RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
Thanks for the help Chris, but I really wanted Bering/Shorewall as the router/firewall for the flexibility for DMZ configurations, dynamic DNS updates, etc. Steps to the final solution for the archives: - The Cayman 3320H cannot be put in bridge mode if it uses PPPoA. With the early firmware it will let you, but it doesn't work as a bridge. The later firmware will not let you. - Netopia said to try switching it to PPPoE and see if the Cayman can still connect. It did, I guess Bell South uses both PPPoA and PPPoE? - Once in PPPoE you can set it to bridge mode with the docs from the Netopia web site - From there setting up Bering was pretty smooth per the User Guide. The only thing that seemed odd was I thought the PPPoE would only use the pap id/pw, but I had to add the id/pw to the ppp chat setting also. Thanks again for the help, Todd -Original Message- From: Chris Blackmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:28 PM To: 'Todd Pearsall' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Sounds like you have a static IP at this location then. I believe you can let the Cayman take care of the DSL connection and just forward UDP port 500 and protocol 50 from the Cayman to the Bering box and achieve the desired result. Since you will be NATing the ports, don't forget to use ipsecnat for the TYPE column in the Shorewall Tunnels file. I have a Bering-FreeS/WAN Net-to-Net VPN using BellSouth DSL (dynamic IP and a Cayman) on one end and a T1 with a static IP on the other end and it works great. Chris -Original Message- From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:17 PM To: 'Chris Blackmon' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Thanks for the reply. I want to set up this office be able to join the vpn with 2 other Leaf routers and support road warrior VPN users. If been reading about their VPN add-on for the Cayman (SafeHarbour) and it sounds like I could use that to connect to the other offices for $40 per tunnel, but but 5-15 road warriors will get pricy, vs free like the other offices. I was trying to set the Cayman as bridge and do all the routing with Bering which I *assumed* meant Bering would have to bring up the PPPoA connection as well. I'd love to be wrong ;). Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: Chris Blackmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: 'Todd Pearsall' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Todd, Why do you want the Bering box to make the PPP connection to your ISP instead of the router? I have the same router with BellSouth DSL in Raleigh and would like to help, but I guess I am not clear on what you are trying to accomplish. Chris Blackmon -Original Message- From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Making a little progress. I was able to confirm in the Cayman router setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least I can focus getting the PPPoA up. I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have the Cayman attached to eth0. I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is: auto lo ppp0 eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 What I want to do is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto ppp0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider eth0 - auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to support the eth0 parameter. Should the internal be eth0 or eth1? Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Pearsall Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering (have 3 others running else where in the country). The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode
RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Todd Pearsall wrote: Thanks for the help Chris, but I really wanted Bering/Shorewall as the router/firewall for the flexibility for DMZ configurations, dynamic DNS updates, etc. Steps to the final solution for the archives: - The Cayman 3320H cannot be put in bridge mode if it uses PPPoA. With the early firmware it will let you, but it doesn't work as a bridge. The later firmware will not let you. - Netopia said to try switching it to PPPoE and see if the Cayman can still connect. It did, I guess Bell South uses both PPPoA and PPPoE? - Once in PPPoE you can set it to bridge mode with the docs from the Netopia web site - From there setting up Bering was pretty smooth per the User Guide. The only thing that seemed odd was I thought the PPPoE would only use the pap id/pw, but I had to add the id/pw to the ppp chat setting also. I think this last note contains a minor error. /etc/ppp/pap-secrets is a flat-file database of passwords for making connections. /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider is a connection-specific pppd options file in which the username for that connection must be specified. pppd looks up the password in the database, and uses the PAP protocol (a specific protocol layered on top of ppp) to authenticate the connection. /etc/chatscripts/provider is used for bringing up serial connections that might otherwise need a human hand to invoke the ppp protocol on the other end. PPPoE has no such phase prior to the beginning of ppp... the authentication is done AFTER the ppp protocol begins. Ergo, editing this file will have no effect on a PPPoE connection. To remember this, it may help to recognize that you can invoke ppp connections to multiple destinations, and each will have its own /etc/ppp/peers/* pppd options file that specifies the username for that connection, but the username database will contain the passwords for all connections you plan to make from this machine (at least the ones that use pap). Thanks again for the help, Thanks for summarizing your efforts. :) [ quotes from Chris omitted. ] --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...2k --- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
[leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering (have 3 others running else where in the country). The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode using instructions on the Cayman (now Netoptia website) and then began setting up Bering. BellSouth tech support is telling me the service is PPPoE, but the router is showing different settings they what they expect. Based on the Cayman settings it appears to me to be PPPoA (the ATM Configuration screens has one interface defined as ppp-llc). I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups without any success yet. Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta area that can confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints? I'm calling BellSouth again... Thanks, Todd --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
Making a little progress. I was able to confirm in the Cayman router setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least I can focus getting the PPPoA up. I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have the Cayman attached to eth0. I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is: auto lo ppp0 eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 What I want to do is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto ppp0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider eth0 - auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to support the eth0 parameter. Should the internal be eth0 or eth1? Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Pearsall Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering (have 3 others running else where in the country). The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode using instructions on the Cayman (now Netoptia website) and then began setting up Bering. BellSouth tech support is telling me the service is PPPoE, but the router is showing different settings they what they expect. Based on the Cayman settings it appears to me to be PPPoA (the ATM Configuration screens has one interface defined as ppp-llc). I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups without any success yet. Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta area that can confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints? I'm calling BellSouth again... Thanks, Todd --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com -- -- leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 07:52, Todd Pearsall wrote: snip I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups without any success yet. Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta area that can confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints? I'm calling BellSouth again... Have you seen this site on configuring the Cayman for BellSouth? http://www.netopia.com/en-us/support/technotes/hardware/CQG_122.html?print=yes It includes info on bridging. Stephen --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
Todd, Why do you want the Bering box to make the PPP connection to your ISP instead of the router? I have the same router with BellSouth DSL in Raleigh and would like to help, but I guess I am not clear on what you are trying to accomplish. Chris Blackmon -Original Message- From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Making a little progress. I was able to confirm in the Cayman router setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least I can focus getting the PPPoA up. I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have the Cayman attached to eth0. I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is: auto lo ppp0 eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 What I want to do is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto ppp0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider eth0 - auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to support the eth0 parameter. Should the internal be eth0 or eth1? Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Pearsall Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering (have 3 others running else where in the country). The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode using instructions on the Cayman (now Netoptia website) and then began setting up Bering. BellSouth tech support is telling me the service is PPPoE, but the router is showing different settings they what they expect. Based on the Cayman settings it appears to me to be PPPoA (the ATM Configuration screens has one interface defined as ppp-llc). I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups without any success yet. Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta area that can confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints? I'm calling BellSouth again... Thanks, Todd --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com -- -- leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com -- -- leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 08:05, Todd Pearsall wrote: Making a little progress. I was able to confirm in the Cayman router setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least I can focus getting the PPPoA up. I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have the Cayman attached to eth0. I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is: auto lo ppp0 eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 What I want to do is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto ppp0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider eth0 - auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to support the eth0 parameter. Should the internal be eth0 or eth1? Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated. I recently setup a Bering box on Sprint DSL in Florida (thanks to James Sturdevant). They use PPPoE but all of the PPPoE stuff was taken care of by the modem (XyZel) so I simply turned on the modem's bridge mode and configured the bering box as a normal eth0,eth1 setup with no PPP stuff. The only bit of black magic to get the whole thing working was to power cycle the LAN switch. Stephen --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
