[Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... thanks for the info bernie ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... There are a number of these available, but you'll have to dig for them. Typical markets include embedded systems and server appliances. Typically, these systems have console re-direction (ie the normal BIOS boot screens and configuration are done via the serial port, rather than kb/monitor). These systems will be generally more expensive than standard hardware due to the more limited market. You may find obtaining a complete system is easier than finding just a motherboard. Right now you can get Intel INS1010 hosting appliances for about $400. This is a 1U box with CPU, memory, HDD, dual on-board NIC's, and 2 PCI slots (one normal, one low-profile). Their BIOS supports serial-port re-direction, and would make a nice router. I've got several of the INS1020's (same box with a faster CPU, more memory, and Ultra-160 SCSI) I'm using for servers. Best places I know of to find these boxes are e-bay and Business Systems Connection http://www.bizsyscon.com/products.asp?grp=spl All standard disclaimers apply...I bought my INS1020's from CompGeeks, not the BSC guys, so I know nothing about them, except they claim to have a stash of the 1010's, and are selling them occasionally on e-bay. Of course, you can always just pull the video card and turn off all errors in the BIOS. Some systems will boot this way, while others will complain there's no VGA card. Also, if memory serves, I think I've seen some cards that were essentially console redirectors...basically a ROM on a card with software that looks like a video card bios, but actually uses the serial port. It's been ages since I saw one of these, however, and with most BIOS's supporting serial redirection these days (at least if you buy a BIOS license and are building your own hardware...typical for the embedded market), I'm not sure if these cards are still around... Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
www.soekris.com Z DC On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 12:41, Bernie Berg wrote: howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... thanks for the info bernie ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 09:41, Bernie Berg wrote: howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... Bernie, Take a look at our hardware web links. http://leaf.sourceforge.net/links.php?op=viewlinkcid=8 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/links.php?op=viewslinksid=2 -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 09:54, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... There are a number of these available, but you'll have to dig for them. Typical markets include embedded systems and server appliances. Typically, these systems have console re-direction (ie the normal BIOS boot screens and configuration are done via the serial port, rather than kb/monitor). These systems will be generally more expensive than standard hardware due to the more limited market. Charles, Have you looked at the router designs on the site below? If so, what do you think of them? RDP Router Designs http://www.routerdesign.com/designs.shtml -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
Have you looked at the router designs on the site below? If so, what do you think of them? RDP Router Designs http://www.routerdesign.com/designs.shtml I hadn't seen this before. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry :-) Looks like the folks probably had fun building them, but I've sort of gotten hooked on rack-mount stuff lately... Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 11:29, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Have you looked at the router designs on the site below? If so, what do you think of them? RDP Router Designs http://www.routerdesign.com/designs.shtml I hadn't seen this before. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry :-) Looks like the folks probably had fun building them, but I've sort of gotten hooked on rack-mount stuff lately... Everyone, It looks like they're accepting router design submissions. Anyone with a digital camera and some time may want to submit a LEAF branch/release based design. RDP Submit your router http://routerdesign.com/submitdesign.shtml -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
RE: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
thanks for the leads!, btw, that router design project site is great... =) -Original Message- From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 09:41, Bernie Berg wrote: howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... Bernie, Take a look at our hardware web links. http://leaf.sourceforge.net/links.php?op=viewlinkcid=8 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/links.php?op=viewslinksid=2 -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/users/mhnoyes/ http://leaf-project.org/ ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
Re: [Leaf-user] motherboard with no vid card
www.soekris.com -- Sincerely, David Smead http://www.amplepower.com. On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Bernie Berg wrote: howdy... I'd like to make a minimalistic network appliance looking bearing firewall box... Is there a motherboard out there that will boot without a video card? since after the load all that would be needed is a network or serial connection... thanks for the info bernie ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user ___ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
