[Leaf-user] ipsec on a floppy? managing packages in Windows?

2002-02-10 Thread Christopher Holmes

I'm running Dachstein & trying to fit the freeswain IPSEC pacakges onto my
floppy, but don't have enough room.  I've moved up to 1722K format & removed
modules that I'm not using (dhclient, some ip-masq stuff, ethernet card
drivers) but I'm still falling about 75K short.  Any ideas where else I can
trim some space?  I've poked through the pacakges & can't find anything else
that can be removed or that's big enough to make a difference.

Also, I can unzip the package files with winzip.  Anyone know a good way to
re-pacakage them under windows 2K?  I don't have a full linux box up yet,
and my Dachstein box is in the grimy basement where I'd prefer not to be
spending a lot of time.

My other option is to move to a different media, but I'd prefer not to do
that either.

Thanks,
Chris




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Re: [Leaf-user] ipsec on a floppy? managing packages in Windows?

2002-02-10 Thread dgilleece

If your hardware isn't too old, changing media is really the way to go.  If 
your system's BIOS can support a bootable CD, that is unquestionably the way to 
go.  I switched from a single-floppy Eiger box to a Dachstein-CD setup (with 
IPSec), and the flexibility is incredible.  It's definitely worth consideration.

As far as trimming space goes, it sounds like you've been pretty thorough --- 
you just can't get 10 lbs of corn in 5 lb sack ;)

Dan

Quoting Christopher Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm running Dachstein & trying to fit the freeswain IPSEC pacakges onto
> my
> floppy, but don't have enough room.  I've moved up to 1722K format &
> removed
> modules that I'm not using (dhclient, some ip-masq stuff, ethernet
> card
> drivers) but I'm still falling about 75K short.  Any ideas where else I
> can
> trim some space?  I've poked through the pacakges & can't find anything
> else
> that can be removed or that's big enough to make a difference.
> 
> Also, I can unzip the package files with winzip.  Anyone know a good way
> to
> re-pacakage them under windows 2K?  I don't have a full linux box up
> yet,
> and my Dachstein box is in the grimy basement where I'd prefer not to
> be
> spending a lot of time.
> 
> My other option is to move to a different media, but I'd prefer not to
> do
> that either.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Leaf-user] ipsec on a floppy? managing packages in Windows?

2002-02-10 Thread Michael D. Schleif


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> If your hardware isn't too old, changing media is really the way to go.  If
> your system's BIOS can support a bootable CD, that is unquestionably the way to
> go.  I switched from a single-floppy Eiger box to a Dachstein-CD setup (with
> IPSec), and the flexibility is incredible.  It's definitely worth consideration.
> 
> As far as trimming space goes, it sounds like you've been pretty thorough ---
> you just can't get 10 lbs of corn in 5 lb sack ;)

Actually, DCD does *not* require a bootable cdrom.

One of my systems boots off of the floppy and then gets *all* of its
packages off of the cdrom.  This scheme leaves little room for
subsequent backups on floppy; but, the partial backup schema saves alot
of butt, in this regard.

HTH

> Quoting Christopher Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > I'm running Dachstein & trying to fit the freeswain IPSEC pacakges onto
> > my
> > floppy, but don't have enough room.  I've moved up to 1722K format &
> > removed
> > modules that I'm not using (dhclient, some ip-masq stuff, ethernet
> > card
> > drivers) but I'm still falling about 75K short.  Any ideas where else I
> > can
> > trim some space?  I've poked through the pacakges & can't find anything
> > else
> > that can be removed or that's big enough to make a difference.
> >
> > Also, I can unzip the package files with winzip.  Anyone know a good way
> > to
> > re-pacakage them under windows 2K?  I don't have a full linux box up
> > yet,
> > and my Dachstein box is in the grimy basement where I'd prefer not to
> > be
> > spending a lot of time.
> >
> > My other option is to move to a different media, but I'd prefer not to
> > do
> > that either.

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Re: [Leaf-user] ipsec on a floppy? managing packages in Windows?

2002-02-10 Thread Larry Platzek

One more option is how about using two floppy drives and diskettes?
The type do not have to be the same, 1 maybe 5.25 and 1 3.5 inch drives.
I think you will findout how at Charles or
http://home.attbi.com/~srlohman/linux/firewall/es-2disk.htmlhttp://home.attbi.com/~srlohman/linux/firewall/es-2disk.html
I know this is for Eigerstein but also will work for Dachstein.


Larry Platzek  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:55:13 -0600 (CST)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] ipsec  on a floppy?  managing packages in
> Windows?
>
> If your hardware isn't too old, changing media is really the way to go.  If
> your system's BIOS can support a bootable CD, that is unquestionably the way to
> go.  I switched from a single-floppy Eiger box to a Dachstein-CD setup (with
> IPSec), and the flexibility is incredible.  It's definitely worth consideration.
>
> As far as trimming space goes, it sounds like you've been pretty thorough ---
> you just can't get 10 lbs of corn in 5 lb sack ;)
>
> Dan
>
> Quoting Christopher Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I'm running Dachstein & trying to fit the freeswain IPSEC pacakges onto
> > my
> > floppy, but don't have enough room.  I've moved up to 1722K format &
> > removed
> > modules that I'm not using (dhclient, some ip-masq stuff, ethernet
> > card
> > drivers) but I'm still falling about 75K short.  Any ideas where else I
> > can
> > trim some space?  I've poked through the pacakges & can't find anything
> > else
> > that can be removed or that's big enough to make a difference.
> >
> > Also, I can unzip the package files with winzip.  Anyone know a good way
> > to
> > re-pacakage them under windows 2K?  I don't have a full linux box up
> > yet,
> > and my Dachstein box is in the grimy basement where I'd prefer not to
> > be
> > spending a lot of time.
> >
> > My other option is to move to a different media, but I'd prefer not to
> > do
> > that either.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Leaf-user] ipsec on a floppy? managing packages in Windows?

2002-02-10 Thread dgilleece

Perhaps I should have been clearer :)  My intent was to say that if it boots 
from the CD, you are a lot better off when loading packages, as the load time 
is significantly faster than a floppy.  That's what makes it "unquestionably 
the way to go."  Non-bootable CDs work, and give you the additional capacity, 
but less boost in load speed -- if that is important to you, as it is to me.

Dan

Quoting "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > If your hardware isn't too old, changing media is really the way to
> go.  If
> > your system's BIOS can support a bootable CD, that is unquestionably
> the way to
> > go.  I switched from a single-floppy Eiger box to a Dachstein-CD setup
> (with
> > IPSec), and the flexibility is incredible.  It's definitely worth
> consideration.
> > 
> > As far as trimming space goes, it sounds like you've been pretty
> thorough ---
> > you just can't get 10 lbs of corn in 5 lb sack ;)
> 
> Actually, DCD does *not* require a bootable cdrom.
> 
> One of my systems boots off of the floppy and then gets *all* of its
> packages off of the cdrom.  This scheme leaves little room for
> subsequent backups on floppy; but, the partial backup schema saves
> alot
> of butt, in this regard.
> 
> HTH

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