Thanks for the reply. I want to set up this office be able to join the vpn with 2 other Leaf routers and support road warrior VPN users. If been reading about their VPN add-on for the Cayman (SafeHarbour) and it sounds like I could use that to connect to the other offices for $40 per tunnel, but but 5-15 road warriors will get pricy, vs free like the other offices. I was trying to set the Cayman as bridge and do all the routing with Bering which I *assumed* meant Bering would have to bring up the PPPoA connection as well. I'd love to be wrong ;). Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: Chris Blackmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: 'Todd Pearsall' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Todd, Why do you want the Bering box to make the PPP connection to your ISP instead of the router? I have the same router with BellSouth DSL in Raleigh and would like to help, but I guess I am not clear on what you are trying to accomplish. Chris Blackmon -Original Message- From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Making a little progress. I was able to confirm in the Cayman router setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least I can focus getting the PPPoA up. I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have the Cayman attached to eth0. I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is: auto lo ppp0 eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 What I want to do is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto ppp0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider eth0 - auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to support the eth0 parameter. Should the internal be eth0 or eth1? Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Pearsall Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering (have 3 others running else where in the country). The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode using instructions on the Cayman (now Netoptia website) and then began setting up Bering. BellSouth tech support is telling me the service is PPPoE, but the router is showing different settings they what they expect. Based on the Cayman settings it appears to me to be PPPoA (the ATM Configuration screens has one interface defined as ppp-llc). I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups without any success yet. Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta area that can confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints? I'm calling BellSouth again... Thanks, Todd --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com -- -- leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com -- -- leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA?
Sounds like you have a static IP at this location then. I believe you can let the Cayman take care of the DSL connection and just forward UDP port 500 and protocol 50 from the Cayman to the Bering box and achieve the desired result. Since you will be NATing the ports, don't forget to use ipsecnat for the TYPE column in the Shorewall Tunnels file. I have a Bering-FreeS/WAN Net-to-Net VPN using BellSouth DSL (dynamic IP and a Cayman) on one end and a T1 with a static IP on the other end and it works great. Chris -Original Message- From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:17 PM To: 'Chris Blackmon' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Thanks for the reply. I want to set up this office be able to join the vpn with 2 other Leaf routers and support road warrior VPN users. If been reading about their VPN add-on for the Cayman (SafeHarbour) and it sounds like I could use that to connect to the other offices for $40 per tunnel, but but 5-15 road warriors will get pricy, vs free like the other offices. I was trying to set the Cayman as bridge and do all the routing with Bering which I *assumed* meant Bering would have to bring up the PPPoA connection as well. I'd love to be wrong ;). Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: Chris Blackmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: 'Todd Pearsall' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Todd, Why do you want the Bering box to make the PPP connection to your ISP instead of the router? I have the same router with BellSouth DSL in Raleigh and would like to help, but I guess I am not clear on what you are trying to accomplish. Chris Blackmon -Original Message- From: Todd Pearsall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? Making a little progress. I was able to confirm in the Cayman router setup that it is in fact PPPoA and not PPPoE so at least I can focus getting the PPPoA up. I'm using the Bering User's Guide PPPoA Configuration section which uses an ATM/PCI card vs. I have the Cayman attached to eth0. I'm not sure how I should be defining interfaces the example is: auto lo ppp0 eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 What I want to do is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto ppp0 iface ppp0 inet ppp provider dsl-provider eth0 - auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.254 masklen 24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 But the older ppp that you need for pppatm doesn't seem to support the eth0 parameter. Should the internal be eth0 or eth1? Any ideas or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Todd Pearsall Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [leaf-user] Help with BellSouth DSL in Atlanta and PPPoA? I'm trying to setup our location in Atlanta with Bering (have 3 others running else where in the country). The router is a Cayman 3220H which I set to bridge mode using instructions on the Cayman (now Netoptia website) and then began setting up Bering. BellSouth tech support is telling me the service is PPPoE, but the router is showing different settings they what they expect. Based on the Cayman settings it appears to me to be PPPoA (the ATM Configuration screens has one interface defined as ppp-llc). I was working with the PPPoE and now PPPoA Bering setups without any success yet. Does anyone have this service in the Atlanta area that can confirm if it is PPPoA and give me any hints? I'm calling BellSouth again... Thanks, Todd --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com -- -- leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM +