the external 
>node of the LRP box, but no further.  It still get "request time out" on
all outside pings.
>
>LRP Box Stats:
>
>p166 w/ 64mb
>internal IP 192.168.1.254
>external IP 10.120.92.142
>
>XP Box
>p550 w/256mb
>internal ip 192.168.1.1
>gateway 192.168.1.254
>dhcp server 192.168.1.254
>dns1 24.116.0.81
>dns2 24.116.0.201
[...]


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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup / Cable Setup

2002-01-19 Thread guitarlynn

Put a blank floppy in the LEAF floppy drive.
At a prompt, enter "mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt"
  "cat /etc/network.conf >> /mnt/network.txt"
  "umount  /mnt"

send any other information on other things you've done to configure the
box. You shouldn't have to modify anything but network.conf and add 
your modules. You can then take the network.txt file and copy/paste it
in a email.  This appears to be the source of your problem unless you
have modified something else manually.

It sounds like your ping isn't attempting to ping the internet.
make sure that :
IPFWDING_KERNEL=FILTER_ON
IPFILTER_SWITCH=firewall

Other note:
XP Box
p550 w/256mb
internal ip 192.168.1.1
gateway 192.168.1.254
dhcp server 192.168.1.254
dns1 24.116.0.81  <~~~ If your running dnscache.lrp, change to
dns2 24.116.0.201<~~~ 192.168.1.254

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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup / Cable Setup

2002-01-19 Thread guitarlynn

DUH! 
Thanks Ray!
nm my post.
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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup / Cable Setup

2002-01-19 Thread Victor McAllister

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok.  I have spent the last 2 days messing with Dachstein (Floppy based).
>
> I still can't get it to work.
>
> I have gone through all menu option on lrcfg about 20 times.  I have looked over 
>most of
> the documentation I have found.
>
> This is my situation:
>
> I am getting my DHCPACK from my ISP.  DHCP on the external side is working and sets
> up.
>



> internal IP 192.168.1.254
> external IP 10.120.92.142
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Justin Pease
> N u a n c e   N i n e

You need to comment out the following line in /etc/ipfilter.conf
close to the start of the file - around line 200 under
stopMartians () {
# RFC 1918/1627/1597 blocks
#  $IPCH -A $LIST -j DENY -p all  -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 0/0 -l $*
$IPCH -A $LIST -j DENY -p all  -s 172.16.0.0/12 -d 0/0 -l $*
$IPCH -A $LIST -j DENY -p all  -s 192.168.0.0/16 -d 0/0 -l $*

That should allow 10 private addresses in through the firewall.  Does your ISP tell 
you that
they are masquerading you with private addresses?  I think it is unethical to not tell 
clients
that they are not given a real routable IP.
PS
I love my ISP.  Not only do they give out static ips, but they will give out extra 
ones to their
clients without charge.  In this day of AOL and other marketing schemes it is 
refreshing to find
someone who is technically superb and would rather be ethical than take your money.  
Not too
many do that.


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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup / Cable Setup

2002-01-20 Thread Ewald Wasscher

Ray Olszewski wrote:



>
>Having found it, we still have to fix it. I don't use the Dach default
>firewall, but someone else can tell you the edit for it ... or you can try
>scanning the list archives (the external-privvate-address problem comes up
>regularly on the list). [Mike, is this problem common enough to deserve a
>FAQ answer?] Or you can use a different drop-in firewall; I know
>echowall.lrp, for example, handles private-range external addresses OK.
>
>
The default Dachstein firewall scripts deny traffic on the external 
interface that comes from/goes to private-range ip-adresses. I think you 
can solve this in your case by commenting out line 208 in  
/etc/ipfilter.conf. Here is how to do it:

- Go to the lrcfg menu (if you are not already there), choose 1, then 2. 
Now you are editing /etc/ipfilter.conf.
- Go to line 208 (the line number is at the bottom right of your screen)
- Place a # at the beginning of line 208. (just like line 207)
- Save the changes, and exit from the editor
- Exit from the menu so that you are at the commandline.
- On the commandline type this:

svi network ipfilter reload

- Test the changed firewall. If everything works ok you can backup 
etc.lrp through the menu.

Good luck!

Ewald Wasscher


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Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall setup Questions, Newbie

2002-01-28 Thread guitarlynn

On Monday 28 January 2002 19:56, Brian Downey wrote:
> I need to setup a firewall for my office. There is already a
> router/gateway box but we dont have access to it in order to put a
> firewall on. I would like to use a LEAF box as a firewall directly
> behind the router. Is it possible to set one of the LRP dists up as a
> firewall only? DHCP is already setup on another machine and I cannot
> start changing the IP's of the office computers. There isn't much
> mention of setting up a firewall solely in the documentation that I
> have seen, is there an example of what needs to be configured for a
> LRP dist?

A transparent, bridging firewall!!! Yes, LEAF can do this!
Check out:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/thc/dox/pa.txt

Hope this helps,
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RE: [Leaf-user] Firewall setup Questions, Newbie

2002-01-28 Thread Richard Doyle

> I need to setup a firewall for my office. There is already a
> router/gateway box
> but we dont have access to it in order to put a firewall on.
> I would like to
> use a LEAF box as a firewall directly behind the router. Is

You should provide lots more information about your existing setup. I'll
focus on DHCP. Does the DHCP server live behind the existing
router/gateway? Does the office network use real, routable IPs or
private ones?

> it possible to set
> one of the LRP dists up as a firewall only? DHCP is already
> setup on another
> machine and I cannot start changing the IP's of the office
> computers. There

I don't understand. DHCP provides dynamic IPs, so the office computers
may be changing IPs willy-nilly. DHCP clients are agnostic about the
source of their DHCP services. In fact, they broadcast requests for
those services to all (255.255.255.255).

If one of the machines on your side of the router is providing DHCP
service, the LEAF box could replace that DHCP server, or not, as you
wish.

If the DHCP server will be outside the router and LEAF boxes, you can
use dhcrelay to pass DHCP requests and responses to the DHCP server. I
can provide a copy of dhcrelay.lrp if you like, but you have bigger
questions to answer before that package would be of any use to you.

> isn't much mention of setting up a firewall solely in the
> documentation that
> I have seen, is there an example of what needs to be
> configured for a LRP dist?
>
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
> Brian

-Richard


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RE: [Leaf-user] Firewall setup Questions, Newbie

2002-01-29 Thread Brian Downey

> I need to setup a firewall for my office. There is already a
> router/gateway box
> but we dont have access to it in order to put a firewall on.
> I would like to
> use a LEAF box as a firewall directly behind the router. Is

You should provide lots more information about your existing setup. I'll
focus on DHCP. Does the DHCP server live behind the existing
router/gateway? Does the office network use real, routable IPs or
private ones?

> it possible to set
> one of the LRP dists up as a firewall only? DHCP is already
> setup on another
> machine and I cannot start changing the IP's of the office
> computers. There

I don't understand. DHCP provides dynamic IPs, so the office computers
may be changing IPs willy-nilly. DHCP clients are agnostic about the
source of their DHCP services. In fact, they broadcast requests for
those services to all (255.255.255.255).

If one of the machines on your side of the router is providing DHCP
service, the LEAF box could replace that DHCP server, or not, as you
wish.

If the DHCP server will be outside the router and LEAF boxes, you can
use dhcrelay to pass DHCP requests and responses to the DHCP server. I
can provide a copy of dhcrelay.lrp if you like, but you have bigger
questions to answer before that package would be of any use to you.

> isn't much mention of setting up a firewall solely in the
> documentation that
> I have seen, is there an example of what needs to be
> configured for a LRP dist?
>
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
> Brian

-Richard
-
Apologies, I'll be clearer.
All the machines reside behind router.The DHCP box assigns real routable IP's.
There are also several machines with set IP's in the same range which cannot
change. The LEAF box could do the DHCP job but I'd prefer to leave the current
machine as is. What I'm looking to do is put the LEAF box immediatly behind
the router/gateway and infront of all machines in the network. As the gateway
is already set up and DHCP is taken care of I just need to configure a LEAF
to be a transparent firewall. 

Thanks again. 
Brian.


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Sendto usage (was Re: [Leaf-user] Firewall Setup)

2002-01-14 Thread Jeff Newmiller

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Dr. Richard W. Tibbs wrote:

> 
> I have sporadically had the same problem, probably due to network 
> misconfig on my end.
> What I am still curious about --- maybe someone can explain this --- is 
> why a unix socket system call, sendto(), is being invoked by ping --- 
> which assumedly would be using inet calls like listen() and accept().
> Sendto() should only be used for IPC on the same machine, right?

No.  I haven't done much network programming, but I am pretty sure
sendto should be used whenever you want to send a connectionless message.

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